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Macro · 14 April 2013, 10:32 PM

Not a which one to buy thread!

I have the Speedmaster Pro 3570.50.00 and am looking for a Submariner Date 116610LN next.

Obviously, I have been into the dealer and tried the Sub on a few times and compared it to the Speedy, but in my experience wearing a watch for a week or two gives a different experience to trying it on in a shop for a few minutes with an unadjusted bracelet.

My impression is that while heavier, the Sub wears a bit smaller, especially from the 12 lugs to the 6 lugs, and with the clasp adjustment is likely to be a better fit on the wrist.

To anyone who has both, how do they compare for comfort etc. as a daily wearer?

My wrist is 7" if that helps.

Appreciate any feedback.

joe100 · 14 April 2013, 10:41 PM

I prefer the Speedmaster to the Sub in comfort but its subjective

Cabaiguan · 14 April 2013, 11:02 PM

The SubC is a great watch but I've owned and flipped it a couple of times.

The Speedmaster is still with me and I have no intention of selling. It's lighter and thinner than the Sub and IMO wears very well. More micro adjustments on the bracelet would be nice but an overall comfy watch.

impalass · 14 April 2013, 11:14 PM

My wrist is 7" and I rotated a Speedy and Sub 16610 for over 30 yrs.

In my bias opinion the older classic Sub would be the perfect mate for your Speedmaster Pro and wrist size. The Sub C is good too.

landroverking · 14 April 2013, 11:35 PM

I have had a SD TT bluesy and a 18kt bluesy. The all gold and SD wear a little top heavy but easy to get use to. TT subs not much different that SS in daily wear.
For me the Speedmaster Pro on a strap is the most comfortable.

landroverking · 14 April 2013, 11:35 PM

I have had a SD TT bluesy and a 18kt bluesy. The all gold and SD wear a little top heavy but easy to get use to. TT subs not much different that SS in daily wear.
For me the Speedmaster Pro on a strap is the most comfortable.

strafer_kid · 14 April 2013, 11:37 PM

Hi

I have the Speedmaster PRO and a Sub 1680. Whilst not answering your query exactly, I can say that the Speedmaster feels slightly bigger than the Sub though not uncomfortably so. I expect it would feel closer in size to the new Sub.

The Speedmaster is a classic and a keeper. Mine has been everywhere in all weathers and it stands the test. Keep it and go for the Sub as a second watch!

Macro · 15 April 2013, 03:41 AM

Thanks for the feedback.

The Speedmaster is a great watch, but sometimes a bit uncomfortable on the bracelet, due to a combination of lugs quite high up the side of the case, quite long lugs, and only limited adjustment options on the bracelet.

The new SubC seems to solve some of these issues, but if as a couple of people have posted the SubC is less comfortable than the Speedmaster it might not be a sensible move for me.

Guess the thing to do is to try the Speedmaster on a strap first.

Any more feedback appreciated.

And · 15 April 2013, 04:17 AM

Hi Macro,

I have a Speedy Pro and a Subc. Both are very comfortable as daily wearers. The Speedy is a lot lighter but I like the heft of the Sub. I wear the Speedy on leather mainly and i think it's the coolest watch on the planet (or off it).

The Sub is beautiful but flawed (lugs). However, I like my watches snug to my wrist and that means there is a small window between too tight and just right. The Glidelock allows me to get a perfect fit, unlike any other watch I've owned and for this reason it gets top marks for comfort from me.

Macro · 15 April 2013, 05:17 AM

Thanks And

Which do you find sits higher on the wrist / moves around more?

The Speedmaster does move around just a bit due to the limited adjustment options and high lugs, which I assume the clasp on the SubC would resolve.

While the SubC has wide lugs, they do not seem to stick out as far as the Speedmaster and again may be more comfortable.

vince211 · 15 April 2013, 05:46 AM

Hi,

Ive got both as well and love my speedy pro; its a great watch. I chose to sell my daytona and keep the speedy. Its a masterpiece. Having said that, i enjoy the subc just a tad more. Its heavier but not uncomfy at all. I love being able to adjust the clasp on the fly. Im in denver this week in colder weather and have had to adjust clasp . Next week back at home in los angeles and 80 degrees i will be able to adjust clasp again with ease! Hope the feedback helps. cheers!

thewatchguy93 · 15 April 2013, 06:20 AM

sub-c

Lew Archer · 15 April 2013, 06:36 AM

I have the Moon watch and the 14060M...they have a slightly different feel, but, in terms of daily wearing, are equally good. Both comfortable and fun to wear. And both offer different ways to make sure you get back to your car before the parking meter expires!

melons · 15 April 2013, 06:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by impalass

My wrist is 7" and I rotated a Speedy and Sub 16610 for over 30 yrs.

