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Old 22 October 2013, 05:01 AM   #1
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Which is "the" Speedy to get and why!?

Hey all,

I'm considering getting my first speedy and I can't decide what to get... 321, 861... the newest (whats it called? a 3057.50)?

Please let me know your thoughts. What is the speedmaster to buy and why?

Thanks!!
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Old 22 October 2013, 06:30 AM   #2
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If you want something new and as close as possible to the "Moon Watch" then you want the 3570.50. Hesalite crystal with solid back, cal.1861.

For me, now, I have the 3573.50. I like the durability of the sapphire crystal and the exhibition back is a bonus. I have been through several Speedies and have settled on this.

You can't go wrong with any Speedy, really.
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Old 22 October 2013, 07:30 AM   #3
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I love the 105.012 and 145.012, worn to the moon by Armstrong and Aldrin, respectively. But there are too many great references to call one definitive imho.

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Old 22 October 2013, 07:50 AM   #4
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I'm not sure if you are looking for new or would opt for a used vintage piece. I have to say I'm a huge fan of the Transitional Speedmasters from 1968-1969. They are not to hard to come by with some patience.

You get the beauty of the older 321 dial with raised logo, stepped dial, long markers, and ringed sub dials with the newer 861 movement. The 861 came after the 321 and is cheaper to service and the parts are not as scarce as the 321's since the 861 is basically the same movement and the current Speedmasters.

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Old 22 October 2013, 01:39 PM   #5
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I've grown found of the sapphire sandwich. The manual movement is too beautiful to keep hidden IMHO.

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Old 23 October 2013, 02:01 AM   #6
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Thanks for your great info everyone! I didn't know there was so much variation within the speedy line!
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Old 23 October 2013, 02:01 AM   #7
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I'm not sure if you are looking for new or would opt for a used vintage piece. I have to say I'm a huge fan of the Transitional Speedmasters from 1968-1969. They are not to hard to come by with some patience.

You get the beauty of the older 321 dial with raised logo, stepped dial, long markers, and ringed sub dials with the newer 861 movement. The 861 came after the 321 and is cheaper to service and the parts are not as scarce as the 321's since the 861 is basically the same movement and the current Speedmasters.

This one is gorgeous! What should one expect to spend on one of these? What is transitional about it? Just the movement with the dial combo? What is the reference number? Just 861? That is a gorgeous version!
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Old 23 October 2013, 03:19 AM   #8
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I'm getting a chocolate sapphire!!
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Old 23 October 2013, 12:03 PM   #9
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I'm getting a chocolate sapphire!!
SEND pics! :)
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Old 24 October 2013, 03:20 AM   #10
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Should be shipped today, will post pic as soon as in hand!
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Old 25 October 2013, 08:16 AM   #11
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The 3570.50 is my pick.
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Old 25 October 2013, 11:55 AM   #12
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Without any shadow of a Doubt...

Speedmaster Moonwatch with aventurine Dial...

Lemania Movement...Display Back, Aventurine dial....I went to look at the Darkside of the Moon...and was blown away by this one...

A premium Price...But worth every penny...

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Old 25 October 2013, 02:07 PM   #13
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SEND pics! :)
Let's do this! Arrived today!! Sorry for the iphone pics
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Old 25 October 2013, 10:27 PM   #14
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hey congrats Wing!
great pickup...love the choc!
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Old 28 October 2013, 02:15 AM   #15
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Let's do this! Arrived today!! Sorry for the iphone pics
Looks beautiful! Gotta lot that chocolate dial!
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Old 28 October 2013, 02:59 AM   #16
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Yeah amazing color on the chocolate dial!
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Old 28 October 2013, 03:27 AM   #17
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Congrats! Combination of the chocolate dial and exhibition case back... Perfect, IMHO :thumbup:
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Old 28 October 2013, 11:34 PM   #18
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I'm not sure if you are looking for new or would opt for a used vintage piece. I have to say I'm a huge fan of the Transitional Speedmasters from 1968-1969. They are not to hard to come by with some patience.

You get the beauty of the older 321 dial with raised logo, stepped dial, long markers, and ringed sub dials with the newer 861 movement. The 861 came after the 321 and is cheaper to service and the parts are not as scarce as the 321's since the 861 is basically the same movement and the current Speedmasters.

Perfect. That's what I am looking for! Still hunting!
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Old 29 October 2013, 12:55 AM   #19
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without a doubt the 321 Speedy
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Old 29 October 2013, 06:47 AM   #20
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all great little chronos! 861 much better as to parts and service. But I like my 2998 best. M
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Old 29 October 2013, 09:15 PM   #21
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When I decided to add a Speedmaster to my collection I settled on the 3570.50 and have no regrets. It is a great watch with so much history. You just can't go wrong with that watch, IMHO. Cheers, Bill P.
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Old 30 October 2013, 02:04 AM   #22
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Old 31 October 2013, 12:10 AM   #23
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I would personally stay away from anything not Speedmaster Professional, e.g. Reduced, Date, Day Date, Moon Phase....etc
But that is just my very personal opinion
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Old 31 October 2013, 12:03 PM   #24
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i would personally stay away from anything not speedmaster professional, e.g. Reduced, date, day date, moon phase....etc
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hear hear!
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Old 2 November 2013, 02:14 AM   #25
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I agree...the sapphire sandwich with manual movement will probably be my choice when I'm ready. I do like the chocolate as well...
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