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Sloyo · 2 March 2016, 04:51 AM

Hi everybody,

this is my first post here in this forum. To quickly introduce myself, I finished my PhD two years ago and now work in a Biotech company. Over the last 15 years, I alway wore a Festina Quarz watch, but now I am looking for an automatic watch. It should be versatile and should fit to a suit, but also to less formal clothes. A watch that I can wear every day. Initially, I was looking for an Omega Seamaster Aqua Terra (blue dial, 2500 movement), but changed my opinion and started now to look for the Rolex Explorer 1 series.

I was thinking about either the 114270 (cheaper, easier to obtain, better movement, better glass) or the 1016 (looks better in my opinion, classic model).

Today, I visited a jeweler close-by who currently has a 1016 available. The model is from 1985/86. Unfortunately, no papers are available. The dial is original, but the hands were changed and are a little bit brighter than the dial. Is this something that will blend in over time, or will it stay like this?

The shop is asking for 5900 Euro (around 6400 USD). Is the price ok, or is it too expensive regarding the missing papers and the changed hands?

I would appreciate your help a lot! Please find below some pictures.

jdog111578 · 2 March 2016, 05:08 AM

The hands appear luminova (Any direct shots in better light would help) and won't blend to match the lume on the dial. You could always get the watch and try and source a set of hands down the road but you're going to pay a premium and may not get an exact match. Case seems to be ok. Certainly had a couple polishes. The bracelet is ok but has the wrong end links which is why there is poor fitment. Price is ok but certainly does reflect the lack of B&P and the other small issues. Im sure others while chime in soon.

droptopman · 2 March 2016, 08:12 AM

No pics?

nobbylon · 2 March 2016, 03:32 PM

The lugs look all wrong to me. Over polished, too thin and wrong shaping.

Nobody.Move · 2 March 2016, 06:07 PM

I'd pass on this one. Too many things would irk me every time I looked at it (subtle things, but issues nonetheless). Truthfully I'd opt for a 114270 with box and papers for about $1400 USD less than this dodgy 1016 is selling for. Sure it's not vintage, but the 114270 is a killer watch.

Sloyo · 3 March 2016, 05:41 AM

Thanks everybody, this was of great help! Too bad, but I will pass on this one as suggested

Michael M. · 3 March 2016, 07:50 AM

Case is fine, it's the dial I'd be worried about. Looks refinished based on the pictures provided.

Sloyo · 5 March 2016, 07:13 AM

Here is the link to the seller in case somebody else should be interested:
http://www.allaboutwatches.de/Uhr/2917

Sloyo · 28 March 2016, 07:42 PM

Hi everybody, thanks again for all your help! I decided to go for an 114270 instead (Z series from 2006). I bought it from a private seller, hopefully everything is fine with the watch, but I will have it checked next week. Attached below are a few pics. Thanks again!

roll9 · 29 March 2016, 05:21 PM

I think you will really end up getting a lot of use out of your new 114270. I purchased mine around 4 years ago and honestly it gets more wrist time than my other two watches.
Im not a small fellow but even so I love the size. Looks great and super comfortable as well. I also believe it tends to stand out because most folks are wearing chunkier watches currently.

Love · 29 March 2016, 05:48 PM

Gorgeous!

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Richard Carver · 30 March 2016, 01:30 AM

Well done, welcome to the long slippery slope of Rolex ownership. One is never enough! :)

Nobody.Move · 31 March 2016, 06:48 PM

Very wise decision. Bravo, and enjoy!

polarinda · 31 March 2016, 08:14 PM

congrats.

Ckci · 6 April 2016, 11:55 PM

Nice one! Congrats.

bradbyrd1110 · 12 April 2016, 09:00 PM

Nice one, congrats!

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Rebel · 12 April 2016, 09:38 PM

Good choice.

franklin · 17 April 2016, 12:06 AM

Awesome. Great choice.

franklin · 17 April 2016, 12:08 AM

Here is mine

speedolex · 17 April 2016, 09:27 AM

Since this is a thread about the 1016 I thought it would be nice if there was an actual 1016 in it.

The current Explorer is a great watch, but it's very dressy with its glistening white gold dial. For the ultimate Rolex tool watch, there is the matte dial 1016 and not much else.

ADINVA · 17 April 2016, 01:10 PM

This is a great watch. I love the simplicity.

visualplane · 7 November 2016, 06:35 AM

I've been wanting a 1016 for a while but i'm not sure if this one is fake? Price seems too good to be true:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rolex-Oyster...MAAOSwYIxX8qa4

zapokee · 7 November 2016, 10:10 AM

Great decision, Doctor!

