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Old 1 July 2017, 01:56 AM   #1
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DSSD vs Deep Blue?

I love the look of the deep blue. Does it make sense to trade just to have a different color face? Is that the only difference? Just doesn't make sense to me. Any thought?
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Old 1 July 2017, 02:00 AM   #2
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~4 grand premium doesn’t make sense to me... that said this is all irrational in the grand scheme


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Old 1 July 2017, 02:05 AM   #3
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I have the D Blue but like both models...
At the extra,,,is it 250 Pounds at new, then worth it

But wouldn't pay the 3000 quid extra they are asking these days

My James Cameron was 8200 pounds I think,,,at the time the std black was around 7950
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Does paying 12k or 50k or 100k for a watch make sense.

It is about how you feel. Even some western people manage to buy food for 10 years with 12k. It is about sitting on a money, if you have it where else would you put it. If you already have all you need so why you need sense to buy a watch of any price :)
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Old 1 July 2017, 02:29 AM   #5
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I lost a couple hundred bucks when I sold my (second) D-Blue, and that was to a trusted seller. With some patience and effort I would have made my money back selling it privately, if not made a few bucks.

Given, I bought mine preowned in like new condition, but point is while there is an undeniable premium to buy the d-blue, it also holds its value pretty well (if you buy smart).

I'm not trying to say the black DSSD couldn't do the same if you buy smart. Both watches are great but for me I'd only go blue!

Actually I think I'd prefer the SD43 to both.
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Old 1 July 2017, 02:38 AM   #6
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I love the look of the deep blue. Does it make sense to trade just to have a different color face? Is that the only difference? Just doesn't make sense to me. Any thought?
The value in most watches is in the dial. I'd say yes its worth the premium
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Old 1 July 2017, 02:38 AM   #7
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Even if you got one new from your AD the spread between MSRP on the deep blue against the discount on the black is pretty significant.

I had a black DSSD and wouldn't pay the difference myself.
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Old 1 July 2017, 02:42 AM   #8
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I hated the blue on the deep sea. Made it look toy like. Went back to standard.
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Old 1 July 2017, 02:50 AM   #9
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If it makes you happy by that much, then yes. Only you can decide on that.

Yesterday I was at the AD and was getting a link added to my 16613LB. I thought about trading it in towards a 116613LB to take advantage of the newer bracelet (nigh and day difference in functionality), as well as white date wheel vs. tanned color on 16613LB (better visibility on newer model). Anyway, with these 'functional' advantages and a 10 year newer watch, the idea of selling my own watch and adding money to it to get the 6 digit version didn't look appealing at all. To me, that is. Someone else in my spot could potentially do the flip and walk out very happy.

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I have the D Blue but like both models...
At the extra,,,is it 250 Pounds at new, then worth it

But wouldn't pay the 3000 quid extra they are asking these days

My James Cameron was 8200 pounds I think,,,at the time the std black was around 7950
Yes, the retail difference is not much so def worth paying if you like the dial. I wouldn't pay the usual UK premiums from resellers of up to £2K.
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Old 1 July 2017, 03:00 AM   #11
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The value in most watches is in the dial. I'd say yes its worth the premium
That's a very good point
And hard to argue against assuming all other aspects are equal
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Old 1 July 2017, 03:05 AM   #12
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Its a neat dial variation and may see considerable value in the collectors market as time progresses, however I never have been able to warm up to it. I've had the standard DSSD for nearly 4 years and just couldn't see paying such a premium for a subtle dial variant. Though at the end of the day its your wrist and what makes you smile when you look at it. From a strictly dollars/cents point of view the DSSD 'standard' can certainly be had at a considerable discount vs the blue.
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Old 1 July 2017, 03:58 AM   #13
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The value in most watches is in the dial. I'd say yes its worth the premium
Well, when you put it that way...

Gorgeous pic, Brian!
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Old 1 July 2017, 04:03 AM   #14
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From a strictly dollars/cents point of view the DSSD 'standard' can certainly be had at a considerable discount vs the blue.
It's also a reasonable indicator of future value retention.
It's hard to imagine a broad collection of Rolex dive watches being complete unless there is a D-blue in there as well, let alone a collection of only Sea-Dwellers.
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Well, when you put it that way...

