Thoughts on this 5513 Bart Gilt?

[f22c]

Hey guys, what are your thoughts on this guy. Appreciate it!

https://ibb.co/hgKNHG5
https://ibb.co/wQnBDt1
https://ibb.co/3SS8h3B
https://ibb.co/nnysPxS
https://ibb.co/r48gbRt
https://ibb.co/wsTWfhG
https://ibb.co/JRjfD89
https://ibb.co/SB89GTz
https://ibb.co/QHXcdGj

[f22c]

Originally Posted by f22c

Hey guys, what are your thoughts on this guy. Appreciate it!

https://ibb.co/hgKNHG5
https://ibb.co/wQnBDt1
https://ibb.co/3SS8h3B
https://ibb.co/nnysPxS
https://ibb.co/r48gbRt
https://ibb.co/wsTWfhG
https://ibb.co/JRjfD89
https://ibb.co/SB89GTz
https://ibb.co/QHXcdGj

Bueller....

[BrazenC5]

First impressions:
- dial overall pleasant looking with light crazing..but its even
- should test the dial and hands with a uv light to see if it still glows for a short amount of time
- case looks to be fairly fat, crown guards are attractive
- insert appears to be an MK3, period correct would be an MK2 "long 5"
- date stamping on the bracelet doesn't look as sharp as other pics from the same period, not sure if its an indication either way of authenticity...it is a period correct bracelet.

Overall, presents very nicely, as with anything it depends on price vs condition. At expected price points, I would also look to confirm the serial matches the period for a bart/gilt 5513.

whats the asking price?

[f22c]

Originally Posted by BrazenC5

First impressions:
- dial overall pleasant looking with light crazing..but its even
- should test the dial and hands with a uv light to see if it still glows for a short amount of time
- case looks to be fairly fat, crown guards are attractive
- insert appears to be an MK3, period correct would be an MK2 "long 5"
- date stamping on the bracelet doesn't look as sharp as other pics from the same period, not sure if its an indication either way of authenticity...it is a period correct bracelet.

Overall, presents very nicely, as with anything it depends on price vs condition. At expected price points, I would also look to confirm the serial matches the period for a bart/gilt 5513.

whats the asking price?

Thanks!! Really appreciate it. I was just curious as to how common a crown that gold was. Regarding the bracelet, I didn’t think stampings were uneven like that...looked suspicious. Asking around $24K.

[roh123]

I’d say it is all about the gloss. Depending on that it could be anything from a 20k to a 40k watch. Very hard to judge from the pics. Feeling it is closer to 20k..

[BrazenC5]

You mean the coronet on the dial being discolored/degraded?

I've seen it before. Some/alot of older gilt dials will have issues...some worse than others. If dial damage is aesthetically pleasing, it can command a premium, most will devalue depending on current and future potential of damage.

Price is not crazy assuming everything is legit, but I would expect you can get it for less...as Per mentioned.

Get it authenticated before you decide.



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[f22c]

Originally Posted by roh123

I’d say it is all about the gloss. Depending on that it could be anything from a 20k to a 40k watch. Very hard to judge from the pics. Feeling it is closer to 20k..

Thanks...it’s interesting. With matte dials, it seems that over time, the dial just gets better, effectively increasing the value of the watch. However, with Gilt dials, it seems that the degradation is inevitable and therefore is actually decreasing its value overtime. True or not true?

[Lgear080]

Not the ideal 5513 for me... I think there are better examples at $20k. I specifically find the lume coloring a turn off, but everyone has an opinion. I see a lot of both matte and gloss dials out there - as far as aging goes I’m not sure what the long term outlooks are.

[roh123]

Originally Posted by f22c

Thanks...it’s interesting. With matte dials, it seems that over time, the dial just gets better, effectively increasing the value of the watch. However, with Gilt dials, it seems that the degradation is inevitable and therefore is actually decreasing its value overtime. True or not true?

There’s still great examples around. They do however command a much higher price.

[f22c]

Originally Posted by Lgear080

Not the ideal 5513 for me... I think there are better examples at $20k. I specifically find the lume coloring a turn off, but everyone has an opinion. I see a lot of both matte and gloss dials out there - as far as aging goes I’m not sure what the long term outlooks are.

There are? Please show me! All girls are $20+ unless the dial is absolutely a mess!

[f22c]

Originally Posted by f22c

There are? Please show me! All girls are $20+ unless the dial is absolutely a mess!

**GILTS.