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raywatch · 31 January 2019, 12:04 AM

Hello guys I would love to get some opinions from the forum.

I currently have the following and I truly enjoy them daily:

Patek 5980/1a 2009
AP 15407 2016
Lange datograph rose gold 2017
Rolex Batman 2018
Omega speedmaster 1866 2017

I have approx 170,000 USD budget - and in a position to
buy 1-3 pieces new or used has to be either Patek, AP, Rolex, Richard Mille

If you had this budget, what would be your next piece?
What should i buy to get the best investment for the future 2-5 years in your opinion?

I know at lot of you guys will say that watches are not for investment but all of my pieces are making very decent profit (except omega

) If I choose wisely maybe this trend will continue

Watches i have in mind:

RM 11-03 titanium RM 35-01 carbon (but prices already gone up so much)
Other RMs that are not so common at used market with good future..
Rolex La Montoya (if only any of u know how to get it

)
Patek 5270 blue dial (maybe - but cannot find)
AP perpetual calendar ceramic 26579CE

I know none of us really know but Any opinion would be great!

goog53 · 31 January 2019, 01:59 AM

The 35-01 or AP CE PC

derekhayden · 31 January 2019, 02:12 AM

Looks like the La Montoya can be ordered and custom made directly from their site.

https://www.artisansdegeneve.com/en/...-montoya-gold/

I have no opinion on anything else as this is way out of my league.

beshannon · 31 January 2019, 02:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raywatch

If you had this budget, what would be your next piece?
What should i buy to get the best investment for the future 2-5 years in your opinion?

What percentage of return are you looking to get when you sell these investments in 2-5 years?

brandrea · 31 January 2019, 03:06 AM

I'd but all the SS Daytona's I could get my hands, on at retail.

Edit: or 5711 blue dials

77T · 31 January 2019, 03:10 AM

IMHO, not possible to know economic factors 2-5 years out. Prices could be flat by then.

But my advice is pre-owned in Excellent condition, full sets, stay with Patek models you like, and no matter what - you will enjoy it and have best chance to preserve or from value.

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capote · 31 January 2019, 03:45 AM

OP it sounds like you already have it figuered out

stockae92 · 31 January 2019, 04:55 AM

For investment and pleasure, I would go with vintage Rolex SD, Sub, or Porsche 911 :)

mbalmz · 31 January 2019, 05:13 AM

I’d buy a 5 year CD :)

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GradyPhilpott · 31 January 2019, 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by mbalmz

I’d buy a 5 year CD :)

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I agree.

As for the "La Montoya" it has been discontinued and no more than 50 copies were ever made. Good luck.

https://www.artisansdegeneve.com/en/...ns/la-montoya/

AK797 · 31 January 2019, 07:29 AM

You've made a lot of threads on which watches you should buy... how about some pics of the watches you actually have?

What happened to the 5990 you owned, and didn't you say you were going to buy another investment Chrono last year?

CorradoBrit · 31 January 2019, 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stockae92

Porsche 911 :)

thats where i have nice chunk invested. Low mileage 993. Pure rolling art

raywatch · 31 January 2019, 03:58 PM

Thanks for the reply. I was not able to upload as I was newbie to this forum.

As for the 5990 VS 59801a I talked about last post: I decided not to buy them just yet. But would have made a profit on it I did lol 😬

I have an Instagram account ‘Art_time_collector’

please check it out!

https://instagram.com/arttimecollect...d=3o9kce9spmt0

Quote:

Originally Posted by AK797

You've made a lot of threads on which watches you should buy... how about some pics of the watches you actually have?

What happened to the 5990 you owned, and didn't you say you were going to buy another investment Chrono last year?

raywatch · 31 January 2019, 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GradyPhilpott

I agree.

As for the "La Montoya" it has been discontinued and no more than 50 copies were ever made. Good luck.

https://www.artisansdegeneve.com/en/...ns/la-montoya/

Yea the steel one is amazing!! I wonder if any of you guys ordered?
Anyone know how I could get my hands on one? 😬

Gaijin · 31 January 2019, 04:41 PM

I just clicked on this thread to see how many people were saying, "Watches are not investments!!"

Sadly I was disappointed.

jenniferjanef · 31 January 2019, 05:23 PM

Any early RM specially those single digit are a good buy such as RM002 or RM005 (highest water resistance tonneau case RM)

TBJ · 31 January 2019, 05:28 PM

While in a lower price range than the pieces you have in mind, I would recommend considering adding an 18k Zenith Daytona to your collection.

yoast · 31 January 2019, 08:57 PM

Patek 5170p

yoast · 31 January 2019, 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gaijin

i just clicked on this thread to see how many people were saying, "watches are not investments!!"

Sadly i was disappointed.

+1

GreenLantern · 1 February 2019, 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GradyPhilpott

I agree.

