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Old 22 October 2017, 06:28 AM   #1
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According to Apple, its smartwatch series has proved so popular that it has overtaken Rolex to become the world's most popular wristwear maker.

Thats a few pound of Apples in a very short time can this be true ? or is the apple watch a supplementary devise
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Old 22 October 2017, 06:31 AM   #2
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there was a few thread discussion about this a couple of months ago.
Can't compare apple to orange.
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Old 22 October 2017, 06:31 AM   #3
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Someone can turn stats almost in any direction they want...what's defined as popular? What demographic, what time period, etc., etc.
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Old 22 October 2017, 06:32 AM   #4
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there was a few thread discussion about this a couple of months ago.
Can't compare apple to orange.
Big game tonight...
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Old 22 October 2017, 06:33 AM   #5
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Yes, it is. I've been pysched about it since Thursday. hope we win.
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Old 22 October 2017, 06:39 AM   #6
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According to Apple, its smartwatch series has proved so popular that it has overtaken Rolex to become the world's most popular wristwear maker.

Thats a few pound of Apples in a very short time can this be true ? or is the apple watch a supplementary devise
What's so hard to believe? Apple sells them by the millions per quarter and Rolex likely sells less than a million per yr.
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Old 22 October 2017, 06:48 AM   #7
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Imho they sell more VW Bugs than Ferrari’s but do I really think it’s because it’s “better”


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Old 22 October 2017, 06:51 AM   #8
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Apple Watch the cost can't even pay for the tax for a R
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Old 22 October 2017, 07:07 AM   #9
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I had a popular girlfriend but she's not my Wife lol. I'm surprised Apple would make a statement like that and mention Rolex i cannot see the gain ? i doubt Apple will stand the test of time and become just another rung on the tech ladder.
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Old 22 October 2017, 07:28 AM   #10
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Here's my comment from another topic about this.

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Apple doesn't sell watches because an Apple watch is nothing more than a wristsize computer with some apps IMO.
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Old 22 October 2017, 07:42 AM   #11
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Yes, you can compare anything like for example trains and greyhound buses. And you can also get statisticsof that in favour of any opinion. Apple makes wrist computers, Rolex makes watches.
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Old 22 October 2017, 07:49 AM   #12
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discussed before but one is a luxury product and one is not. Apple watch is priced specifically to be disposable when the next model comes out and replaces it.

Hardly a fair comparison.

When we start throwing our Rolex's in the bin after every new Basel release then we can say we are comparing equal products. "look a ceramic daytona, i guess i can throw the steel bezel one away now" Sounds weird doesn't it.
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Old 22 October 2017, 08:00 AM   #13
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When Apple outsell Rolex at the Ł5k level then that is news.
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Old 22 October 2017, 08:06 AM   #14
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According to Apple, its smartwatch series has proved so popular that it has overtaken Rolex to become the world's most popular wristwear maker.

Thats a few pound of Apples in a very short time can this be true ? or is the apple watch a supplementary devise
there's nothing wrong with apple trumpeting this statement. if rolex were a public company, i'm sure they could open their vault to motivate good news stories for the market too.

but, mcdonalds could also do this. they have a happy meal with a watch included sometimes, and they could say they sell more watches to kids in a month than anyone else in the world.

(don't ask how i know )

all apple is doing is pumping their stock.
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Old 22 October 2017, 11:16 AM   #15
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Ugh...not the Apple watch again.
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Old 22 October 2017, 01:49 PM   #16
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I LoL when I read this
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Old 22 October 2017, 01:56 PM   #17
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Apple comment

May well be true, however all I know is that someone wearing an apple watch next to me in a convenience store could wave his wrist at the pay point and walk away with a pint of milk and newspaper. I could however try the same with my BLNR and probably walk away with most of the shops stock, minus the watch of course :)


