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25 December 2016, 10:36 AM | #1 |
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"Washed off" Lume on a Vintage Sub...
I'm still searching for the perfect (affordable) vintage Sub. I should have purchased one 5-7 years ago when they were half the price they are now.
Anyway...every once in a while I will see online a gorgeous dial with perfect plots. Then, I see in the description that the lume has been "washed off." Can I assume that the lume was damaged on enough plots that someone decided to have all the lume scraped off? What should this do to the price? Imagine the watch would take less of a hit Vs. having a service dial or replacement hands? Thanks! |
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Never come across that before. When you say vintage, what ref / year are you looking at? Got an example? Sent from my cracked, broken, hand wound Phone |
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25 December 2016, 11:59 AM | #3 |
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I've seen them and I feel they do not come around as often as service dials. That being said, they are typically priced closely to a similar tritium service offering. I presume as time passes these will fetch more, a la 6538s and 5510s with service dials...
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I don't want to link to the site in question...but suffice to say, the description is as I described. The plots simply don't have lume. |
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There is a wide variety of opinions - been discussed before and hope this helps add some thoughts...as for me, I'd skip the washed dials.
http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=227325 http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=275233
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Do any of you folks have a macro pic of what a "washed off " dial looks like? I've never heard the term before.
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Id price it the same as a relumed dial. Which isnt so uncommon.
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Much thanks! Clearly I don't spend enough time here on the Vintage boards - and I was too lazy to search. I definitely am not in the market for a museum piece / safe queen. I'd be wearing the watch...so a washed dial might not be the worst compromise Vs flaking lume. |
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If you chose a washed dial watch that would be a price pointer for your negotiation. Then if you wished, relume it and get replacement luminova hands for a resto-mod keeper.
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So that really begs a question...Say I were to get a 1680 or 5513 -all original. What precautions would one take when wearing? Should you only see it once a month? On special occasions? As part of a 5-watch (or more) rotation? I have also heard of getting lume "reinforced" but what do Vintage wearers do??? |
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26 December 2016, 11:03 AM | #12 |
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I just wear my 9411- and that hour hand lume is probably more fragile than any merc hour hand.
I used to wear my 1680 but the case is being restored and has been away since April. |
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So anyone have any general guidelines or habits for "daily" vintage Sub wear? Specifically re: maintaining lume? I'd have to think knocking a Sub about would eventually shake loose pristine lume. |
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29 December 2016, 12:27 AM | #14 |
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I'd wear it until I saw an issue developing, then send it away to have the hands/dial stabilized (painted with clear acrylic).
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29 December 2016, 01:52 AM | #15 |
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Yeah, what JP said.
Or, you might have only the back of the hands painted with clear acrylic. I am actually thinking of coating the back of my flake hands with cyanoacrylate. I want to preserve the original "sheen" of the lume surface (they get too shiny when coated on top in my opinion) but there is still a risk of deterioration from the front. My 5512 dial (mid sixties) has crumbly lume but I'm not going to do anything about it other than occasionally clean out the bits that fall off the dial. Once it is devoid of lume, I may relume it with some non-glowing stuff that looks like the original stuff. Until that day comes, I'm going to enjoy it (once I get a proper crown tube). Just wear it and worry about the repairs when they are needed. You may never need to do anything. Or keep it in the safe so it's nice for the next owner... |
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I wear my 1970 1680 daily, and I wear it hard (I was using a saws-all just last night while wearing it). I've been doing so for the past 2 years (and rebuilt a house wearing it in that time). Point being, these watches are tough. If you started to notice something becoming brittle, you can send it off to a specialist to have it stabilized. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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29 December 2016, 04:57 AM | #17 |
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Thanks folks. Message received. Wear often - repair if / when necessary.
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