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vengapat · 19 February 2022, 12:49 AM

I went grey and picked up a rolex submariner date after waiting about 2 years on a waitlist with Tourneau in NYC. I frequently check the market rate of these to see if I made a decent decision going grey.

The watch is now around 18-19k.

Glad I went grey when I did. The best part was having the freedom from constantly waiting for the AD to email or call you.

If you love the watch and can afford it, go grey folks, i promise you will be happy.

source: https://davidsw.com/shop/watch/rolex...mariner-41-95/

superdog · 19 February 2022, 12:51 AM

I had to resort to gray long ago.

My AD completely forgot about me. No hard feelings tho. Just the times we are in.

I’m very content dealing with gray dealers. Market value is market value.

JasoninDenver · 19 February 2022, 01:15 AM

I have bought several from David, but will be waiting for price normalization before I pick anything else up.

101031-28 · 19 February 2022, 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by JasoninDenver

I have bought several from David, but will be waiting for price normalization before I pick anything else up.

Second this

TheVTCGuy · 19 February 2022, 04:59 AM

Congrats on your sub! I love mine

stockae92 · 19 February 2022, 06:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vengapat

I went grey and picked up a rolex submariner date after waiting about 2 years on a waitlist with Tourneau in NYC. I frequently check the market rate of these to see if I made a decent decision going grey.

The watch is now around 18-19k.

Glad I went grey when I did. The best part was having the freedom from constantly waiting for the AD to email or call you.

If you love the watch and can afford it, go grey folks, i promise you will be happy.

source: https://davidsw.com/shop/watch/rolex...mariner-41-95/

Am I the only one who thinks $19k is a lot of money for a Sub Date? Maybe cause I am just not wealthy enough ... LOL

EEpro · 19 February 2022, 06:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stockae92

Am I the only one who thinks $19k is a lot of money for a Sub Date? Maybe cause I am just not wealthy enough ... LOL

No it's not worth that. I've owned it twice and let it go because it wasn't worth $10K-11K to me when there's so many good black diver options. Great watch all around though.

saxo3 · 19 February 2022, 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by stockae92

Am I the only one who thinks $19k is a lot of money for a Sub Date?

You are right.
19k = 10k (watch) + 9k (hype)

Advantage: the good 32xx caliber is for free.
Solution: change the brand?

TheVTCGuy · 19 February 2022, 06:40 AM

So, those of you that feel it is not worth $19,000, Don't buy one. There are (quite a few) people in this world that think spending $1,900 for a watch, any watch, is ridiculous. I won't try and change their mind. Right now there are two options to most Rolex enthusiasts that want to make a purchase. One, is pay (way) over MSRP and buy one. The other, is wait and hope, that they are able to eventually buy one from an AD. Whichever choice you make, that is yours and I won't judge you for it. OP wanted one, and bought one, more power to him. How about congratulating him for obtaining a watch he wanted. No one asked if you thought it was worth what he paid, it doesn't matter if you do or not, it made sense to him and now he has a very nice watch. I congratulate you OP.

brandrea · 19 February 2022, 06:43 AM

Congratulations it’s a great reference

EEpro · 19 February 2022, 06:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheVTCGuy

So, those of you that feel it is not worth $19,000, Don't buy one. There are (quite a few) people in this world that think spending $1,900 for a watch, any watch, is ridiculous. I won't try and change their mind. Right now there are two options to most Rolex enthusiasts that want to make a purchase. One, is pay (way) over MSRP and buy one. The other, is wait and hope, that they are able to eventually buy one from an AD. Whichever choice you make, that is yours and I won't judge you for it. OP wanted one, and bought one, more power to him. How about congratulating him for obtaining a watch he wanted. No one asked if you thought it was worth what he paid, it doesn't matter if you do or not, it made sense to him and now he has a very nice watch. I congratulate you OP.

It's not an incoming.

"The watch is now around 18-19k.

Glad I went grey when I did."

OP, I'm glad you got it when you did too.

Tricolore66 · 19 February 2022, 07:09 AM

What everyone seems to be forgetting is that it's not that Rolex's are worth so much more, it's just that your money is worth so much less. And yes, $19k is a stupid amount of money for a Submariner.

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Originally Posted by stockae92

Am I the only one who thinks $19k is a lot of money for a Sub Date? Maybe cause I am just not wealthy enough ... LOL

Laszlo · 19 February 2022, 07:19 AM

As long as you're happy, that's all that matters.

Enjoy the Sub, it's the best all around watch on the market today. Even at a premium.

Soarer · 19 February 2022, 04:19 PM

Never imagined that a SS Sub would cost so much but it is what it is now.