As for the "La Montoya" it has been discontinued and no more than 50 copies were ever made. Good luck.

https://www.artisansdegeneve.com/en/...ns/la-montoya/

Curious how true that is. They just barely released it.

Did the overpriced 50 steel versions (116520's) all find buyers this quickly.

CorradoBrit · 1 February 2019, 03:26 PM

Montoya, who? Must be a Nascar thing cos he didn't do much in F1. Not exactly a Senna or Hamilton

ajas · 1 February 2019, 11:42 PM

It is a hobby, a commitment, you name it, definitely not investment forum..

Regardless how much you can spend ( Seiko or RM ) , ths forum is for watches passionates who are a bunch of friends, and share the same passion.
If you can make a buck selling watch to buy next one you are hunting for, good on you. Majority of us probably won't as we use heart for this hobby, insted of brain.

Lastly would you consider making commitment or friendship with mind set up how much you can make out of them.

I don't. It is my passion.

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Watcheroo · 2 February 2019, 01:55 AM

Don’t know about it being an investment, but I tried the AP ceramic PC and the thing is stunning! I’d probably go with that. My pic, not my watch:

GradyPhilpott · 2 February 2019, 02:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GreenLantern

Curious how true that is. They just barely released it.

Did the overpriced 50 steel versions (116520's) all find buyers this quickly.

I got that information from the website, so I'm assuming it's correct.

By the way, the customer provides the watch according to the website.

https://www.artisansdegeneve.com/en/...ns/la-montoya/

Sam3641 · 3 February 2019, 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raywatch

Hello guys I would love to get some opinions from the forum.

I currently have the following and I truly enjoy them daily:

Patek 5980/1a 2009

AP 15407 2016

Lange datograph rose gold 2017

Rolex Batman 2018

Omega speedmaster 1866 2017

I have approx 170,000 USD budget - and in a position to

buy 1-3 pieces new or used has to be either Patek, AP, Rolex, Richard Mille

If you had this budget, what would be your next piece?

What should i buy to get the best investment for the future 2-5 years in your opinion?

I know at lot of you guys will say that watches are not for investment but all of my pieces are making very decent profit (except omega

) If I choose wisely maybe this trend will continue

Watches i have in mind:

RM 11-03 titanium RM 35-01 carbon (but prices already gone up so much)

Other RMs that are not so common at used market with good future..

Rolex La Montoya (if only any of u know how to get it

)

Patek 5270 blue dial (maybe - but cannot find)

AP perpetual calendar ceramic 26579CE

I know none of us really know but Any opinion would be great!

No matter what money you choose to spend I would stay well away from RM. A thorough search on the movements they use should result in your opinion of RM being greatly diminished especially when considering the price they are asking for them.
For that money and something a bit more adventurous why not try a complicated Parmigiani ? Absolute exquisite watches !

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watchucallit · 5 February 2019, 11:00 AM

I have to disagree with you here. They "make/use" some of the most complex movements and based on supply and demand -- many of their models on the grey market continue to rise in value

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam3641

No matter what money you choose to spend I would stay well away from RM. A thorough search on the movements they use should result in your opinion of RM being greatly diminished especially when considering the price they are asking for them.
For that money and something a bit more adventurous why not try a complicated Parmigiani ? Absolute exquisite watches !

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ap1 · 5 February 2019, 11:07 AM

5170p

kunlun · 5 February 2019, 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by watchucallit

I have to disagree with you here. They make some of the most complex movements and based on supply and demand -- many of their models on the grey market continue to rise in value

"They make"

watchucallit · 5 February 2019, 11:55 AM

Changed to Make/Use... more accurate

Quote:

Originally Posted by kunlun

"They make"

raywatch · 10 February 2019, 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Watcheroo

Don’t know about it being an investment, but I tried the AP ceramic PC and the thing is stunning! I’d probably go with that. My pic, not my watch:

Well guys thanks for the honest advice!! I decided to get this!!

See the photos!

absolutely amazing in person completely agree!

http://s44.photobucket.com/user/rayw...tml?sort=3&o=2

http://s44.photobucket.com/user/rayw...tml?sort=3&o=4

http://s44.photobucket.com/user/rayw...tml?sort=3&o=5

31 January 2019, 12:04 AM	#1
raywatch "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: Bangkok Posts: 36	What to buy next? FOR INVESTMENT AND PLEASURE Hello guys I would love to get some opinions from the forum. I currently have the following and I truly enjoy them daily: Patek 5980/1a 2009 AP 15407 2016 Lange datograph rose gold 2017 Rolex Batman 2018 Omega speedmaster 1866 2017 I have approx 170,000 USD budget - and in a position to buy 1-3 pieces new or used has to be either Patek, AP, Rolex, Richard Mille If you had this budget, what would be your next piece? What should i buy to get the best investment for the future 2-5 years in your opinion? I know at lot of you guys will say that watches are not for investment but all of my pieces are making very decent profit (except omega ) If I choose wisely maybe this trend will continue Watches i have in mind: RM 11-03 titanium RM 35-01 carbon (but prices already gone up so much) Other RMs that are not so common at used market with good future.. Rolex La Montoya (if only any of u know how to get it ) Patek 5270 blue dial (maybe - but cannot find) AP perpetual calendar ceramic 26579CE I know none of us really know but Any opinion would be great!