Gorgeous pic, Brian!
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Old 1 July 2017, 04:53 AM   #16
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I hate this forum. Now I'm looking at D-Blue for sale ads.
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Old 1 July 2017, 04:54 AM   #17
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Love 'em both, but lately the original black dial has had more appeal for some reason.
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From where your standing, No from what you will, have to pay will be too much money. IMO
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Old 1 July 2017, 05:51 AM   #19
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I love the look of the deep blue. Does it make sense to trade just to have a different color face? Is that the only difference? Just doesn't make sense to me. Any thought?
Blue dial Pateks and Audemars often command higher prices than other dial colors.
Paint color affects car prices.

Hmmm, isn't a more attractive woman (or man) in essence a face variation?
And how much does that "cost"?

My intent wasn't to objectify people, but point out that in general, with respect to many aspects of our lives, attractiveness differences based on essentially subtle/minor details can have considerable valuation differences.
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Love 'em both, but lately the original black dial has had more appeal for some reason.


I think people have realized that the DSSD black has tremendous value when compared to the rest of the divers line. For a few hundred more than a used sub C date you can have (arguably) the pinnacle of Rolex divers.


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Thanks to this evil thread, this is on the way from Tony:

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Old 1 July 2017, 06:12 AM   #22
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Put it this way: James Cameron wore a black dial and the Deep Sea Challenge watch had a black dial.

The graduated dial is a sales gimmick to boost sales of a flagging watch, much the same way Steve McQueen never wore a 1655.

The James Cameron is the black dial.

Now watch me get flamed by everyone! LOL.
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Old 1 July 2017, 06:36 AM   #23
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yes, the retail difference is not much so def worth paying if you like the dial. I wouldn't pay the usual uk premiums from resellers of up to £2k.
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Old 1 July 2017, 06:55 AM   #24
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I think I like the black dial more.
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Old 1 July 2017, 07:16 AM   #25
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I love the look of the deep blue. Does it make sense to trade just to have a different color face? Is that the only difference? Just doesn't make sense to me. Any thought?
I wouldn't trade a black dial and add a couple of thousand ££ just for a different colour dial, if I was in the market for an outright new addition I'd go DBlue.
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Put it this way: James Cameron wore a black dial and the Deep Sea Challenge watch had a black dial.

The graduated dial is a sales gimmick to boost sales of a flagging watch, much the same way Steve McQueen never wore a 1655.

The James Cameron is the black dial.

Now watch me get flamed by everyone! LOL.
Well actually the Sub is the watch of choice worn by James Cameron and a 5 digit one at that. It always has been until recently when he got a new Sub after he gave this old one away.

It would seem the only time he has been promoting the DSSD by wearing it, is when he did the latest dives depicted in the movie.
Don't forget that Rolex was a major sponsor in the whole Deep Sea Challenger project.
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Well actually the Sub is the watch of choice worn by James Cameron and a 5 digit one at that. It always has been until recently when he got a new Sub after he gave this old one away.

It would seem the only time he has been promoting the DSSD by wearing it, is when he did the latest dives depicted in the movie.
Don't forget that Rolex was a major sponsor in the whole Deep Sea Challenger project.
It seems JC has been given the coloured dial version. If you pause the video at 59 secs you can see the blue graduation:

http://movieweb.com/terminator-2-jud...james-cameron/
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Old 4 July 2017, 05:10 PM   #28
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Put it this way: James Cameron wore a black dial and the Deep Sea Challenge watch had a black dial.

The James Cameron is the black dial.

Now watch me get flamed by everyone! LOL.
agreed.

Thats is why i hate that nickname no matter what dial color we are talking about. D Blue commemorates the dive, not the person.

Calling the D Blue the James Cameron watch makes about as much sense to me as if i decided to start calling my profile pic my James Cameron Avatar.
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Its a neat dial variation and may see considerable value in the collectors market as time progresses, however I never have been able to warm up to it. I've had the standard DSSD for nearly 4 years and just couldn't see paying such a premium for a subtle dial variant. Though at the end of the day its your wrist and what makes you smile when you look at it. From a strictly dollars/cents point of view the DSSD 'standard' can certainly be had at a considerable discount vs the blue.
Agree 100%.
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I like the SDDS more then the SDDS D-Blue
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