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Andad · 19 February 2022, 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheVTCGuy

So, those of you that feel it is not worth $19,000, Don't buy one. There are (quite a few) people in this world that think spending $1,900 for a watch, any watch, is ridiculous. I won't try and change their mind. Right now there are two options to most Rolex enthusiasts that want to make a purchase. One, is pay (way) over MSRP and buy one. The other, is wait and hope, that they are able to eventually buy one from an AD. Whichever choice you make, that is yours and I won't judge you for it. OP wanted one, and bought one, more power to him. How about congratulating him for obtaining a watch he wanted. No one asked if you thought it was worth what he paid, it doesn't matter if you do or not, it made sense to him and now he has a very nice watch. I congratulate you OP.

How are those reading lessons going Paul?

TheVTCGuy · 19 February 2022, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Andad

How are those reading lessons going Paul?

Eh? I am learning Australian.

DLRIDES · 19 February 2022, 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vengapat

I went grey and picked up a rolex submariner date after waiting about 2 years on a waitlist with Tourneau in NYC. I frequently check the market rate of these to see if I made a decent decision going grey.

The watch is now around 18-19k.

Glad I went grey when I did. The best part was having the freedom from constantly waiting for the AD to email or call you.

If you love the watch and can afford it, go grey folks, i promise you will be happy.

source: https://davidsw.com/shop/watch/rolex...mariner-41-95/

You probably bought a Submariner from your dealer after all,
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with a back door transaction included.

m j b · 19 February 2022, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by TheVTCGuy

Eh? I am learning Australian.

Crikey!

At the risk of being banned, I've been saying for years that $9K for a stainless steel mass-production watch is nuts, and $20K is even nuttier.

But hey, I drive a $165K car (when it was new) and I know that most people would think that's insane. However you choose to spend your money is your own business, right?

It sounds like the OP is happy, and these days especially, that's quite important.

CKizzy · 20 February 2022, 02:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JasoninDenver

I have bought several from David, but will be waiting for price normalization before I pick anything else up.

This is normal...now ;)

Tim Plains · 20 February 2022, 02:25 AM

I think paying grey prices is ridiculous and would never do it but good for you getting what you want.

Mystro · 20 February 2022, 02:29 AM

Great score.

jaySL350 · 20 February 2022, 02:34 AM

Glad your happy OP,,,
It’s a lovely watch,,

Watchcollector123 · 20 February 2022, 02:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JasoninDenver

I have bought several from David, but will be waiting for price normalization before I pick anything else up.

Let us know when that is happening so we can all plan accordingly:-)

Bizcut1 · 20 February 2022, 02:50 AM

The great thing about buying at an AD (if you can) is the walk back to your car after purchasing the 126610 at MSRP.

Because by the time you drive away, the watch has appreciated (currently) about 98%.

As far as "price normalization" goes...good luck with that and enjoy your Omega.

Ben

scarlet knight · 20 February 2022, 02:50 AM

I bought my Sub from an AD for about $6000 about ten years ago. I walked in, asked if they had a Sub, traded a Panerai 005 for most of the cost, left with a Sub. That’s how it used to work.

rolexjackson · 20 February 2022, 02:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JasoninDenver

I have bought several from David, but will be waiting for price normalization before I pick anything else up.

I third this! The grey prices are just too absurd right now

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Calatrava r · 20 February 2022, 02:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stockae92

Am I the only one who thinks $19k is a lot of money for a Sub Date? Maybe cause I am just not wealthy enough ... LOL

I have to agree, 19K is way too much money for this watch. I would have a tough time justifying the purchase of a used watch which is not a rare out of production collectible, at such a markup.

CarlOver · 20 February 2022, 03:08 AM

The Submariner is a great watch. For many it’s not even worth 9k. I think it is. At 19K it’s a pass for me and many others.

MrMercedes · 20 February 2022, 03:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soarer

Never imagined that a SS Sub would cost so much but it is what it is now.

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100%

Bizcut1 · 20 February 2022, 03:15 AM

A year from now it will be...

"Remember when those 126610's were under $20K - now look at them, you can't touch one for under $30K!"

"Yeah, I'm gonna wait for some - cough, cough - "price normalization."

"You enjoying that Seamaster, still?"

"Um - yeah, I think so."

