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spirit909 · 6 November 2016, 09:33 PM

I saw some of their watches at salonqp. really liked it especially the 1140i - the details on the dial (and numerals) was awesome.. anyone got one or have any thoughts?

KarlS · 6 November 2016, 11:46 PM

I am a big fan and was glad to see them at SalonQP as they don't have any AD's outside of Switzerland. However they told me they have lined up a UK distributed. I worry about resale and Soren gave interesting mitigate that very few watches are seen on the preponderance market and the 4 on Chrono24 are old. Making 1 watch a day I asked about future production volumes and they are feared to 1000 with a new production facility being completed. I obviously teased both Kari and them on who was first!!! Lots of books coming out to show they were first. Old age story about servicing etc and the fact that they are really venture capitalists but if you own a FPJ then some applies. I do like their attention to detail around numerals and the dial and love their watch boxes. True attention to detail. However at the PC price point becomes difficult not to go PP just for the certainty of value and longevity that brand provides. It will be a contender for my PC next year

KarlS · 6 November 2016, 11:47 PM

http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=501010

Israguard · 7 November 2016, 12:53 AM

This is why I love this forum. Now I discovered another beautiful brand.. had to google it and look up the 1140i.... boy oh boy I want one now.

Love it

RUK · 7 November 2016, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Israguard

This is why I love this forum. Now I discovered another beautiful brand.. had to google it and look up the 1140i.... boy oh boy I want one now.

Love it

Em is that not a 5196p with different hands and seconds track

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Swearengen · 7 November 2016, 08:22 AM

Also saw them at Salon QP. Great watches but, yes they will no doubt drop more in value than ALS so hard not to buy a PP

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Originally Posted by KarlS

However at the PC price point becomes difficult not to go PP just for the certainty of value and longevity that brand provides. It will be a contender for my PC next year

Yamazaki · 7 November 2016, 08:32 AM

So what is their relation to Kari? The case and hands look very similar to Kari's.

lapince · 7 November 2016, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Yamazaki

So what is their relation to Kari? The case and hands look very similar to Kari's.

As far as I know he has some part of the brand, and not only the case and hands look like his watches, Rolex and Tudor...he does production and finish of the movement it seems...

KarlS · 7 November 2016, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by lapince

As far as I know he has some part of the brand, and not only the case and hands look like his watches, Rolex and Tudor...he does production and finish of the movement it seems...

U never truly got to the bottom of thus having asked both of them the question. Kari did do dials and some movements for UJ just as he has done for other brands...the hands are pretty generic breguet but maybe it's the ska Dina Ian style.

lapince · 7 November 2016, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by KarlS

U never truly got to the bottom of thus having asked both of them the question. Kari did do dials and some movements for UJ just as he has done for other brands...the hands are pretty generic breguet but maybe it's the ska Dina Ian style.

For me it's the same result like between Rolex and Tudor, the Voutilainen are the top notch and the UJ are very nice, but look too much like them, just not made to the same specifications, though UJ are also making great quality, but if you compare it's not the same level.

lapince · 7 November 2016, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by RUK

Em is that not a 5196p with different hands and seconds track

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yes it looks like the love child of a Vingt-8 Voutilainen and a 5196

SROB · 10 February 2019, 12:14 PM

How do these pieces compare to other high-end independents?

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PJ S · 10 February 2019, 07:31 PM

Which others, and compare in what way specifically?

offrdmania · 10 February 2019, 11:53 PM

Holy 2-year thread bump batman!

tigerpac · 11 February 2019, 06:19 AM

Way undervalued brand

subtona · 11 February 2019, 06:28 AM

Urban and Kari are too similar and I find it somewhat off putting... maybe I just don’t understand the brands well enough?

base924 · 11 February 2019, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by KarlS

I am a big fan and was glad to see them at SalonQP as they don't have any AD's outside of Switzerland. However they told me they have lined up a UK distributed. I worry about resale and Soren gave interesting mitigate that very few watches are seen on the preponderance market and the 4 on Chrono24 are old. Making 1 watch a day I asked about future production volumes and they are feared to 1000 with a new production facility being completed. I obviously teased both Kari and them on who was first!!! Lots of books coming out to show they were first. Old age story about servicing etc and the fact that they are really venture capitalists but if you own a FPJ then some applies. I do like their attention to detail around numerals and the dial and love their watch boxes. True attention to detail. However at the PC price point becomes difficult not to go PP just for the certainty of value and longevity that brand provides. It will be a contender for my PC next year

Hi Karl. They have a flagship store in Copenhagen where it all started in the late 17th century. It's such a pleasure to drop by now and then to see the pieces. If find the P8 movement very attractive. I think European Watch Company in Boston has a 1140 platinum blue dial for sale at quite a bargain price!

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Justindo · 11 February 2019, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by RUK

Em is that not a 5196p with different hands and seconds track

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That particular UJ is gorgeous and I much prefer it to the 5196P. Also, the quality of the UJ is better.

Viper0419 · 11 February 2019, 03:45 PM

This looks similar.

ialienam · 15 February 2019, 10:47 AM

I didn’t really know this brand until last month, one of a serious watch collectors introduced it to me..

Done a bit research, wow great history! Very similar to Breguet in my first glance, but then understand why once studied the history of it.

I was looking to get a FPJ CB or CS as my first independent watch, but I feel everyone is going after CB these days, don’t get me wrong, it’s an awesome watch, I would LOVE to own one, but I feel it’s a bit like Rolex SS which I may wish to stay away from the hype for now

I love UJ’s Arabic numbers and teardrop lugs! It’s so beautiful, but I want to have the P8 movement, and it seems not possible to be on one of those dials I want.

