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11 May 2013, 12:35 PM
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TIME SETTING- Clockwise / Counter-Clockwise
Hunting for Air-Kings this week, I noticed that some of the very slightly older models, like around the late nineties set by turning the crown counter-clockwise, while the newer models set clockwise, which is what I'm used to with my other Rolex.
Can anyone please tell me when that changed, and which no-date calibre was the former, used in the mid-late 90's that set counter-clockwise? Thanks, fellas!
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11 May 2013, 01:04 PM
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The Cal. 3000 and it's date counterpart 3035 rotated opposite from the modern movements..
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11 May 2013, 01:17 PM
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Super, thanks!
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11 May 2013, 06:51 PM
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651H : crown CW -> hands CW (Cellini) 727 : crown CW -> hands CW (Daytona 6263/5) 750 : crown CW -> hands CW (Cellini) 1225 : crown CW -> hands CCW (OD 6694) 1240 : crown CW -> hands CCW 1400 : crown CW -> hands CCW (Cellini) 1520 : crown CW -> hands CCW (Sub 5513) 1530 : crown CW -> hands CCW (Sub 5513) 1570 : crown CW -> hands CCW (OP) 1575 : crown CW -> hands CCW (DJ,Sub 1680,GMT) 1560 : crown CW -> hands CCW (Sub 5512,Explo 1016) 1565 : crown CW -> hands CCW (DJ) 1580 : crown CW -> hands CCW (MG 1019) 1601 : crown CW -> hands CW (Cellini) 1800 : crown CW -> hands CCW (Rolex lady) 2030 : crown CW -> hands CCW (OP 26/29/31mm) 2035 : crown CW -> hands CCW (DJ 26/29/31mm) 2130 : crown CW -> hands CCW (OP 26/29/31mm) 2135 : crown CW -> hands CCW (DJ 26/29/31mm) 2230 : crown CW -> hands CCW (OP 26/29/31mm) 2231 : crown CW -> hands CCW (OP 26/29/31mm) 2235 : crown CW -> hands CCW (DJ 26/29/31mm,YM 29/35 mm) 3000 : crown CW -> hands CCW (Sub 14060,Explo1,AK) 3035 : crown CW -> hands CCW (DJ) 3055 : crown CW -> hands CCW (daydate) 3075 : crown CW -> hands CCW (GMT) 3085 : crown CW -> hands CW - hour hand alone CCW (GMT2) 3130 : crown CW -> hands CW (Sub 14060M,Explo1) 3131 : crown CW -> hands CW (Milgauss) 3132 : crown CW -> hands CW (Explo1 39mm) 3135 : crown CW -> hands CW (DJ,TOG,Sub Date,SDDS) 3136 : crown CW -> hands CW (DJ 2) 3155 : crown CW -> hands CW (DD) 3156 : crown CW -> hands CW (DD 2) 3175 : crown CW -> hands CW (GMT) 3185 : crown CW -> hands CW - hour hand alone CW (GMT2,Explo2) 3186 : crown CW -> hands CW - hour hand alone CW (GMT2,Explo2) 3187 : crown CW -> hands CW - hour hand alone CW (Explo2 42mm) 4030 : crown CW -> hands CCW (Daytona 16520) 4130 : crown CW -> hands CW (Daytona) 4160 : crown CW -> hands CW (YM II) 5035 : crown CW -> hands CCW (Oysterquartz DJ) 5055 : crown CW -> hands CCW (Oysterquartz DD) 6220 : crown CW -> hands CW (Cellini Quartz) 6621 : crown CW -> hands CW (Cellini Quartz) 7040 : crown CW -> hands CW (Prince) 9001 : crown CW -> hands CCW (Sky Dweller) |
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11 May 2013, 07:27 PM
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11 May 2013, 07:31 PM
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Excellent resource Alpino - thanks!
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11 May 2013, 08:40 PM
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Wow, now that's the stuff, Alpino...Thanks!
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11 May 2013, 09:15 PM
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Please make this a sticky!!!!!!!
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11 May 2013, 10:39 PM
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I no sure I'm understanding the question here. Is this about setting the time...like by rotating the windng crown? On my 114060...I can rotate either CW or CCW to move the hands to set the time. Sorry for the dumb question...
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11 May 2013, 11:49 PM
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Wow, amazing info, and easy to understand to boot.
You're the man. This should be a sticky.  Thanks for posting. Quote:
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12 May 2013, 12:18 AM
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12 May 2013, 12:52 PM
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Oh...I see what being addressed...not which direction you should turn the hands to set the time...rather, which direction do the hands turn when you rotate the crown either CW or CCW. Thanks.
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12 May 2013, 12:54 PM
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13 May 2013, 12:54 PM
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Dr. Alpino - That is an AWESOME list ! Thank you.
I've gone ladies DJ shopping for my wife and when I make small talk about how the 2235 is the opposite of most current gents models, I would say less than 50% of the salespeople knew this until I told them. This list is the definitive resource - STICKY TIME ! |
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1 December 2019, 06:18 PM
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Putting this thread back to life!
I just noticed something when setting the time on my SD4k: When turning the crown clockwise, hands are moving forward, following any slight movement of the crown and staying in place when i stop touching the crown. But when turning the crown counter-clockwise, there is kind of a "spring effect". Hands are moving backwards but coming back forward of about half a minute when i stop touching the crown. Not sure if i'm clear in my explanation, but if you do understand: Is it normal?? |
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2 December 2019, 01:25 AM
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I understand what you’re describing and yes that is normal 
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2 December 2019, 01:30 AM
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Does anyone has a "technical" explanation to that? |
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2 December 2019, 03:13 AM
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When you move the geartrain with the crown, you must take up all of the lash. When the watch is running all of the lash is taken up via the mainspring. Turning the crown backwards, you take up that lash in the opposite direction from the mainspring tension; when you let go of the crown, the mainspring tension will pull the geartrain until the lash is again taken up in the running direction.
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2 December 2019, 06:50 AM
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