I don't understand why the rest of the United States doesn't allow lane splitting...

[Phrank]

Originally Posted by subtona

We all die.

Most in far more boring and sad ways.

Yea, just like my Grandfather, peacefully in his sleep, unlike the screaming passengers in his car.....

[Johny]

Originally Posted by Phrank

Yea, just like my Grandfather, peacefully in his sleep, unlike the screaming passengers in his car.....

[SDRider]

Originally Posted by Abdullah71601

A motorcycle lobbyist agrees with you.

The study was done by U.C. Berkeley... not Cycle World.

[yhzdude]

ok don t take this personally but i find in North America, and surely in Canada...people don't really know how to drive, and they don't share the road, with cyclists and motorcyclists .I am not sure if they are not thought how to drive properly, but they don't give space when they pass, the don't understand round about..etc.
if you compare it to Europe it s a different story, in Europe, drivers respect motorcyclist, and cyclist, i think the main reason is that 50% of the drivers ride bikes and bicycles.
i ride both a bicycle and a bike here in Canada, and i would never lane split, because people here have no clue how to drive. when they pass a cyclist they would rather hit a cyclist and kill him than cross a double yellow lane, or just slow down and wait behind until they can pass. Anyway, it s scary...people here just drive large cars, like they drive a tank, on large highway...and even when they are slow they just drive in the fast lane and sit there..as a perfect example. you flash your beams for them to move and they don't have a clue. in Europe you would get a fine ..anyway other topic..but all related.
i would not lane split in Canada...like said above...people would kill you. where i live about 20 % of the people use their blinkers... be safe.
sorry but this is what i observed.

[subtona]

Originally Posted by yhzdude

ok don t take this personally but i find in North America, and surely in Canada...people don't really know how to drive, and they don't share the road, with cyclists and motorcyclists .I am not sure if they are not thought how to drive properly, but they don't give space when they pass, the don't understand round about..etc.
if you compare it to Europe it s a different story, in Europe, drivers respect motorcyclist, and cyclist, i think the main reason is that 50% of the drivers ride bikes and bicycles.
i ride both a bicycle and a bike here in Canada, and i would never lane split, because people here have no clue how to drive. when they pass a cyclist they would rather hit a cyclist and kill him than cross a double yellow lane, or just slow down and wait behind until they can pass. Anyway, it s scary...people here just drive large cars, like they drive a tank, on large highway...and even when they are slow they just drive in the fast lane and sit there..as a perfect example. you flash your beams for them to move and they don't have a clue. in Europe you would get a fine ..anyway other topic..but all related.
i would not lane split in Canada...like said above...people would kill you. where i live about 20 % of the people use their blinkers... be safe.
sorry but this is what i observed.

Driving across America I have learned that folks in and near cities tend to be less aware/concerned of road rules then folks that live more rurally and use freeways at speed more frequently.

Others ability to drive is secondary to the motorcyclists ability/responsibility to anticipate the other drivers intentions. If you have successfully ridden for a while then you must have some of this defensive driving ability?

As a matter of evolution our ability to predict other drivers bad driving becomes second nature...lane splitting becomes little different from a strategy perspective, if a driver expects you or not is nearly irrelevant because I anticipate drivers not expecting me 100% of the time.

My philosophy for riding is that if I am involved in an accident then I did not fulfill my obligation to pay attention. With extremely rare exception, the motorcyclist should have seen it coming.

Then again...sometimes sh@t just happens and at those times I consider it other forces at work.

[Runnin' Rebel]

Originally Posted by directioneng

You should listen to this guy Gus.

He and his friends are the experts in all subjects on TRF and they will bury you with 'facts'.

Agree and unbelievable Eddie. Need a shower after this thread

[Andad]

Originally Posted by Johny

Looking good Eddie. Hot and sunny here today....too hot for me. Bikes in the shed and i'm in the shade.

I thought it would still be quite cool up there at this time.

It was 20C here in SA but getting cooler from now.

[ReMember]

So you expect/want every state to be liberal like California?

[Andad]

To clarify our rules and to understand the safety issues in South Australia

Motorcycle riders must not lane filter:

at a speed greater than 30km/h
if it is not safe to do so
in a school zone or across pedestrian and children's crossings
in special purpose lanes (such as bike lanes and bus lanes)
in bike boxes
next to parked cars or between vehicles and the kerb, or on roundabouts

All looks straightforward to me.

[BrazenC5]

Originally Posted by CRM114

I'd like to know why if I'm stuck in traffic in my Jeep and the shoulder, paved or unpaved, is sitting there unused and clear, why can't I just jump over there and speed ahead?

It saves lives because if I'm driving on the shoulder I won't be a sitting duck for a semi or concrete truck to squish me from behind, plus I'm helping the traffic flow freely.

We Jeep drivers should be able to do this since our Jeeps are fully capable of executing this maneuver.

Flawed logic. Intention of the shoulder is for breakdown vehicles to move out of the flow of traffic or active emergency vehicles to bypass traffic congestion, etc. Nothing to do with a vehicle's ability to use the shoulder paved/unpaved...but you knew that.

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[Johny]

Originally Posted by directioneng

I thought it would still be quite cool up there at this time.

It was 20C here in SA but getting cooler from now.

Hi Eddie

We are in the middle of the usual 3 day per year heatwave...lol.

[Art 1]

I have many times seen lane spitters on I-4 going well over 100mph. I don't really care if they get killed, I just don't want to see tax dollars used to pay for their hospital stay and related costs. A friend of mine was killed by one, so was the biker. I think a lane splitter who is caught going over the speed limit should loose all driving privileges for life.

[Maybelline]

Everything California does is ass backwards.

