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α-ψ! · 5 April 2011, 05:07 AM

Is pam 000 realy difficuilt to find or that is a myth???

SubKing · 5 April 2011, 05:25 AM

000 and 005 is hard to find in most Ad's.. i know as soon as my Ad gets a 000 or a 005 in stock, they sell before they hit the display.

most of the time but not always the panerai boutique's will have one in stock. i had to order mine from NY panerai boutique and it worked out because they free overnight shipped it, and i saved on tax. only way to go in my book.

i love the 005 and 000, historic to the bone, solid case backs on them i love, makes them a bit more rugged IMO. the movements in the 000 and 005 are different than most base models with exhibition backs, the 00 and 005 do not have swan neck regulators and are not as pretty as the ones being displayed on say a 111. plus i love the painted dials only on the 44mm luminor cased pams.

other models i prefer sandwich dials.

mfer · 5 April 2011, 05:28 AM

They do go quick, but it is very reasonable to get one from an AD. If you work with them, they'll get you one or just call the Boutiques, but be prepared to pay full price.

α-ψ! · 5 April 2011, 05:56 AM

is the mechanism as good as the open back 112 111 ect???

SubKing · 5 April 2011, 06:51 AM

It is as good yes. it's a work horse movement in the 005 000...

it's just not made up to look so pretty as the movements seen in a 111 because the 005 000 have solid casebacks, panerai didnt decorate the movements that much because they can't bee seen.

swan neck regulators provide simple and easy way to adjust the movements timing where’s the 000 or 005 for instance that don't have them require a special tool to adjust the speed of the balance wheel. plus the bridge of the 005 000 is not as decorated as a 111 base pam with open back. the pam 111 bridge is also seperated in to a couple parts which make more of a fancy look and the 000/005 have one solid bridge.

that explains why the 005 is a little less exspensive than a 111, has a couple less features but in the end, pretty much the same watch.

the 005 and 000 are more popular because not only are they lower in production than other base models, but they also contain the sought after panerai logo painted on the dial.

the 000 and 005 are the only models panerai makes to this day that are modeled after the pre vendome panerai models. The rest of the base models all have more of a modern twist to them.

i love pre vendome panerai's so the 005 was a must have for me. i actually flipped my 111 and bought the 005.

α-ψ! · 5 April 2011, 07:13 AM

thank you all!!!

SubKing · 5 April 2011, 07:36 AM

welcome

Michael M. · 5 April 2011, 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mfer

They do go quick, but it is very reasonable to get one from an AD. If you work with them, they'll get you one or just call the Boutiques, but be prepared to pay full price.

Exactly, they're kind of like SS daytonas, just PAM000's don't cost as much and aren't quite as rare, there's a lot on the grey market though

Speed · 5 April 2011, 10:38 AM

Do folks really line the panerai logo on the dial?

Michael M. · 5 April 2011, 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Speed

Do folks really line the panerai logo on the dial?

I think it looks good!

marcinthemiddle · 5 April 2011, 11:03 AM

I love Panerai...don't misunderstand, but I feel the logo is just a little 'much'. Just like the PIG dial...

bcacncnc · 5 April 2011, 02:54 PM

I think the logo on the 005 makes the dial a little cluttered and unbalanced, but on the zero I think it looks nice. Both nice watches nonetheless and yes - quite sort after.

htc8p · 5 April 2011, 07:05 PM

i have never seen the base models in stores. i only see the 88 and the subs. (does that mean those are the least salable?)

Andad · 5 April 2011, 07:10 PM

Dosn't anyone want to say 'there is a 6497 in the 000'?

superb · 5 April 2011, 11:04 PM

I currently have 2 panerai watches. They are pam 0 and pam 5. What does that tell you about the logo. I bought them because of the logo and trust me, i have seen alot of panerai watches.

SubKing · 6 April 2011, 03:53 AM

hey theres a ETA 6497 modified in the 000..

esm · 6 April 2011, 03:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by superb

I currently have 2 panerai watches. They are pam 0 and pam 5. What does that tell you about the logo. I bought them because of the logo and trust me, i have seen alot of panerai watches.

Awesome. I like the logo too.

Guess you are already getting the 380

kilyung · 6 April 2011, 01:04 PM

Logo is cool.

superb · 6 April 2011, 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by esm

Awesome. I like the logo too.

Guess you are already getting the 380

Tempting. I would like to see the 380 first. The 380 looks a little too busy from the pic, but who knows i am a sucker for logo. I would hope to own the grand daddy of all logo 5218-201A.

mastruck · 7 April 2011, 01:56 AM

I bought my 000 a few months ago. Took a little bit of searching but I wouldn't say it was too difficult.