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Old 22 October 2017, 03:10 PM   #18
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Actually I thought that would be Swatch or Timex, not Apple.
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Old 22 October 2017, 05:23 PM   #19
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I really don’t get it. I find my iPhone borderline tolerable (though I’m swearing at it a lot asI try to type this) because it’s occaionally more useful than it is annoying, but I do not see the point of an Apple Watch. I cannot figure out what value it brings to users.
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Old 22 October 2017, 05:39 PM   #20
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wearing an Apple watch makes a powerful statement: At one point in time, I had access to 400 dollars
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Old 22 October 2017, 05:52 PM   #21
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wearing an Apple watch makes a powerful statement: At one point in time, I had access to 400 dollars


The definitive comparison between the two brands in one sentence

I just laughed so hard i spilled my coffee. If i was wearing an apple watch the touch screen would be all messed up.
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Old 22 October 2017, 06:31 PM   #22
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I have the feeling it’s like comparing a bicycle with a Harley to be honest, or a bicycle and a Ferrari for those not into bikes, but a bicycle with a limited 2-3 year lifespan...
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Old 22 October 2017, 06:41 PM   #23
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The definitive comparison between the two brands in one sentence

I just laughed so hard i spilled my coffee. If i was wearing an apple watch the touch screen would be all messed up.
Sadly, due to the magic of consumer credit, I can't say for sure whether they actually had 400 dollars in their possession
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Old 23 October 2017, 04:49 AM   #24
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wearing an Apple watch makes a powerful statement: At one point in time, I had access to 400 dollars
Unnecessary gadgets. All these Apple watch wearers always have a much more capable iphone with them. This is the case with every single one I've ever seen. Gadget's for gadget's sake. No thanks.
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Old 23 October 2017, 05:02 AM   #25
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Unnecessary gadgets. All these Apple watch wearers always have a much more capable iphone with them. This is the case with every single one I've ever seen. Gadget's for gadget's sake. No thanks.
your watch should never cost 2.5X less than your phone... just saying
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The watch is a bigger outlay because the phone cost is baked into the monthly service bill. Most iphone users never plunked down $800 for their phone
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Old 23 October 2017, 02:56 PM   #27
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The watch is a bigger outlay because the phone cost is baked into the monthly service bill. Most iphone users never plunked down $800 for their phone
that is changing in the US as far as i can tell. I know in the UK its full pop as they don't subsidize the phone. Im about to pre order the iPhoneX

But, monthly service is much cheaper.
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that is changing in the US as far as i can tell. I know in the UK its full pop as they don't subsidize the phone. Im about to pre order the iPhoneX

But, monthly service is much cheaper.
That could be good for the Korean firms with more non-premium options
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Old 24 October 2017, 01:19 PM   #29
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When cellphone first came out McKinsey Consulting (where a bunch of very smart people supposedly work at) concluded it's not something people need and will never take off.

Look how far the cellphone have came from a bulky talk only device to nowadays. It's easy to knock on AW today and say it's useless, and I agree, with today's functions, it's nothing to write home about, but you don't know what it can do 10 or 20 years down the line. Yeah it could flame out but then again it's also possible that eventually all the naysayers will have one, doesn't hurt to keep an open mind.
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When cellphone first came out McKinsey Consulting (where a bunch of very smart people supposedly work at) concluded it's not something people need and will never take off.

Look how far the cellphone have came from a bulky talk only device to nowadays. It's easy to knock on AW today and say it's useless, and I agree, with today's functions, it's nothing to write home about, but you don't know what it can do 10 or 20 years down the line. Yeah it could flame out but then again it's also possible that eventually all the naysayers will have one, doesn't hurt to keep an open mind.
i actually agree with the sentiments here. I am fine with the apple watch i just don't think its a luxury product.

The other thing is cellphones started as a luxury good as they cost around $4,000 when they first came out (adjusted for inflation that is around $10,000 in today's money) and moved mainstream as prices went down. The apple watch on the other hand started out mainstream already, and isn't going to evolve into a luxury good. Technology price curves generally move downward over time while luxury goods do not.
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