In my bias opinion the older classic Sub would be the perfect mate for your Speedmaster Pro and wrist size. The Sub C is good too.

I have the 3570.50 and 16610 pairing also, and they are perfect mates.

mrhy · 15 April 2013, 06:48 AM

I have a speedy pro and a 50th anniversary sub,I find the rolex bracelet far superior to the omega.I just put the speedy on an everest band and it is my most comfortable setup.

Exhausted · 16 April 2013, 12:23 PM

I have a SubC and am in the market for a second watch.

I was determined to get an Omega, particularly the highly regarded Speedy Pro, but I feel I'm forcing myself to love it.

For me the Sub is much preferred. (Leaning toward 39mm Explorer ll as my second really nice watch).

Elusion · 5 May 2013, 07:17 AM

I have both the Speedmaster 3750 and the Subc (114060).

You're right, the Sub wears a bit "smaller". Though it seems taller to me. The Speedy seems bit more flat.
I actually like the braclet on the Speedy better, it's slightly more comfortable in some aspects and I like the looks a little better.
That said I REALLY LIKE the adjust on the SUB. I use it throughout the day. I do "notice" the clasp on the braclet of the SUB more than the Speedy's (as far as "desk diving" is concerned).

Within the last month I've gone from the SUB on a NATO to the SUB on a Braclet to my Speedy. All are comfortable. I just have to try the Speedy on a NATO now.

mew · 5 May 2013, 09:43 AM

I rotate between a speedmaster 3750.50 and a 14060 sub and both function well as a daily wearer. I dont think I have a preference in terms of comfort between both models however I have a small wrist which results in the sub's clasp to be off center.

I dont think you can go wrong with either the SubC or Speedy

Tools · 5 May 2013, 10:42 AM

You won't have to cut your thumbs up winding the Sub every morning..

Ardalan · 5 May 2013, 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joe100

i prefer the speedmaster to the sub in comfort but its subjective

+1

Chewbacca · 5 May 2013, 11:25 AM

could get ugly but both great watches. dollar vs. dollar, the sub-c is the better buy option but the smp seems at home with rubber, leather or stainless bands imo. its a toss up.

Mason2314 · 5 May 2013, 11:25 AM

I have 6.5" wrists and the speedy pro was too long lug to lug so I got the speedy date. I just bought a SubC and the overall length of the sub seems to be shorter than the speedy pro. The sub is as big as I would ever go, but multiple people have said it fits me well. I would pick the pro and the sub as the perfect 2 watch collection for a 7" wrist.

Andrés G · 5 May 2013, 01:07 PM

I've had both watches and for me, the Speedy is more comfortable to wear.

underdog33 · 5 May 2013, 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by melons

I have the 3570.50 and 16610 pairing also, and they are perfect mates.

+1. I have both and couldn't dream about parting with either. I prefer to wear my Speedy Pro on a leather strap which makes it a bit more comfortable when compared to my 16610 and other heavier watches.

Typhoon7 · 5 May 2013, 02:38 PM

I prefer the sub. So much that I have 2.

Speed · 5 May 2013, 02:41 PM

Speedy on a strap is the best / lightest option for that watch IMO.

Macro · 5 May 2013, 08:35 PM

Thanks for the replies. It is really difficult to get a good idea of what a watch is like to wear day in day out in a dealer, so this sort of feedback is really useful. I've bought watches in the past that seemed fine, but turned out to be quite uncomfortable after a few days, and it is an expensive mistake to keep making!

I am going to look for a black alligator strap for the Speedy, although I do really like the bracelet - especially the clasp.

The Speedy is really as big a watch as I'd want to wear so I'm moving away from the idea of a Subc and thinking about a 16610 or 16570 now.

Decisions, decisions...

nick c · 5 May 2013, 10:18 PM

Sub

Yanks213x · 5 May 2013, 11:16 PM

I'm not the biggest fan of leather strapped watches, but I feel that the speedmaster pro looks great with one. These are the two watches I'd want in a collection.

HL65 · 5 May 2013, 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Speed

Speedy on a strap is the best / lightest option for that watch IMO.

Agree and for me Speedy on strap looks the best too!

14 April 2013, 10:32 PM	#1
Macro Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: UK Posts: 125	Subc vs Speedmaster Pro Not a which one to buy thread! I have the Speedmaster Pro 3570.50.00 and am looking for a Submariner Date 116610LN next. Obviously, I have been into the dealer and tried the Sub on a few times and compared it to the Speedy, but in my experience wearing a watch for a week or two gives a different experience to trying it on in a shop for a few minutes with an unadjusted bracelet. My impression is that while heavier, the Sub wears a bit smaller, especially from the 12 lugs to the 6 lugs, and with the clasp adjustment is likely to be a better fit on the wrist. To anyone who has both, how do they compare for comfort etc. as a daily wearer? My wrist is 7" if that helps. Appreciate any feedback.