IMO, the 005 is too cluttered compared to the 000. However, I'm thinking about selling my 000 to pick up a 416.....Decisions Decisions

eagle_lex · 7 April 2011, 03:47 AM

love the logo

dmac59 · 7 April 2011, 10:44 AM

I tried on one at the NYC boutique today. 4400.00. Like the idea of overnight
tax free. Might just wait until Fall and buy one in Florance.
Any body have an Idea what they go for in Euro's?

esm · 7 April 2011, 10:49 AM

IMO - the 000 look the best on OEM black croc with White stitching strap.

Love it.

Grin_and_tonic · 7 April 2011, 01:45 PM

I think they both look good, but personally think the face without the logo is cleaner.

superb · 7 April 2011, 04:48 PM

For those who are writing off the logo thinking it ruins the dial and making it unclean should find time to see the watch. I wanted a pam 111 because of the display case. Saw both pam 111 and 0 next to each other and my mind was made instantly. Logo do doubt.

Pam 0
500 - 2004
800 - 2005
1100 - 2006
900 - 2007
1300 - 2008
1000 - 2009
1500 - 2010
Total - 7100

bcacncnc · 8 April 2011, 02:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by esm

IMO - the 000 look the best on OEM black croc with White stitching strap.

Love it.

I always thought that would be a nice combo. Got a pic?

SubKing · 8 April 2011, 02:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by superb

For those who are writing off the logo thinking it ruins the dial and making it unclean should find time to see the watch. I wanted a pam 111 because of the display case. Saw both pam 111 and 0 next to each other and my mind was made instantly. Logo do doubt.

Pam 0
500 - 2004
800 - 2005
1100 - 2006
900 - 2007
1300 - 2008
1000 - 2009
1500 - 2010
Total - 7100

+1

TopNotchChach · 8 April 2011, 03:00 AM

^ love the strap!

esm · 8 April 2011, 03:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bcacncnc

I always thought that would be a nice combo. Got a pic?

bcacncnc · 9 April 2011, 12:31 AM

Thx esm! Great combo. It's on my wish list but prob will get the choco brown OEM croc first.

5 April 2011, 05:07 AM	#1
α-ψ! "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Real Name: tolis Location: athens Watch: daytona tt Posts: 194	Pam 000 logo Is pam 000 realy difficuilt to find or that is a myth???

5 April 2011, 05:28 AM	#3
mfer "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Real Name: Mik Location: USA Posts: 13,723	They do go quick, but it is very reasonable to get one from an AD. If you work with them, they'll get you one or just call the Boutiques, but be prepared to pay full price. __________________ member#3242

5 April 2011, 11:03 AM	#11
marcinthemiddle Vacated Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Marc Location: Connecticut Watch: PAM 111 'N' Posts: 2,558	I love Panerai...don't misunderstand, but I feel the logo is just a little 'much'. Just like the PIG dial... __________________ NAWCC Member Card Carrying Member of the Global Assoc. of Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons Executive Dorklehead

5 April 2011, 02:54 PM	#12
bcacncnc "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Bryan Location: Hong Kong Posts: 1,577	I think the logo on the 005 makes the dial a little cluttered and unbalanced, but on the zero I think it looks nice. Both nice watches nonetheless and yes - quite sort after. __________________ Omega Panerai Chopard Grand Seiko

5 April 2011, 07:10 PM	#14
Andad 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: Eddie Location: Australia Watch: A few. Posts: 36,797	Dosn't anyone want to say 'there is a 6497 in the 000'? __________________ E

5 April 2011, 05:25 AM	#2
SubKing "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: USA Watch: where do i start?? Posts: 3,254	000 and 005 is hard to find in most Ad's.. i know as soon as my Ad gets a 000 or a 005 in stock, they sell before they hit the display. most of the time but not always the panerai boutique's will have one in stock. i had to order mine from NY panerai boutique and it worked out because they free overnight shipped it, and i saved on tax. only way to go in my book. i love the 005 and 000, historic to the bone, solid case backs on them i love, makes them a bit more rugged IMO. the movements in the 000 and 005 are different than most base models with exhibition backs, the 00 and 005 do not have swan neck regulators and are not as pretty as the ones being displayed on say a 111. plus i love the painted dials only on the 44mm luminor cased pams. other models i prefer sandwich dials.