[Art 1]

Originally Posted by Maybelline

Everything California does is ass backwards.

Much of it. I'm very happy to not live there, don't even want to vacation there.

[Maybelline]

Originally Posted by Art 1

Much of it. I'm very happy to not live there, don't even want to vacation there.

I refuse to spend money and have tax dollars go to them. They are from another planet.

[Rrpdc]

Lane splitting is just really dangerous. Cars do not see bikers and even more danger zipping Thru traffic and cars. If too much of a hassle to stop and go in traffic on bike then either don’t ride cycle in rush hour or start driving a car.

[Syed117]

I'd be happy if people in America realized that the left lane doesn't exist for them to cruise in.

[bdex75]

Originally Posted by Syed117

I'd be happy if people in America realized that the left lane doesn't exist for them to cruise in.

No doubt. In Indiana the state police often post on twittter the left lane violations and when they ticket people for them.


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[Blansky]

Originally Posted by Maybelline

I refuse to spend money and have tax dollars go to them. They are from another planet.

I believe California now has the 5th largest economy in the world.

We'll soldier on somehow.

[Syed117]

Originally Posted by bdex75

No doubt. In Indiana the state police often post on twittter the left lane violations and when they ticket people for them.


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I was on the highway last night. I believe the limit was 65 and this one guy was driving about 5-10 below and refused to move.

Nothing on the road makes me angrier.

[imperio]

Originally Posted by Maybelline

I refuse to spend money and have tax dollars go to them. They are from another planet.

You refuse to spend money. Really.

[uscmatt99]

Originally Posted by bdex75

No doubt. In Indiana the state police often post on twittter the left lane violations and when they ticket people for them.


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Do you have their address so I can send them a thank you card and some cookies? Left lane hogs are the root of all evil.

I don't have a problem with lane-splitting in stop and go traffic. Weaving through cars at normal highway speeds is asking for it though.

[GB-man]

This thread is unfortunately loaded with people who did not read the entire thread or they would know the acceptable definition of lane splitting.

This does not include jack offs on the beltway doing 110 mph between lanes of traffic folks. We are talking about low speed maneuvering through bumper to bumper traffics jams for the most part.

Last but not least there’s no need to blanket harass the state of California. I doubt they are offended seeing as they have more to brag about than virtually any other state in the nation.

[BrazenC5]

Originally Posted by GB-man

This thread is unfortunately loaded with people who did not read the entire thread or they would know the acceptable definition of lane splitting.

This does not include jack offs on the beltway doing 110 mph between lanes of traffic folks. We are talking about low speed maneuvering through bumper to bumper traffics jams for the most part.

Last but not least there’s no need to blanket harass the state of California. I doubt they are offended seeing as they have more to brag about than virtually any other state in the nation.

Haters gonna hate 🤣. This thread needs a Rolex in it. Will continue to enjoy west coast sunsets...and lane splitting (to stay on point)!20953.jpeg

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[SDRider]

Originally Posted by BrazenC5

Haters gonna hate ��. This thread needs a Rolex in it. Will continue to enjoy west coast sunsets...and lane splitting (to stay on point)!Attachment 951086

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Is that Redondo Beach? I used to live near there. My wife grew up in Torrance.

Love the watch!

I rode to work this morning but didn't really need to do much lane splitting. Just a couple times at traffic lights between stopped cars. Completely safe to do, no danger at all.

[BrazenC5]

Originally Posted by SDRider

Is that Redondo Beach? I used to live near there. My wife grew up in Torrance.

Love the watch!

I rode to work this morning but didn't really need to do much lane splitting. Just a couple times at traffic lights between stopped cars. Completely safe to do, no danger at all.

It is! Good eye, I grew up in Torrance as well.

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[SDRider]

Originally Posted by BrazenC5

It is! Good eye, I grew up in Torrance as well.

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My FIL lives in the Hollywood Riviera area of Torrance. He has a great view from his living room of the entire south bay and on a clear day you can even see the Hollywood sign. My wife's brother lives in Redondo Beach with his wife. They are just off Prospect.

We go up there probably once a month or so. I know that area well.

Mods, you can lock this thread up. I think it has been beaten to death and it is clear that nobody is going to change their minds anyway.

[yhzdude]

Originally Posted by Syed117

I was on the highway last night. I believe the limit was 65 and this one guy was driving about 5-10 below and refused to move.

Nothing on the road makes me angrier.

drives me nuts too.
they take a lane and sit there...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wELQtrLIMDc

[Abdullah71601]

Originally Posted by Syed117

I was on the highway last night. I believe the limit was 65 and this one guy was driving about 5-10 below and refused to move.

Nothing on the road makes me angrier.

Driving slow in the hammer lane and refusing to give way. It's illegal in Arkansas, but they never enforce it. Makes a guy want to install rocket launchers in the grill.

[CRM114]

Originally Posted by Abdullah71601

Why can't I land my airplane on the street and taxi home? Airports are just so inconvenient, and the airspace above them is so crowded. Wouldn't it make sense for me to be able to land anywhere I want and taxi up into my yard?

It does make perfect sense, and you should absolutely be able to do that. Airports are indeed accidents waiting to happen with all that traffic overhead plus aircraft jammed up on taxiways, stop-and-go, stop-and-go taxiing. Someone could slam into you from behind. Best to avoid it completely. Yard-Direct-Yard routing should not merely be allowed, in the interest of everyone's safety it should be mandatory, left to each pilot's discretion to pick the best spots.

Besides, flying is all about 3 dimentional freedom and cruising around in the sky looking at scenery. Rules, regulations, and limitation contstraints are obviously written by people who just don't get it.