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AshAP · 30 January 2017, 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by texex91

Pocket shot Sunday

Uber cool.

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Hairdude1 · 30 January 2017, 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by texex91

Pocket shot Sunday

jschmidtdmd · 30 January 2017, 07:33 AM

Love it!

Been sporting the red myself all day too!

Headshrinker · 30 January 2017, 09:10 AM

I'm lovin the red, Texex91!

texex91 · 30 January 2017, 10:05 AM

Thanks guys

Marciano490 · 30 January 2017, 12:42 PM

So.... interesting news coming out soon.

texex91 · 30 January 2017, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Marciano490

So.... interesting news coming out soon.

ok...that was helpful

Hairdude1 · 31 January 2017, 02:25 PM

Do tell

Sir Larry Wildman · 1 February 2017, 03:06 AM

Paul - I just want to say that every time you post a pic my will power wears down just a little bit. When I buy one, I'm sending my irate wife your way!

texex91 · 1 February 2017, 03:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Sir Larry Wildman

Paul - I just want to say that every time you post a pic my will power wears down just a little bit. When I buy one, I'm sending my irate wife your way!

Well excellent--I'm use to angry women

Hairdude1 · 1 February 2017, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by texex91

Well excellent--I'm use to angry women

masyv6 · 2 February 2017, 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Marciano490

So.... interesting news coming out soon.

Don't leave us hanging!

Marciano490 · 2 February 2017, 02:06 AM

Sorry! Was sworn to secrecy; it's just pricing related. Y'all have a 50/50 shot of guessing which way they're going. I thought news was coming out the next day.

AshAP · 2 February 2017, 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Marciano490

Sorry! Was sworn to secrecy; it's just pricing related. Y'all have a 50/50 shot of guessing which way they're going. I thought news was coming out the next day.

At least we know who not divulge our secrets to

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texex91 · 2 February 2017, 09:52 AM

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Sorry! Was sworn to secrecy; it's just pricing related. Y'all have a 50/50 shot of guessing which way they're going. I thought news was coming out the next day.

No secret--I posted about a week ago (http://www.rolexforums.com/showpost....postcount=2965)

Paul will expand details for everyone...

AD's now get 35% margin across the board, 5% up on LE pieces, 5% down MARGIN on non-LE. It's all a shell game with a few price differences, but margins changed, so it net's out. You have to understand how RM works with AD margins.

But the rest is not changed much. 055 which is long in tooth at this point dropped $10k, 035 went to $130 (which was silly), the rest is pretty much the same. New Blue Quartz is only $140, while other standard LE's stayed around $160k. No news really at the end of the day to be honest.

Worst part, all still impossible to get with much of any discount in popular pieces and discounts basically went down if you can get one

Price list for everyone to select their favorite...

conkers · 2 February 2017, 10:35 AM

The margin data is interesting and seems a little low. Does the distributor in the US also take a cut? I recall the Patek cost pricing being posted here for the UK and basically the mark up was 100 per cent roughly but this included 20 per cent VAT.

texex91 · 2 February 2017, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by conkers

The margin data is interesting and seems a little low. Does the distributor in the US also take a cut? I recall the Patek cost pricing being posted here for the UK and basically the mark up was 100 per cent roughly but this included 20 per cent VAT.

I can ONLY speak for US...not global.

Rest assured this is correct Roger.

In the US Westime (which is AD AND Boutiques owner) is ALSO the distributor for RM in US. It's a strange arrangement.

The margins posted are for AD's and I'm 100% sure.

Hope that helps.

benlee · 2 February 2017, 10:39 AM

Paul, these prices including tax right? How much is the tax?

If RM follow what most other brands like AP and PP does, the msrp are equalised across territories after adding tax. But I am not sure about that.

texex91 · 2 February 2017, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by benlee

Paul, these prices including tax right? How much is the tax?

If RM follow what most other brands like AP and PP does, the msrp are equalised across territories after adding tax. But I am not sure about that.

GUYS - PLEASE, these are SIHH 2017 US RETAIL PRICES. Taxes in the US are per state/county Ben.

I've posted the info--feel free to go find YOUR global pricing that is reflective of your region.

THIS IS THE OFFICIAL RM US RETAIL PRICING.

Goin2drt · 2 February 2017, 10:44 AM

Those are some crazy prices.

texex91 · 2 February 2017, 10:45 AM

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Those are some crazy prices.

