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Old 12 October 2019, 02:49 PM   #1
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Black hands on Rolex other than Buckley DJ?

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I am interested in this watch: https://www.vintagecaliber.com/colle...re-black-hands



I see that it has black hands, and I thought that black hands were only offered on Buckley DJs. I emailed the seller/site, and the response I got was "The handset is original Rolex and original to the watch: you can also see lacquered parts on the hour markers matching the handset."

I searched and searched but could not find a single DJ with a black dial. Is this truly a rare piece of did someone swap out the hands at one point?

Any help would be appreciated!
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Old 13 October 2019, 12:26 AM   #2
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Never seen that before on a non-Roman watch. Frankly, if those hands are original Rolex they have some value as black hands for a 1570 are no longer available from Rolex. Most watchmakers simply paint metal hands when they need a set.

The black markers are rare but the ones I've seen came with ordinary metal hands. I have a 1625 with the "onyx marker" dial. As you can see, ordinary metal hands.

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Old 13 October 2019, 03:53 AM   #3
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Thatís a replacement handset. The correct hands have onyx inlays.

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Never seen that before on a non-Roman watch. Frankly, if those hands are original Rolex they have some value as black hands for a 1570 are no longer available from Rolex. Most watchmakers simply paint metal hands when they need a set.

The black markers are rare but the ones I've seen came with ordinary metal hands. I have a 1625 with the "onyx marker" dial. As you can see, ordinary metal hands.

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Thatís a replacement handset. The correct hands have onyx inlays.
Onyx inlays? Please explain as I have never seen this before. I have seen water soaked lume turn black, I have seen painted lume on the CERN milgauss but I have never seen a factory hand with an onyx inlay.
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Can we please stay on topic and discuss whether black hands on non-Buckley Datejusts are original or not?
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Can we please stay on topic and discuss whether black hands on non-Buckley Datejusts are original or not?
Black hands are from a buckley only but hands are easily replaceable. If you like the watch then I would say pick it up. You can leave it as is or pick up another set of hands and have them replaced. Very easy to do.

Exclaiming that it is a rare setup is just a marketing ploy. Most likely sometime in the watches life the original hands were corroded and someone replaced them with a set of buckley hands to match the hour markers.
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