14 April 2013, 10:41 PM	#2
joe100 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Real Name: Joe Location: New Mexico Watch: Explorer Posts: 12,753	I prefer the Speedmaster to the Sub in comfort but its subjective __________________ It's Espresso, not Expresso. Coffee is not a train in Italy. -TRF Member 6982-

14 April 2013, 11:02 PM	#3
Cabaiguan "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Real Name: Raf Location: NJ Watch: GMTII Posts: 2,150	The SubC is a great watch but I've owned and flipped it a couple of times. The Speedmaster is still with me and I have no intention of selling. It's lighter and thinner than the Sub and IMO wears very well. More micro adjustments on the bracelet would be nice but an overall comfy watch. __________________ "A ship of war is the best ambassador." - Oliver Cromwell

15 April 2013, 06:20 AM	#12
thewatchguy93 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Real Name: thewatchguy Location: UK Watch: me buy gold.. Posts: 7,441	sub-c __________________ Instagram.. @thewatchguy www.thewatchguyofficial.co.uk Got a GREEN Submariner 116610LV.. Visit the official thread here! http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=179580 Don't forget to visit the Rolex & Attire thread too! http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=215077

16 April 2013, 12:23 PM	#16
Exhausted "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Toronto Posts: 189	I have a SubC and am in the market for a second watch. I was determined to get an Omega, particularly the highly regarded Speedy Pro, but I feel I'm forcing myself to love it. For me the Sub is much preferred. (Leaning toward 39mm Explorer ll as my second really nice watch). __________________ SubC LV Explorer l 39mm Pam 560 (sold)

14 April 2013, 11:14 PM	#4
impalass "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Real Name: Mark Location: Toronto, Canada. Watch: SD / LV / Daytona Posts: 2,089	My wrist is 7" and I rotated a Speedy and Sub 16610 for over 30 yrs. In my bias opinion the older classic Sub would be the perfect mate for your Speedmaster Pro and wrist size. The Sub C is good too.

14 April 2013, 11:35 PM	#5
landroverking "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Jay Location: TEXAS Watch: Daytona Posts: 7,648	I have had a SD TT bluesy and a 18kt bluesy. The all gold and SD wear a little top heavy but easy to get use to. TT subs not much different that SS in daily wear. For me the Speedmaster Pro on a strap is the most comfortable.

14 April 2013, 11:37 PM	#7
strafer_kid "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: Kenny Location: northern ireland Watch: SDs, Subs & GMTs Posts: 5,127	Hi I have the Speedmaster PRO and a Sub 1680. Whilst not answering your query exactly, I can say that the Speedmaster feels slightly bigger than the Sub though not uncomfortably so. I expect it would feel closer in size to the new Sub. The Speedmaster is a classic and a keeper. Mine has been everywhere in all weathers and it stands the test. Keep it and go for the Sub as a second watch!

15 April 2013, 03:41 AM	#8
Macro Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: UK Posts: 125	Thanks for the feedback. The Speedmaster is a great watch, but sometimes a bit uncomfortable on the bracelet, due to a combination of lugs quite high up the side of the case, quite long lugs, and only limited adjustment options on the bracelet. The new SubC seems to solve some of these issues, but if as a couple of people have posted the SubC is less comfortable than the Speedmaster it might not be a sensible move for me. Guess the thing to do is to try the Speedmaster on a strap first. Any more feedback appreciated.

15 April 2013, 04:17 AM	#9
And "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Real Name: Andy Location: Beds Watch: Speedmaster Posts: 198	Hi Macro, I have a Speedy Pro and a Subc. Both are very comfortable as daily wearers. The Speedy is a lot lighter but I like the heft of the Sub. I wear the Speedy on leather mainly and i think it's the coolest watch on the planet (or off it). The Sub is beautiful but flawed (lugs). However, I like my watches snug to my wrist and that means there is a small window between too tight and just right. The Glidelock allows me to get a perfect fit, unlike any other watch I've owned and for this reason it gets top marks for comfort from me.

15 April 2013, 05:17 AM	#10
Macro Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: UK Posts: 125	Thanks And Which do you find sits higher on the wrist / moves around more? The Speedmaster does move around just a bit due to the limited adjustment options and high lugs, which I assume the clasp on the SubC would resolve. While the SubC has wide lugs, they do not seem to stick out as far as the Speedmaster and again may be more comfortable.