31 January 2019, 01:59 AM	#2
goog53 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Real Name: Mike G Location: Ohio Watch: Rolex-Patek-AP Posts: 3,060	The 35-01 or AP CE PC __________________ The only thing better than the watches are the people behind them. "The best watch in the world is the one that's on your wrist." Morgan King "Do you like having a good time? Then you need a good watch!" Rocky Balboa

31 January 2019, 03:10 AM	#6
77T 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Real Name: PaulG Location: Georgia Posts: 40,714	IMHO, not possible to know economic factors 2-5 years out. Prices could be flat by then. But my advice is pre-owned in Excellent condition, full sets, stay with Patek models you like, and no matter what - you will enjoy it and have best chance to preserve or from value. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro __________________ Does anyone really know what time it is?

31 January 2019, 04:55 AM	#8
stockae92 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Socal Posts: 4,881	For investment and pleasure, I would go with vintage Rolex SD, Sub, or Porsche 911 :) __________________ 135 ├┼┼╕ 246 R

31 January 2019, 05:13 AM	#9
mbalmz 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Real Name: marc Location: nyc Posts: 1,354	I’d buy a 5 year CD :) Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ _______________ ___________ _______ ___ instagram: @brooklynwatchguy

31 January 2019, 02:12 AM	#3
derekhayden "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: Texas Watch: Tudor BBGMT Posts: 772	Looks like the La Montoya can be ordered and custom made directly from their site. https://www.artisansdegeneve.com/en/...-montoya-gold/ I have no opinion on anything else as this is way out of my league.

31 January 2019, 03:06 AM	#5
brandrea 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Brian (TBone) Location: canada Watch: es make me smile Posts: 73,666	I'd but all the SS Daytona's I could get my hands, on at retail. Edit: or 5711 blue dials

31 January 2019, 03:45 AM	#7
capote "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Real Name: Daniel Location: Sweden Watch: 16570 Posts: 7,315	OP it sounds like you already have it figuered out

31 January 2019, 07:29 AM	#11
AK797 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Neil Location: UK Watch: ing ships roll in Posts: 59,225	You've made a lot of threads on which watches you should buy... how about some pics of the watches you actually have? What happened to the 5990 you owned, and didn't you say you were going to buy another investment Chrono last year?

31 January 2019, 04:41 PM	#15
Gaijin 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Japan Watch: ing your back. Posts: 16,180	I just clicked on this thread to see how many people were saying, "Watches are not investments!!" Sadly I was disappointed.

31 January 2019, 05:23 PM	#16
jenniferjanef "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,823	Any early RM specially those single digit are a good buy such as RM002 or RM005 (highest water resistance tonneau case RM)

31 January 2019, 05:28 PM	#17
TBJ Banned Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: United States Posts: 69	While in a lower price range than the pieces you have in mind, I would recommend considering adding an 18k Zenith Daytona to your collection.

31 January 2019, 08:57 PM	#18
yoast "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: HK Posts: 2,260	Patek 5170p __________________ IG: @yoast.watch https://www.instagram.com/yoast.watch/

1 February 2019, 03:26 PM	#21
CorradoBrit "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Europe bound Posts: 1,410	Montoya, who? Must be a Nascar thing cos he didn't do much in F1. Not exactly a Senna or Hamilton

1 February 2019, 11:42 PM	#22
ajas "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Real Name: Will Location: Kuala Lumpur Watch: SubC, Pam, Speede Posts: 3,140	It is a hobby, a commitment, you name it, definitely not investment forum.. Regardless how much you can spend ( Seiko or RM ) , ths forum is for watches passionates who are a bunch of friends, and share the same passion. If you can make a buck selling watch to buy next one you are hunting for, good on you. Majority of us probably won't as we use heart for this hobby, insted of brain. Lastly would you consider making commitment or friendship with mind set up how much you can make out of them. I don't. It is my passion. Sent from my SM-N935F using Tapatalk

2 February 2019, 01:55 AM	#23
Watcheroo 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: CT Posts: 3,912	Don’t know about it being an investment, but I tried the AP ceramic PC and the thing is stunning! I’d probably go with that. My pic, not my watch:

5 February 2019, 11:07 AM	#27
ap1 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: usa Posts: 19,041	5170p

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