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Old 25 July 2013, 04:06 PM   #1
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Rolex GMT Master II 16760 - questions

Hi,
I plan to purchase this watch... after my research on internet, I have found that normally I should have found an other dial than the one on the watch. Actually, I should have been a "SWISS T 25" and not a swiss made.

It has been serviced, so I suppose that the dial has been changed. If yes, is it something worrying?

the watch presented is a fat lady, 16760 from 1986 S/N starts with 9....as you can see...

in addiiton, i attach also some pics on the caliber which is a 3085.

Thank you for precious help and potential answers.

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Old 25 July 2013, 04:09 PM   #2
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Simple answer its had a service replacement dial and now unfortunately lost a bit of its vintage commercial value.But if you intend to keep the watch and just wear it as every day wear then it will be a fine watch that will last many many years.
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Old 25 July 2013, 07:33 PM   #3
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IMO, the dial is questionable on its originality based on the "SWISS MADE" font and the minute markers. Even the lume doesn't look right.
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Old 25 July 2013, 07:34 PM   #4
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Why?
i noted that at 6 o'clock the minute marker touch....
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Old 25 July 2013, 07:43 PM   #5
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Compared your dial with mine. You should be able to spot the differences. This is the real deal which I've sold long ago.

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Old 25 July 2013, 10:25 PM   #6
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Does RSC automatically replaces old parts? I saw an old 5513 a while ago had great patina on the dial except the hands were brand new. They told me RSC switched it out during service.
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Old 25 July 2013, 10:26 PM   #7
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I think that yes.
I had the seller on phone - he said that dial is a genuine, one changed...
do you think that the dial could be a fake one?
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Old 25 July 2013, 10:43 PM   #8
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The 5-minute markers seem thicker than those found on on Ngage as well as those seen on this page http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=76416
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Old 25 July 2013, 10:46 PM   #9
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so the dial in this 16760 is a fake??
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Old 25 July 2013, 11:05 PM   #10
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I plan to purchase this watch..........
I see you have asked similar questions about this watch as:
El Padre of Poland LINK

While on this thread you are bobrowiec12 of Paris ?



Maybe other members can tell me:
Is this sort of thing accepted on this forum?
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Old 25 July 2013, 11:08 PM   #11
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for sure it's a misunderstanding - it's not me!!!!!! for sure!!! i can guarantee you at 200%%%%%%.....

but thank you...and for sure i will pass with this watch.
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Old 25 July 2013, 11:09 PM   #12
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for sure it's a misunderstanding - it's not me!!!!!! for sure!!! i can guarantee you at 200%%%%%%.....

but thank you...and for sure i will pass with this watch.
Why are the watch pictures identical then ?
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Old 25 July 2013, 11:11 PM   #13
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I am from paris...and i am currently in Poland...
and the watch is sold on internet...on a polish internet site...and for sure he also found the watch! like me!
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Old 25 July 2013, 11:13 PM   #14
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I'm gonna say at best the dial has been relumed as ecidenced by the overspray on several of the indices and the thicker indice markers.

I'd pass.
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Old 26 July 2013, 12:09 AM   #15
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Dial is not original. I own a 16760 and have both dials, the original and a replacement dial. I can vouch for the previous comments made by other forum members. Hour markers are off for sure. Hey, not a big deal...negotiate a lower price and get a period correct dial.
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Old 26 July 2013, 02:57 AM   #16
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I am from paris...and i am currently in Poland...
and the watch is sold on internet...on a polish internet site...and for sure he also found the watch! like me!
My apologies - It seemed a strange coincidence

I was watching the threads as I've got a 16760 and love it.
My advice would be to walk away from this one as it's clearly not right.
It may be a bit cheaper but I think you'll regret it.
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Old 26 July 2013, 06:48 AM   #17
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16760 is difficult to find because of only few years of production

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Old 26 July 2013, 09:21 AM   #18
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so the dial in this 16760 is a fake??
No, it is simply not the original.. An original dial would be a tritium dial and the one shown is not, therefore, it has been replaced at some point in time.
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