Toronto Soup King · 8 November 2016, 02:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by visualplane

I've been wanting a 1016 for a while but i'm not sure if this one is fake? Price seems too good to be true:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rolex-Oyster...MAAOSwYIxX8qa4

That's not a 1016, that's a 5500, which is to some a more desirable watch. Issue with this one is the pics are so small and bad you can hardly see the dial/case condition - I would definitely pass on something I can't examine prior to plunking my money down.

visualplane · 8 November 2016, 02:52 AM

Bummer, it's also 34mm instead of 36mm which is the size I prefer.

visualplane · 10 November 2016, 01:29 AM

Is it normal for the springbars to be sticking out like this?:

http://forums.timezone.com/index.php...=0#msg_7350842

rillesnille · 10 November 2016, 02:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by visualplane

Is it normal for the springbars to be sticking out like this?:

http://forums.timezone.com/index.php...=0#msg_7350842

Its common but not desirable, often due to overpolishing or wrong springbars...

RHJ · 10 November 2016, 02:42 AM

Welcome at the Explorer community! Great Model in all its versions

elbandito57 · 10 November 2016, 03:49 AM

Hi all,

Have been keeping an eye on this forum for the last 12 months after getting sucked into the Rolex world. I thought 1 would be enough but here I am on the brink of buying another!

Today I went to see an R Series 1016 from 1989, the last in the 1016 production run. I'm looking for a clean example so i've been holding off until I see something that fits with what i'm looking for. It's a bit expensive and their are much cheaper available from the 70's but anything in pristine condition seems to command a higher price. I'm no expert so if there is anyone that can give their opinion on what they see it would be much appreciated! Sorry I only took only these 2 pics. The plastic is slightly marked but was told that is would polish out easily? Thanks in advance

dysondiver · 10 November 2016, 04:07 AM

the 11explorer is a fine understated do everything watch ,,, mine has become my daily wear , and i love its size ,,, health to wear ,
right choice on that 1016 ,,, the faults would just bug you every day ,,,, well they would bug me.

2 March 2016, 04:51 AM	#1
Sloyo "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Germany Posts: 4	Need advice: Rolex Explorer 1016 Hi everybody, this is my first post here in this forum. To quickly introduce myself, I finished my PhD two years ago and now work in a Biotech company. Over the last 15 years, I alway wore a Festina Quarz watch, but now I am looking for an automatic watch. It should be versatile and should fit to a suit, but also to less formal clothes. A watch that I can wear every day. Initially, I was looking for an Omega Seamaster Aqua Terra (blue dial, 2500 movement), but changed my opinion and started now to look for the Rolex Explorer 1 series. I was thinking about either the 114270 (cheaper, easier to obtain, better movement, better glass) or the 1016 (looks better in my opinion, classic model). Today, I visited a jeweler close-by who currently has a 1016 available. The model is from 1985/86. Unfortunately, no papers are available. The dial is original, but the hands were changed and are a little bit brighter than the dial. Is this something that will blend in over time, or will it stay like this? The shop is asking for 5900 Euro (around 6400 USD). Is the price ok, or is it too expensive regarding the missing papers and the changed hands? I would appreciate your help a lot! Please find below some pictures.

12 April 2016, 09:00 PM	#16
bradbyrd1110 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: 1110 Location: East Coast Watch: 126233 Posts: 318	Nice one, congrats! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ 16600, 126233

12 April 2016, 09:38 PM	#17
Rebel "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: Dr Mark R Nail Location: New Albany Watch: Tudor Sub 75090 Posts: 8,057	Good choice. __________________ ------------------------------- Member of the Nylon Nation

10 November 2016, 02:42 AM	#28
RHJ 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: here Watch: 214270 Mk1 Posts: 920	Welcome at the Explorer community! Great Model in all its versions __________________ here to learn

2 March 2016, 05:08 AM	#2
jdog111578 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Real Name: Jason Location: Connecticut Watch: Tudor 7016, 94010 Posts: 256	The hands appear luminova (Any direct shots in better light would help) and won't blend to match the lume on the dial. You could always get the watch and try and source a set of hands down the road but you're going to pay a premium and may not get an exact match. Case seems to be ok. Certainly had a couple polishes. The bracelet is ok but has the wrong end links which is why there is poor fitment. Price is ok but certainly does reflect the lack of B&P and the other small issues. Im sure others while chime in soon.

