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Old 1 July 2019, 10:51 AM   #31
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I can't answer your concern for sure, but, if it does affect the value, it couldn't be more than a couple hundred dollars. Engravings are easy to remove.

I prefer the provenance from the engraving. I think it is a nice added touch. The engraving can also be moved but the next buyer - or the case back can be swapped for one that isn't engraved.
OK thanks. I thought about replacing the caseback, but this one had all of its service history etched onto the inside, which I do like.
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Old 1 July 2019, 11:40 AM   #32
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I can't answer your concern for sure, but, if it does affect the value, it couldn't be more than a couple hundred dollars. Engravings are easy to remove.

I prefer the provenance from the engraving. I think it is a nice added touch. The engraving can also be moved but the next buyer - or the case back can be swapped for one that isn't engraved.

I think it depends on the intended use of the watch. For someone looking for a personal use watch and family heirloom engravings like this ruin the appeal. For a collector, the connection and value is different. But that makes for a smaller pool of potential buyers.


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Old 1 July 2019, 03:49 PM   #33
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I think it depends on the intended use of the watch. For someone looking for a personal use watch and family heirloom engravings like this ruin the appeal. For a collector, the connection and value is different. But that makes for a smaller pool of potential buyers.


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I agree, it certainly does.
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Old 1 July 2019, 08:55 PM   #34
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Don't remove the dedication on the case back! It is now part of the history of the watch, and is pretty cool IMO. Feel the same way about polishing off deeper scratches. If you want a completely new looking watch, get a new one. ;)


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Old 1 July 2019, 09:32 PM   #35
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This.
Too late.
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Old 30 July 2019, 09:19 PM   #36
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Well here is a small update. The bracelet and case back have been completed. Michael always sends some after photos prior to shipping. Here is what I received.

The case back looks brand new and it cost less than I thought. He removed some damaged links, man I had no idea how far gone this bracelet was.
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Old 30 July 2019, 10:01 PM   #37
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Wow! Those links. Must have been lifting serious weight/repetitive flexing the bracelet
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Old 30 July 2019, 10:13 PM   #38
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Wow! Those links. Must have been lifting serious weight/repetitive flexing the bracelet
yup, it was all set for the watch to hit the deck at any moment. I am so glad I had the bracelet serviced now, money well spent.
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Old 30 July 2019, 10:15 PM   #39
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Man, those are some serious cracks....
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Old 31 July 2019, 07:08 AM   #40
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I think its a shame that the engraving has gone, would of kept it, can imagine another 20 years down the line a story appearing where the original owner has been found etc.

Excited to see the bracelet. My late fathers Datejust needs doing but really cant bring myself to post the bracelet halfway round the world.
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Old 31 July 2019, 07:57 AM   #41
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I think its a shame that the engraving has gone, would of kept it, can imagine another 20 years down the line a story appearing where the original owner has been found etc.

Excited to see the bracelet. My late fathers Datejust needs doing but really cant bring myself to post the bracelet halfway round the world.
Case back engravings donít bother me too much,If there is a Military connection,I love them.
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Old 31 July 2019, 08:36 AM   #42
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Case back engravings donít bother me too much,If there is a Military connection,I love them.
I can understand both perspectives, but I just wanted to have a clean slate with this watch. The previous owner was a brute.
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Old 31 July 2019, 12:48 PM   #43
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I think you made the right choice removing the engraving. Itís yours now. Do what you like.


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Old 1 August 2019, 01:24 AM   #44
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What's your definition of baller? To me, if referring to M Young as a baller, it must mean his work is hit-and-miss which it is based on my experience and many others that have sent watch related items to him.

I have quit using or recommending his services to others a few years ago.

As far as the case back engraving goes, I never remove case back engravings. That is part of the watch's history that is worth saving for me.


Agree, I wouldnít use his services again.

I took my 16710 to him to get the lugs rebuilt.

I got a quote from him for 580 USD and it would take approx 3-4 weeks but when I took my watch to him this changed to approximately 1250 USD and around 6 months. They said it would look brand new so I thought ok. I asked if they could post the watch back to me and they said they could FedEx it me.

I got an email 6 weeks later saying my watch was ready so I asked if they could post it back to me. Then they tell me they can send it via the post but only insured up to $6000 or FedEx it with no insurance which should have been explained to me when I dropped the watch off.

I still canít understand how they donít have proper insurance in place. I ended up having to arrange my own insurance though Inforsure.

