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Erpin · 26 October 2016, 03:42 PM

I am asking this for a friend of mine who is buying a Rolex Sub 1680. He is not an expert so he brought it to me for my opinion. The watch looks authentic but the problem is in the case. It has the Orig Rolex Design stamped between the 12o"clock lugs and the ref 1680 but the case number is 5.3m. As far as I know the 5.3m serial should have the "Registered Design" stamped and not "Orig Rolex design".

Owner has proof that he has owned the watch for the last 20 years and showed service receipts from RSC, the latest one was 5 years ago. Is this a watch that had the case replaced by RSC before?

Andad · 26 October 2016, 04:42 PM

Pix Eric?

onthedial · 26 October 2016, 05:08 PM

@Erpin
I have never seen a 5.3 mil. range 1680 with Orig Rolex Design stamped between the lugs. Like you say, it should have the "Registered Design" text. I think everyone who reads your post will want to see some clear macro shots of the lug/stamps as well as the dial. Can you provide?
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janice&fred · 27 October 2016, 09:32 AM

as many collectors know, there is a chance that the thing was re-cased with original serial numbers if it was worked on years ago in the philippines. RSC in manila used to stamp the original serial numbers on replacement cases rather than provide the usual 4 million serial number cases like other parts of the world. the font style of the number stamping should be the tell. we had a GMT from that same period that was issued a new case with original serial numbers by RSC in manila. if in doubt the best way to check the history is simply bring the thing to makati and have it looked up in the computer.

Erpin · 30 October 2016, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by janice&fred

as many collectors know, there is a chance that the thing was re-cased with original serial numbers if it was worked on years ago in the philippines. RSC in manila used to stamp the original serial numbers on replacement cases rather than provide the usual 4 million serial number cases like other parts of the world. the font style of the number stamping should be the tell. we had a GMT from that same period that was issued a new case with original serial numbers by RSC in manila. if in doubt the best way to check the history is simply bring the thing to makati and have it looked up in the computer.

Thanks. I think the owner has agreed to bring it to RSC Makati after the long holiday just to set things straight. Does it also follow that with a replacement case the price of the watch will be affected too?

janice&fred · 31 October 2016, 01:48 PM

you didn't just begin with watches last week so i'm going to pretend you didn't ask that last question.

26 October 2016, 03:42 PM	#1
Erpin "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Real Name: Eric Location: Philippines Watch: Rolex DRSD Posts: 663	Rolex Watch Case Problem I am asking this for a friend of mine who is buying a Rolex Sub 1680. He is not an expert so he brought it to me for my opinion. The watch looks authentic but the problem is in the case. It has the Orig Rolex Design stamped between the 12o"clock lugs and the ref 1680 but the case number is 5.3m. As far as I know the 5.3m serial should have the "Registered Design" stamped and not "Orig Rolex design". Owner has proof that he has owned the watch for the last 20 years and showed service receipts from RSC, the latest one was 5 years ago. Is this a watch that had the case replaced by RSC before?

26 October 2016, 04:42 PM	#2
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26 October 2016, 05:08 PM	#3
onthedial "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Los Angeles Watch: IG @onthedial Posts: 587	@Erpin I have never seen a 5.3 mil. range 1680 with Orig Rolex Design stamped between the lugs. Like you say, it should have the "Registered Design" text. I think everyone who reads your post will want to see some clear macro shots of the lug/stamps as well as the dial. Can you provide? __________ Instagram: @onthedial

27 October 2016, 09:32 AM	#4
janice&fred Banned Join Date: Jul 2010 Real Name: janice Location: St.Petersburg Fl Watch: all of them! Posts: 673	as many collectors know, there is a chance that the thing was re-cased with original serial numbers if it was worked on years ago in the philippines. RSC in manila used to stamp the original serial numbers on replacement cases rather than provide the usual 4 million serial number cases like other parts of the world. the font style of the number stamping should be the tell. we had a GMT from that same period that was issued a new case with original serial numbers by RSC in manila. if in doubt the best way to check the history is simply bring the thing to makati and have it looked up in the computer.

31 October 2016, 01:48 PM	#6
janice&fred Banned Join Date: Jul 2010 Real Name: janice Location: St.Petersburg Fl Watch: all of them! Posts: 673	you didn't just begin with watches last week so i'm going to pretend you didn't ask that last question.

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