19 February 2022, 12:49 AM	#1
vengapat "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2020 Location: NYC Posts: 43	41mm Submariner Date - $19,000... I went grey and picked up a rolex submariner date after waiting about 2 years on a waitlist with Tourneau in NYC. I frequently check the market rate of these to see if I made a decent decision going grey. The watch is now around 18-19k. Glad I went grey when I did. The best part was having the freedom from constantly waiting for the AD to email or call you. If you love the watch and can afford it, go grey folks, i promise you will be happy. source: https://davidsw.com/shop/watch/rolex...mariner-41-95/

19 February 2022, 12:51 AM	#2
superdog 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Real Name: Seth Location: nj Watch: Omega Posts: 24,708	I had to resort to gray long ago. My AD completely forgot about me. No hard feelings tho. Just the times we are in. I’m very content dealing with gray dealers. Market value is market value. __________________ If happiness is a state of mind, why look anywhere else for it? IG: gsmotorclub IG: thesawcollection (Both mostly just car stuff)

19 February 2022, 01:15 AM	#3
JasoninDenver 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Denver Posts: 4,153	I have bought several from David, but will be waiting for price normalization before I pick anything else up. __________________ Jason 116610 LN DateJust Pelagos FXD

19 February 2022, 07:19 AM	#13
Laszlo 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: San Francisco, CA Watch: Date & No Date Posts: 10,857	As long as you're happy, that's all that matters. Enjoy the Sub, it's the best all around watch on the market today. Even at a premium. __________________ "You might as well question why we breathe. If we stop breathing, we'll die. If we stop fighting our enemies, the world will die." Paul Henreid as Victor Laszlo in Casablanca

19 February 2022, 04:19 PM	#14
Soarer "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Real Name: Albert Location: Toronto Watch: Submariner LV Posts: 1,083	Never imagined that a SS Sub would cost so much but it is what it is now. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ What you gotta do, you gotta do!

19 February 2022, 04:59 AM	#5
TheVTCGuy Banned Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: Paul Location: San Diego Watch: 126619LB Posts: 21,540	Congrats on your sub! I love mine

19 February 2022, 06:40 AM	#9
TheVTCGuy Banned Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: Paul Location: San Diego Watch: 126619LB Posts: 21,540	So, those of you that feel it is not worth $19,000, Don't buy one. There are (quite a few) people in this world that think spending $1,900 for a watch, any watch, is ridiculous. I won't try and change their mind. Right now there are two options to most Rolex enthusiasts that want to make a purchase. One, is pay (way) over MSRP and buy one. The other, is wait and hope, that they are able to eventually buy one from an AD. Whichever choice you make, that is yours and I won't judge you for it. OP wanted one, and bought one, more power to him. How about congratulating him for obtaining a watch he wanted. No one asked if you thought it was worth what he paid, it doesn't matter if you do or not, it made sense to him and now he has a very nice watch. I congratulate you OP.

19 February 2022, 06:43 AM	#10
brandrea 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Brian (TBone) Location: canada Watch: es make me smile Posts: 74,287	Congratulations it’s a great reference

20 February 2022, 02:25 AM	#20
Tim Plains "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2021 Real Name: It's not Tim Location: EST Watch: 126610LN Posts: 1,110	I think paying grey prices is ridiculous and would never do it but good for you getting what you want.

20 February 2022, 02:29 AM	#21
Mystro 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: The Mystro ;) Location: Central Pa. Posts: 14,824	Great score. __________________

20 February 2022, 02:34 AM	#22
jaySL350 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Real Name: jay Location: North London Watch: BBG,Hulk,16013,DJB Posts: 3,278	Glad your happy OP,,, It’s a lovely watch,,

20 February 2022, 02:50 AM	#24
Bizcut1 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Real Name: Ben Location: Valley of the Sun Watch: 126331 126610 3861 Posts: 3,235	The great thing about buying at an AD (if you can) is the walk back to your car after purchasing the 126610 at MSRP. Because by the time you drive away, the watch has appreciated (currently) about 98%. As far as "price normalization" goes...good luck with that and enjoy your Omega. Ben

20 February 2022, 02:50 AM	#25
scarlet knight "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: USA Watch: Good ones Posts: 8,199	I bought my Sub from an AD for about $6000 about ten years ago. I walked in, asked if they had a Sub, traded a Panerai 005 for most of the cost, left with a Sub. That’s how it used to work.

20 February 2022, 03:08 AM	#28
CarlOver "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2021 Location: US Posts: 1,947	The Submariner is a great watch. For many it’s not even worth 9k. I think it is. At 19K it’s a pass for me and many others.

20 February 2022, 03:15 AM	#30
Bizcut1 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Real Name: Ben Location: Valley of the Sun Watch: 126331 126610 3861 Posts: 3,235	A year from now it will be... "Remember when those 126610's were under $20K - now look at them, you can't touch one for under $30K!" "Yeah, I'm gonna wait for some - cough, cough - "price normalization." "You enjoying that Seamaster, still?" "Um - yeah, I think so."

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