I finally got my watch back and there is still a slight curve on the inner part of the lugs which should have been fully built up.

Yes the watch looks a lot better than it did but when Iím told it will look like it just left the factory then thatís what I expect.





Has anyone used MY, Rolliworks and LAWW? And who delivered the rest results?
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Old 1 August 2019, 08:49 AM   #45
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Agree, I wouldn’t use his services again.

I took my 16710 to him to get the lugs rebuilt.

I got a quote from him for 580 USD and it would take approx 3-4 weeks but when I took my watch to him this changed to approximately 1250 USD and around 6 months. They said it would look brand new so I thought ok. I asked if they could post the watch back to me and they said they could FedEx it me.

I got an email 6 weeks later saying my watch was ready so I asked if they could post it back to me. Then they tell me they can send it via the post but only insured up to $6000 or FedEx it with no insurance which should have been explained to me when I dropped the watch off.

I still can’t understand how they don’t have proper insurance in place. I ended up having to arrange my own insurance though Inforsure.

I finally got my watch back and there is still a slight curve on the inner part of the lugs which should have been fully built up.

Yes the watch looks a lot better than it did but when I’m told it will look like it just left the factory then that’s what I expect.





Has anyone used MY, Rolliworks and LAWW? And who delivered the rest results?

I will post some after photos of the bracelet. I also had another bracelet restored for another Sub I own. He was pretty good, the turn around was six weeks, but I would be skeptical if it was returned sooner. At least I know he is thorough. He found all those cracked links that I was completely unaware of.

I guess my only gripe is the cost after the quote. Replacement end pieces to links cost $100USD each and thats it, you have to pay it if you want your bracelet back. So for two bracelets and the case back I ended up paying $500 more than I was quoted initially.
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Old 1 August 2019, 10:03 PM   #46
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Rolliworks has my vote currently for quality of work, ease of communication, pricing and turnaround time. Lets see if they can continue their quality of work and turnaround as they continue to get busier and busier.. So far, so good.
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Old 5 August 2019, 02:58 PM   #47
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Hi, well the bracelet and case back were returned this morning. They were stickered up like new watches, which is pretty cool. Both the case back and bracelet look brand new and ready to use for a further 30 years. (I also had a bracelet for a 1997 14060 serviced also)
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Old 5 August 2019, 03:10 PM   #48
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End results look great.
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Old 5 August 2019, 08:41 PM   #49
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Fantastic!
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Old 5 August 2019, 08:58 PM   #50
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Wow case back and bracelet look perfect... and what a great turn time back to you too

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Old 6 August 2019, 06:32 AM   #51
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Old 6 August 2019, 06:41 AM   #52
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Rolliworks has my vote currently for quality of work, ease of communication, pricing and turnaround time. Lets see if they can continue their quality of work and turnaround as they continue to get busier and busier.. So far, so good.
I like the results from Mike but if there's no discount shipping to China then I would rather use a more trust worthy person in CA

You would think it should be less than $500 for chinese labour
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Old 8 August 2019, 11:44 AM   #53
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I like the results from Mike but if there's no discount shipping to China then I would rather use a more trust worthy person in CA

You would think it should be less than $500 for chinese labour
All I care about is that this entire sub cost me negative $1750 :)

The watch I traded for this I received for free in another deal as a sweetener. I then sold the other watch from that same deal and made $2500 profit. Deduct the cost for the bracelet repair and the case back engraving removal and I think I am doing ok

This came as a full set, box papers and even its sales receipt. The previous owner thought it was so far gone it was worthless.
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Old 12 August 2019, 05:02 AM   #54
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Nah man, that's just you.
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Finished job looks great. I'm sending Mike a jubilee in a month or two.
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Agree, as well
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Old 12 August 2019, 08:21 AM   #58
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All I care about is that this entire sub cost me negative $1750 :)

The watch I traded for this I received for free in another deal as a sweetener. I then sold the other watch from that same deal and made $2500 profit. Deduct the cost for the bracelet repair and the case back engraving removal and I think I am doing ok

This came as a full set, box papers and even its sales receipt. The previous owner thought it was so far gone it was worthless.
Canít beat free 99!!
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Mike is a baller and your bracelet will return in 99.9% perfect shape. May take a couple weeks, but rest assured youíll be thrilled. You can find a new case back for like $150-200.
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may I know how to contact Michael Young?
need to repair my 7835 bracelet

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