2 March 2016, 08:12 AM	#3
droptopman "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Real Name: Mark Location: Washington State Watch: SUBS and GMT's! Posts: 9,664	No pics?

2 March 2016, 03:32 PM	#4
nobbylon Banned Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Nederlands Watch: DSSD Posts: 365	The lugs look all wrong to me. Over polished, too thin and wrong shaping.

2 March 2016, 06:07 PM	#5
Nobody.Move "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 266	I'd pass on this one. Too many things would irk me every time I looked at it (subtle things, but issues nonetheless). Truthfully I'd opt for a 114270 with box and papers for about $1400 USD less than this dodgy 1016 is selling for. Sure it's not vintage, but the 114270 is a killer watch.

3 March 2016, 05:41 AM	#6
Sloyo "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Germany Posts: 4	Thanks everybody, this was of great help! Too bad, but I will pass on this one as suggested

3 March 2016, 07:50 AM	#7
Michael M. Banned Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Newport Beach, CA Posts: 8,391	Case is fine, it's the dial I'd be worried about. Looks refinished based on the pictures provided.

5 March 2016, 07:13 AM	#8
Sloyo "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Germany Posts: 4	Here is the link to the seller in case somebody else should be interested: http://www.allaboutwatches.de/Uhr/2917

28 March 2016, 07:42 PM	#9
Sloyo "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Germany Posts: 4	Hi everybody, thanks again for all your help! I decided to go for an 114270 instead (Z series from 2006). I bought it from a private seller, hopefully everything is fine with the watch, but I will have it checked next week. Attached below are a few pics. Thanks again!

29 March 2016, 05:21 PM	#10
roll9 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Real Name: Dan Location: California Watch: 1016 & 16700 Posts: 368	I think you will really end up getting a lot of use out of your new 114270. I purchased mine around 4 years ago and honestly it gets more wrist time than my other two watches. Im not a small fellow but even so I love the size. Looks great and super comfortable as well. I also believe it tends to stand out because most folks are wearing chunkier watches currently.

29 March 2016, 05:48 PM	#11
Love Banned Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Sarasota Posts: 188	Gorgeous! Sent from my 5054N using Tapatalk

30 March 2016, 01:30 AM	#12
Richard Carver "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: US Posts: 2,237	Well done, welcome to the long slippery slope of Rolex ownership. One is never enough! :)

31 March 2016, 06:48 PM	#13
Nobody.Move "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 266	Very wise decision. Bravo, and enjoy!

31 March 2016, 08:14 PM	#14
polarinda "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Real Name: Trav Location: singapore Watch: it Posts: 2,312	congrats.

6 April 2016, 11:55 PM	#15
Ckci "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2015 Real Name: Russell Location: KC, MO Watch: FedEx 4 next 1 Posts: 2,244	Nice one! Congrats.

17 April 2016, 12:06 AM	#18
franklin "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Manitoba Posts: 586	Awesome. Great choice.

17 April 2016, 09:27 AM	#20
speedolex Banned Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: NYC Posts: 1,231	Since this is a thread about the 1016 I thought it would be nice if there was an actual 1016 in it. The current Explorer is a great watch, but it's very dressy with its glistening white gold dial. For the ultimate Rolex tool watch, there is the matte dial 1016 and not much else.

17 April 2016, 01:10 PM	#21
ADINVA "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Hong Kong Watch: Daytona Posts: 716	This is a great watch. I love the simplicity.

7 November 2016, 06:35 AM	#22
visualplane "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: New York, NY Watch: 5513 Posts: 1,169	I've been wanting a 1016 for a while but i'm not sure if this one is fake? Price seems too good to be true: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rolex-Oyster...MAAOSwYIxX8qa4

7 November 2016, 10:10 AM	#23
zapokee "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Japan Posts: 4,344	Great decision, Doctor!

8 November 2016, 02:52 AM	#25
visualplane "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: New York, NY Watch: 5513 Posts: 1,169	Bummer, it's also 34mm instead of 36mm which is the size I prefer.

10 November 2016, 01:29 AM	#26
visualplane "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: New York, NY Watch: 5513 Posts: 1,169	Is it normal for the springbars to be sticking out like this?: http://forums.timezone.com/index.php...=0#msg_7350842

10 November 2016, 04:07 AM	#30
dysondiver "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Real Name: tom Location: northern ireland Watch: my fins Posts: 10,063	the 11explorer is a fine understated do everything watch ,,, mine has become my daily wear , and i love its size ,,, health to wear , right choice on that 1016 ,,, the faults would just bug you every day ,,,, well they would bug me.

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