I want to have guilloche dial with Arabic numeral appliqués with P8 movement. Because I have seen brands like Lang & Heyne allows individual customisation, and it’s one of the benefits with independent brands. But can UJ do such thing?

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GreenRust · 17 February 2019, 07:02 AM

^^^^ yes, UJ can make your requests a reality. They're great watches and one of my favourites, the lugs, the dials, the hands, the movements and also a less teutonic feel than some others. The total package Contact Martin Pulli if you have any questions, he'll be able to steer you in the right direction. Disclaimer...I have no affiliation with Martin Pulli fine jewelry, but I am a watch geek and love nearly everything he has in stock.

christianj · 20 February 2019, 06:11 AM

Manfredi in Greenwich had the blue dialed one in stock pre-owned for a while but it is now showing as sold. Lovely watch but it wore a bit small for me plus I decided to go with another blue dialed independent instead.

DamageInc.77 · 20 March 2019, 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by RUK

Em is that not a 5196p with different hands and seconds track

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The Urban Jürgensen looks much nicer. I'd call it an upgrade.

_speedmaster_ · 14 April 2019, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by GreenRust

^^^^ yes, UJ can make your requests a reality. They're great watches and one of my favourites, the lugs, the dials, the hands, the movements and also a less teutonic feel than some others. The total package Contact Martin Pulli if you have any questions, he'll be able to steer you in the right direction. Disclaimer...I have no affiliation with Martin Pulli fine jewelry, but I am a watch geek and love nearly everything he has in stock.

Any further insight into the custom piece request process?

6 November 2016, 09:33 PM	#1
spirit909 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: London Posts: 17	urban jurgensen I saw some of their watches at salonqp. really liked it especially the 1140i - the details on the dial (and numerals) was awesome.. anyone got one or have any thoughts?

10 February 2019, 11:53 PM	#14
offrdmania 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2008 Real Name: Matt Location: Wine Country, Ca Posts: 5,838	Holy 2-year thread bump batman! __________________ TRF Member 11738

11 February 2019, 06:28 AM	#16
subtona "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: gus Location: East Coast Watch: APK & sometimes Y Posts: 25,987	Urban and Kari are too similar and I find it somewhat off putting... maybe I just don’t understand the brands well enough? __________________

6 November 2016, 11:46 PM	#2
KarlS Banned Join Date: Nov 2015 Real Name: Karl Location: Kuwait Posts: 5,228	I am a big fan and was glad to see them at SalonQP as they don't have any AD's outside of Switzerland. However they told me they have lined up a UK distributed. I worry about resale and Soren gave interesting mitigate that very few watches are seen on the preponderance market and the 4 on Chrono24 are old. Making 1 watch a day I asked about future production volumes and they are feared to 1000 with a new production facility being completed. I obviously teased both Kari and them on who was first!!! Lots of books coming out to show they were first. Old age story about servicing etc and the fact that they are really venture capitalists but if you own a FPJ then some applies. I do like their attention to detail around numerals and the dial and love their watch boxes. True attention to detail. However at the PC price point becomes difficult not to go PP just for the certainty of value and longevity that brand provides. It will be a contender for my PC next year

6 November 2016, 11:47 PM	#3
KarlS Banned Join Date: Nov 2015 Real Name: Karl Location: Kuwait Posts: 5,228	http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=501010

7 November 2016, 12:53 AM	#4
Israguard "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Montreal Posts: 859	This is why I love this forum. Now I discovered another beautiful brand.. had to google it and look up the 1140i.... boy oh boy I want one now. Love it

7 November 2016, 08:32 AM	#7
Yamazaki Banned Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Helsinki Posts: 215	So what is their relation to Kari? The case and hands look very similar to Kari's.

10 February 2019, 12:14 PM	#12
SROB "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: US Posts: 110	How do these pieces compare to other high-end independents? Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk

10 February 2019, 07:31 PM	#13
PJ S Banned Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: UK Posts: 3,990	Which others, and compare in what way specifically?

11 February 2019, 06:19 AM	#15
tigerpac "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Hoboken, NJ Posts: 646	Way undervalued brand

11 February 2019, 03:45 PM	#19
Viper0419 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Neverland Posts: 79	This looks similar.

15 February 2019, 10:47 AM	#20
ialienam "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2018 Location: Aus Posts: 133	I didn’t really know this brand until last month, one of a serious watch collectors introduced it to me.. Done a bit research, wow great history! Very similar to Breguet in my first glance, but then understand why once studied the history of it. I was looking to get a FPJ CB or CS as my first independent watch, but I feel everyone is going after CB these days, don’t get me wrong, it’s an awesome watch, I would LOVE to own one, but I feel it’s a bit like Rolex SS which I may wish to stay away from the hype for now I love UJ’s Arabic numbers and teardrop lugs! It’s so beautiful, but I want to have the P8 movement, and it seems not possible to be on one of those dials I want. I want to have guilloche dial with Arabic numeral appliqués with P8 movement. Because I have seen brands like Lang & Heyne allows individual customisation, and it’s one of the benefits with independent brands. But can UJ do such thing? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

17 February 2019, 07:02 AM	#21
GreenRust "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: Land of Guinness Posts: 187	^^^^ yes, UJ can make your requests a reality. They're great watches and one of my favourites, the lugs, the dials, the hands, the movements and also a less teutonic feel than some others. The total package Contact Martin Pulli if you have any questions, he'll be able to steer you in the right direction. Disclaimer...I have no affiliation with Martin Pulli fine jewelry, but I am a watch geek and love nearly everything he has in stock.

20 February 2019, 06:11 AM	#22
christianj Banned Join Date: May 2013 Location: CT Posts: 562	Manfredi in Greenwich had the blue dialed one in stock pre-owned for a while but it is now showing as sold. Lovely watch but it wore a bit small for me plus I decided to go with another blue dialed independent instead.

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