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16 July 2021, 11:53 PM | #61 |
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I've owned a lot of cars the first one being a 1946 Pontiac while I was going to school in 1967. I owned muscle cars, a Hearse, Jeeps, and a bunch of boring SUVs as well. Never owned a foreign car yet.
I love driving my 2005 Jeep, with the top off and no real computer options, no power windows etc. I love the feel of driving something that takes my attention I can feel the road and keeps me present in the driving experience. I don't want something that makes me feel like I'm driving my living room down the road. That being said I also like driving my wife's 2019 SUV with too many options and computers as well. As with the upcoming EV revolution I think an ideal garage should have a fun ride AND a current more practical one sitting side by side. Since this may be something like what your kids will be riding in. https://newatlas.com/automotive/pini...bdff3-93122952
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17 July 2021, 02:08 AM | #64 |
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I cant wait till the driverless car is everywhere. Nap city!
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17 July 2021, 02:14 AM | #65 |
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No one talks about this, what's going to happen to the millions and millions of batteries after they have run their course in an electric car? That is potentially going to be a huge issue. So as far as less pollution from an electric car in the short term yes, as far as the long run who knows.....
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Newer cars are junk- am I the only one who thinks this?
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Would you have the same outcome on a track without set speed limits and traffic lights? Many car enthusiasts participate in some form of sport or performance driving be it SCCA, NASA, FD, ARA. Won’t knock your Alfa as it’s a great classic car and would even handle nicely in a classic car division, but would never come close to modern cars if it tried to compete in production class. Well unless the driver behind the modern car is a newbie. In which case the driver is the factor, not the car. |
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17 July 2021, 05:35 AM | #69 |
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Cheap, new cars, can be 'junk', but then.......they, always have been!
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The direct ignition cassette failed once on this, and early on it had a leak in the head gasket, which was fixed under warranty, but until recently it has been a real trooper. The mechanism for the manual heater control and air direction control were very poorly designed using cheap plastic parts, deep inside the heart of the car, which <of course> break and cannot be fixed without fashioning your own DIY contraptions, so rather than spend a grand to replace the whole heater box on a car that I am going to trade in someday, I have a cable sticking out of my dash that I can push in to move the blend door closed for cold air and pull it out to open the blend door for heat. The air direction is manually pushed into the defrost/floor setting and cannot be changed without pulling the whole thing apart and adjusting it again. |
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No worries. It is perfectly acceptable to put your gimme cap on the dash or fold the bill and put it in your back pocket.
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New cars don’t dissolve into rust after the first year.
You will actually survive most car accidents in a new car without being horribly disfigured or paralyzed. Literally the only people getting horribly injured these days are those too stupid to put on a seatbelt. New cars are reliable to a level that was unheard of 20 years ago. They are also ridiculously fast, average family cars can outrun performance cars from the 80s. |
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Agree with this. Sticking with my 400 HP NA V8 2014 Porsche Cayenne S. Just about 131k on the odometer, and not one single problem. Looks new. Greatest dang car I ‘ve ever owned. Will not part with until it goes kaput. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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then you have a person with a boat parked on a trailer in his back yard, now that must be a real dumbass. Quote:
Also, if you arrived at the same time, must be a route through neighborhoods and school zones, with speed bumps and stop signs. Make it a cross country trip on the autobahn, then tell me you arrived at the same time, the 911 will have plenty of time at the other end waiting for you to wonder why he's there so so far in advance "hmmmm"... It's common sense, me and my friend both went for a ride, he had his Ducati V4 and I had my Trek mountain bike and we both arrived at Walmart at the same tame, and I didn't even use gas....lolssss, come on. |
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“I don't even like old cars. I'd rather have a goddam horse. A horse is at least human, for God's sake.”
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Totally disagree. Today's cars are far and away the best in history. They are more comfortable, faster, handle better, are safer, get better gas mileage, require much, much less maintenance, and are infinitely more reliable than cars made even a decade ago. Not sure what else you could measure but it isn't even close.
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I think what people are missing is does the car have "soul".
Any many people find that new cars don't. People feel that way about digital vs analog music. About independent watches compared to mass produced ones. About mechanical watches compared to battery operated ones. About musical instruments over other musical instruments. Hand crafted furniture over mass produced furniture. Etc etc Some people get it and other's don't. Which is fine.
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Two different animals.
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Although new cars and trucks are supposedly superior in nearly every way I too prefer the analog feeling of older vehicles (trucks mostly). I could never exclusively drive a car daily. I simply crave the rougher drive of the truck, analog guages, dial type heater controls, stuff like that. In fact I really don't lust after anything new except maybe a new 4Runner or Ram diesel and even then I'm not sure.
While other enthusiasts are discussing media screens and stereo options I'm just hoping the next truck fits the dog comfortably and has enough cup holders. Heated seats would be nice too.
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I agree with you OP! The passion is gone and most modern designs are just plain ugly.
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If your getting any new car from a dealer after 2020 make it a lease, trade in 2-3 years, and repeat. With the insane electronics and auto eyes, everything will be more expensive then the car is worth to replace after a few years of ownership. Some of these features are now mandatory after 2021. The days of a good old car is gone unless your buying used and pre 95'. The environment will soon introduce eveyone to electric vehicles.
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My wife and I have only recently moved from stick shift to automatic, after driving nothing but sticks our entire lives. I miss the soul of older cars prior to computerization, but I can't for a minute argue that older models were better made than newer models.
It just isn't the case. The driving experience may have been abstracted too much recently, but the quality of the build is much better, with higher tolerances. Not to say both eras haven't had some real lemons as individual models. I am so glad my first real car was a 1983 5-speed VW GTI. I loved that thing.
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I like this a lot. Probably more than is reasonable. Perfect daily driver.
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Solid, simple, immune to "park-by-ear" idiots and morons who tailgate you and cut you off. They do so at their peril. If I could persuade the spouse to tolerate another vehicle it would be one of these - in rust-preventative red or grey - or both.
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18 July 2021, 11:34 PM | #90 |
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WAY too many gadgets/tech for my liking.
Long term they break and age like an tv episode of ‘Bullseye’ As one British journalist remarked: “Gadgets add weight, cost and complication. Do you want to drive a car or play with it?” |
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