15 April 2013, 05:46 AM	#11
vince211 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Rancho Cucamonga Watch: Sub-c Posts: 187	Hi, Ive got both as well and love my speedy pro; its a great watch. I chose to sell my daytona and keep the speedy. Its a masterpiece. Having said that, i enjoy the subc just a tad more. Its heavier but not uncomfy at all. I love being able to adjust the clasp on the fly. Im in denver this week in colder weather and have had to adjust clasp . Next week back at home in los angeles and 80 degrees i will be able to adjust clasp again with ease! Hope the feedback helps. cheers!

15 April 2013, 06:36 AM	#13
Lew Archer "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: L.A., Calif. Watch: Rolex Submariner Posts: 2,217	I have the Moon watch and the 14060M...they have a slightly different feel, but, in terms of daily wearing, are equally good. Both comfortable and fun to wear. And both offer different ways to make sure you get back to your car before the parking meter expires!

15 April 2013, 06:48 AM	#15
mrhy "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: new york Watch: Pepsi GMT Posts: 2,383	I have a speedy pro and a 50th anniversary sub,I find the rolex bracelet far superior to the omega.I just put the speedy on an everest band and it is my most comfortable setup.

5 May 2013, 07:17 AM	#17
Elusion "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: US Watch: Speedy&Submariner Posts: 158	I have both the Speedmaster 3750 and the Subc (114060). You're right, the Sub wears a bit "smaller". Though it seems taller to me. The Speedy seems bit more flat. I actually like the braclet on the Speedy better, it's slightly more comfortable in some aspects and I like the looks a little better. That said I REALLY LIKE the adjust on the SUB. I use it throughout the day. I do "notice" the clasp on the braclet of the SUB more than the Speedy's (as far as "desk diving" is concerned). Within the last month I've gone from the SUB on a NATO to the SUB on a Braclet to my Speedy. All are comfortable. I just have to try the Speedy on a NATO now.

5 May 2013, 09:43 AM	#18
mew "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Singapore Posts: 187	I rotate between a speedmaster 3750.50 and a 14060 sub and both function well as a daily wearer. I dont think I have a preference in terms of comfort between both models however I have a small wrist which results in the sub's clasp to be off center. I dont think you can go wrong with either the SubC or Speedy

5 May 2013, 10:42 AM	#19
Tools TRF Moderator & 2024 DATE-JUST41 Patron Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Larry Location: Mojave Desert Watch: GMT's Posts: 43,044	You won't have to cut your thumbs up winding the Sub every morning.. __________________ (Chill ... It's just a watch Forum.....) NAWCC Member

5 May 2013, 11:25 AM	#21
Chewbacca Banned Join Date: May 2012 Real Name: CJ Location: Kashyyyk Watch: Kessel Run Chrono Posts: 21,113	could get ugly but both great watches. dollar vs. dollar, the sub-c is the better buy option but the smp seems at home with rubber, leather or stainless bands imo. its a toss up.

5 May 2013, 11:25 AM	#22
Mason2314 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: TX Posts: 24	I have 6.5" wrists and the speedy pro was too long lug to lug so I got the speedy date. I just bought a SubC and the overall length of the sub seems to be shorter than the speedy pro. The sub is as big as I would ever go, but multiple people have said it fits me well. I would pick the pro and the sub as the perfect 2 watch collection for a 7" wrist.

5 May 2013, 01:07 PM	#23
Andrés G "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Guatemala Posts: 3,391	I've had both watches and for me, the Speedy is more comfortable to wear.

5 May 2013, 02:38 PM	#25
Typhoon7 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: USA Posts: 19	I prefer the sub. So much that I have 2.

5 May 2013, 02:41 PM	#26
Speed "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: USA Posts: 19,695	Speedy on a strap is the best / lightest option for that watch IMO.

5 May 2013, 08:35 PM	#27
Macro Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: UK Posts: 125	Thanks for the replies. It is really difficult to get a good idea of what a watch is like to wear day in day out in a dealer, so this sort of feedback is really useful. I've bought watches in the past that seemed fine, but turned out to be quite uncomfortable after a few days, and it is an expensive mistake to keep making! I am going to look for a black alligator strap for the Speedy, although I do really like the bracelet - especially the clasp. The Speedy is really as big a watch as I'd want to wear so I'm moving away from the idea of a Subc and thinking about a 16610 or 16570 now. Decisions, decisions...

5 May 2013, 10:18 PM	#28
nick c Banned Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Canada Posts: 26,846	Sub

5 May 2013, 11:16 PM	#29
Yanks213x "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Real Name: Mike Location: Long Island Watch: 14060m Posts: 342	I'm not the biggest fan of leather strapped watches, but I feel that the speedmaster pro looks great with one. These are the two watches I'd want in a collection.

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