5513 Dial - Insert question

[MrLy]

So I have decided that I will pursue my first vintage Rolex 5513 and be patient until I find a better "for lack of a better term" example .
I run into this one on Ebay, I think the dial is original Serif but not sure of the insert? The seller said its original but not I am not sure.

To you expert out there I would appreciate your help. What you guys think. What do you also think of the watch? Is it price well, is this consider a good example?

Thank you for your kind help. Again



Here's the link.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Role...ZAh6d#rpdCntId




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[Sky21]

Yes it is a serif dial, however the serial number is outside the range where serif dials are found. The hands are clearly replacements and the pearl is as well and I suspect the insert too. The case has been refinished according to the eBay listing and you can see some of the spring bar ends peeking out of the case indicating a lot of polishing.
For these watches I would highly recommend you purchase from a trusted seller or dealer and not eBay unless you are very knowledgeable about what to look for. There are so many put together examples or just flat out forgeries that you're most likely going to get burned on eBay.

[dbhak22]

Originally Posted by Sky21

Yes it is a serif dial, however the serial number is outside the range where serif dials are found.

I am in the process of selling my uncle's 5513 (6.0m serial) but has a serif dial although it's in the "maxi range". He's the original owner and has never had the dial replaced so it's hard because we these "truths" out there but as I did more research there are exceptions. And in the matter of 5513s in the maxi serial range w/ non-maxi dials, there are quite a few.

Of course, the watch in this thread could have had a dial replaced and the seller is not disclosing it...so I'm not saying the dial is original but without service history/records, it will be hard to definitively prove one way or another.

Here's a recent example from HQM too: https://www.hqmilton.com/timepieces/...erif-dial-8078

[Wing Zero]

The insert is period correct as is the pearl. The tritium has fallen out of the pearl and just an empty shell.

Has luminova hands and 704 crown.
The pins sticking out could be the result of aftermarket spring bars.

It has been polished though.


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[springer]

Originally Posted by Wing Zero

The insert is period correct as is the pearl. The tritium has fallen out of the pearl and just an empty shell.

Has luminova hands and 704 crown.
The pins sticking out could be the result of aftermarket spring bars.

It has been polished though.


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X2, I would agree with these observations except that the spring bar pins are sticking out from the bottom spring bar holes due to the lugs being over-polished. The insert and pearl look correct. Watch wears later replacement hands.

[MrLy]

Thank you! Now i noticed that pin :)

[MrLy]

Thank you, Will take a look!

[MrLy]

Originally Posted by springer

X2, I would agree with these observations except that the spring bar pins are sticking out from the bottom spring bar holes due to the lugs being over-polished. The insert and pearl look correct. Watch wears later replacement hands.

Thanks John, appreciate your kind reply.