5 April 2011, 05:56 AM	#4
α-ψ! "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Real Name: tolis Location: athens Watch: daytona tt Posts: 194	is the mechanism as good as the open back 112 111 ect???

5 April 2011, 06:51 AM	#5
SubKing "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: USA Watch: where do i start?? Posts: 3,254	It is as good yes. it's a work horse movement in the 005 000... it's just not made up to look so pretty as the movements seen in a 111 because the 005 000 have solid casebacks, panerai didnt decorate the movements that much because they can't bee seen. swan neck regulators provide simple and easy way to adjust the movements timing where’s the 000 or 005 for instance that don't have them require a special tool to adjust the speed of the balance wheel. plus the bridge of the 005 000 is not as decorated as a 111 base pam with open back. the pam 111 bridge is also seperated in to a couple parts which make more of a fancy look and the 000/005 have one solid bridge. that explains why the 005 is a little less exspensive than a 111, has a couple less features but in the end, pretty much the same watch. the 005 and 000 are more popular because not only are they lower in production than other base models, but they also contain the sought after panerai logo painted on the dial. the 000 and 005 are the only models panerai makes to this day that are modeled after the pre vendome panerai models. The rest of the base models all have more of a modern twist to them. i love pre vendome panerai's so the 005 was a must have for me. i actually flipped my 111 and bought the 005.

5 April 2011, 07:13 AM	#6
α-ψ! "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Real Name: tolis Location: athens Watch: daytona tt Posts: 194	thank you all!!!

5 April 2011, 07:36 AM	#7
SubKing "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: USA Watch: where do i start?? Posts: 3,254	welcome

5 April 2011, 10:38 AM	#9
Speed "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: USA Posts: 19,695	Do folks really line the panerai logo on the dial?

5 April 2011, 07:05 PM	#13
htc8p "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: Bert Location: philippines Watch: 116710 ln Posts: 3,443	i have never seen the base models in stores. i only see the 88 and the subs. (does that mean those are the least salable?)

5 April 2011, 11:04 PM	#15
superb "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: anywhere but here Posts: 690	I currently have 2 panerai watches. They are pam 0 and pam 5. What does that tell you about the logo. I bought them because of the logo and trust me, i have seen alot of panerai watches.

6 April 2011, 03:53 AM	#16
SubKing "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: USA Watch: where do i start?? Posts: 3,254	hey theres a ETA 6497 modified in the 000..

6 April 2011, 01:04 PM	#18
kilyung 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Cave Watch: Sundial Posts: 33,870	Logo is cool.

7 April 2011, 01:56 AM	#20
mastruck "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: St. Louis Posts: 13	I bought my 000 a few months ago. Took a little bit of searching but I wouldn't say it was too difficult. IMO, the 005 is too cluttered compared to the 000. However, I'm thinking about selling my 000 to pick up a 416.....Decisions Decisions

7 April 2011, 03:47 AM	#21
eagle_lex "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Real Name: Ed Location: Lexington, Ky Watch: AP and Rolex Posts: 541	love the logo

7 April 2011, 10:44 AM	#22
dmac59 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2010 Real Name: Douglas Location: RWC CA Watch: GMT Master II Posts: 8	I tried on one at the NYC boutique today. 4400.00. Like the idea of overnight tax free. Might just wait until Fall and buy one in Florance. Any body have an Idea what they go for in Euro's?

7 April 2011, 10:49 AM	#23
esm "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: Eric Location: Location,Location Watch: this, bro... Posts: 15,340	IMO - the 000 look the best on OEM black croc with White stitching strap. Love it.

7 April 2011, 01:45 PM	#24
Grin_and_tonic Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: United States Posts: 17	I think they both look good, but personally think the face without the logo is cleaner.

7 April 2011, 04:48 PM	#25
superb "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: anywhere but here Posts: 690	For those who are writing off the logo thinking it ruins the dial and making it unclean should find time to see the watch. I wanted a pam 111 because of the display case. Saw both pam 111 and 0 next to each other and my mind was made instantly. Logo do doubt. Pam 0 500 - 2004 800 - 2005 1100 - 2006 900 - 2007 1300 - 2008 1000 - 2009 1500 - 2010 Total - 7100

8 April 2011, 03:00 AM	#28
TopNotchChach "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Near the Ocean! Watch: 116610 Posts: 1,253	^ love the strap!

9 April 2011, 12:31 AM	#30
bcacncnc "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Bryan Location: Hong Kong Posts: 1,577	Thx esm! Great combo. It's on my wish list but prob will get the choco brown OEM croc first. __________________ Omega Panerai Chopard Grand Seiko

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