Not for those actually buying RM...

conkers · 2 February 2017, 11:19 AM

I am not disputing you Paul I was merely making an observation that the margin looks thin compared to other brands out there.

benlee · 2 February 2017, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by texex91

GUYS - PLEASE, these are SIHH 2017 US RETAIL PRICES. Taxes in the US are per state/county Ben.

I've posted the info--feel free to go find YOUR global pricing that is reflective of your region.

THIS IS THE OFFICIAL RM US RETAIL PRICING.

OK, OK... Got it! Calm down.

texex91 · 2 February 2017, 11:32 AM

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OK, OK... Got it! Calm down.

Ok. I just honestly don't know other region pricing vs VAT, vs tax, vs currency, etc.

All good my friend...anything to speed up your 'process'

benlee · 2 February 2017, 11:39 AM

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Ok. I just honestly don't know other region pricing vs VAT, vs tax, vs currency, etc.

All good my friend...anything to speed up your 'process'

It will be a long wait. You know me.

I got a quote of HKD1.08m from my HK AD. That translate to about USD140K retail and HK is tax free. I think if RM equalize the prices, it will be better to buy in regions/countries where there is high VAT ( eg UK ) as I think discount are limited if any.

conkers · 2 February 2017, 11:41 AM

I am just speculating here but I wonder if Westime are taking something in their distributor capacity before it gets to the other ADs.

texex91 · 2 February 2017, 11:43 AM

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I am just speculating here but I wonder if Westime are taking something in their distributor capacity before it gets to the other ADs.

Oh, rest assured

More US RM Boutiques coming (Miami and NYC)...on top of all others all owned by Westime (except Aspen), maximizing profit and minimizing discounts.

The new way for RM.

Hey, more power to them.

conkers · 2 February 2017, 12:03 PM

One of the very few brands with genuine pricing power at the moment. They have done very well.

goog53 · 2 February 2017, 12:27 PM

If discounts are few and far it seems like London or Paris would be good places to buy to get the VAT but I am sure the inventory is probably nonexistent

jschmidtdmd · 2 February 2017, 01:01 PM

We've said it a few times......just one more step to msrp across the board.

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jschmidtdmd "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Real Name: John Location: Denver Posts: 2,294	We've said it a few times......just one more step to msrp across the board. __________________ Watches!

30 January 2017, 09:10 AM	#2974
Headshrinker "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: NJ Watch: Day-Date Posts: 4,056	I'm lovin the red, Texex91!

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texex91 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: . Posts: 17,898	Thanks guys

30 January 2017, 12:42 PM	#2976
Marciano490 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: Boston Posts: 1,431	So.... interesting news coming out soon.

1 February 2017, 03:06 AM	#2979
Sir Larry Wildman "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Real Name: Lawrence Location: Leeds, UK Watch: Rolex, FPJ, IWC Posts: 558	Paul - I just want to say that every time you post a pic my will power wears down just a little bit. When I buy one, I'm sending my irate wife your way!

2 February 2017, 02:06 AM	#2983
Marciano490 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: Boston Posts: 1,431	Sorry! Was sworn to secrecy; it's just pricing related. Y'all have a 50/50 shot of guessing which way they're going. I thought news was coming out the next day.

2 February 2017, 10:35 AM	#2986
conkers "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Real Name: Roger Location: Hong Kong Watch: Too many! Posts: 5,994	The margin data is interesting and seems a little low. Does the distributor in the US also take a cut? I recall the Patek cost pricing being posted here for the UK and basically the mark up was 100 per cent roughly but this included 20 per cent VAT.

2 February 2017, 10:44 AM	#2990
Goin2drt Banned Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Kentucky Posts: 2,307	Those are some crazy prices.

2 February 2017, 11:19 AM	#2992
conkers "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Real Name: Roger Location: Hong Kong Watch: Too many! Posts: 5,994	I am not disputing you Paul I was merely making an observation that the margin looks thin compared to other brands out there.

2 February 2017, 11:41 AM	#2996
conkers "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Real Name: Roger Location: Hong Kong Watch: Too many! Posts: 5,994	I am just speculating here but I wonder if Westime are taking something in their distributor capacity before it gets to the other ADs.

2 February 2017, 12:03 PM	#2998
conkers "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Real Name: Roger Location: Hong Kong Watch: Too many! Posts: 5,994	One of the very few brands with genuine pricing power at the moment. They have done very well.

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