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firstnamejim · 4 January 2012, 06:32 PM

This one look pretty bad, I think it is not genuine. Please post your opinion. Thank you.

Pictures are attached, and posted here as well
http://www.flickr.com/photos/7349643...in/photostream

bondtoys · 4 January 2012, 07:08 PM

Fake.

There is no thing like a blue protecting foil with Rolex.
Additionally, the movement is crap.

Andad · 4 January 2012, 07:11 PM

Absolute rubbish Jimbo.
Crush it soon.

mcjp6 · 4 January 2012, 08:27 PM

This watch is counterfeit....

Please give us the link.

LeotheLion · 4 January 2012, 08:59 PM

Fake . firstnamejim2 posted the pictures shown on flickr.com ??

mrbill2mrbill2 · 4 January 2012, 09:24 PM

POS!

padi56 · 4 January 2012, 09:28 PM

Its a fake thats for sure its got a ETA 2836 movement to start, or it could be even the Chinese copy of the ETA 2836.

bayerische · 4 January 2012, 10:08 PM

Junkus.

Nothing looks good on it.

What's the story?

firstnamejim · 5 January 2012, 01:00 AM

I took and posted the pictures on flickr. I am in dispute with the seller. And will let you know of the result.

RedBaronF2001 · 5 January 2012, 01:08 AM

I could see why many would be fooled by this one.

jayys2 · 5 January 2012, 03:54 AM

Fakee!

1340jas · 5 January 2012, 04:02 AM

Fake and a poor one at that.

usbzoso · 5 January 2012, 04:06 AM

Definitely a fake but far from junk/pos given the swiss made ETA 2836-2 movement which is a solid workhorse and could last as long as a real Rolex movement ... this fake probably worth around $300

mrbill2mrbill2 · 5 January 2012, 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedBaronF2001

I could see why many would be fooled by this one.

I don't. You don't need to be an expert to see the poorly fabricated bracelet. Not to mention all the other flaws.

mrbill2mrbill2 · 5 January 2012, 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by usbzoso

Definitely a fake but far from junk/pos given the swiss made ETA 2836-2 movement which is a solid workhorse and could last as long as a real Rolex movement ... this fake probably worth around $300

To me any fake is a POS.

zacharylough · 5 January 2012, 09:30 AM

Looks all great to me, but mvmnt is a give away. Rolex does not use the 2836-2 in the Submariner I believe it is the 3135 for pre 1166** models, and for 1166** models it is 3136 mvmnt. Since that is suposedly ceramic it would have to be the 3136. So in light of that it is not real. The dial and external features are just phenominal though. If the back was not open for view, I would have said that watch was real!

linesiders · 5 January 2012, 10:09 AM

2836 is a pretty good movement though this is probably an Asian "Swiss" ETA 2836-2 which probably works fine as well

Many of the mid grade fakes use that movement

Alcan · 5 January 2012, 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by firstnamejim

I am in dispute with the seller.

I can't imagine what the dispute would be. Nothing about that watch is of Rolex manufacture, from the poorly executed bezel to the ETA movement.

RedBaronF2001 · 5 January 2012, 10:15 AM

Hopefully you paid via PayPal so you can destroy it and get your money back!

PayPal dispute ends in violin destruction

crowncollection · 5 January 2012, 01:28 PM

fake for sure

mcjp6 · 5 January 2012, 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by firstnamejim

I am in dispute with the seller.

If you need any assistance, please let me know.

MonBK · 5 January 2012, 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by usbzoso

Definitely a fake but far from junk/pos given the swiss made ETA 2836-2 movement which is a solid workhorse and could last as long as a real Rolex movement ... this fake probably worth around $300

Where are you coming from, it's not worth anything.

Andad · 5 January 2012, 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zacharylough

Looks all great to me, but mvmnt is a give away. Rolex does not use the 2836-2 in the Submariner I believe it is the 3135 for pre 1166** models, and for 1166** models it is 3136 mvmnt. Since that is suposedly ceramic it would have to be the 3136. So in light of that it is not real. The dial and external features are just phenominal though. If the back was not open for view, I would have said that watch was real!

Please tell me you are joking.

The dial marker surrounds, the bezel engraving, the bracelet finish, the clasp, the endlinks, the movement etc etc are complete rubbish.

bondtoys · 5 January 2012, 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by linesiders

2836 is a pretty good movement though this is probably an Asian "Swiss" ETA 2836-2 which probably works fine as well

Do you really think, that that movement is genuine? It's as fake as the entire watch!

Quote:

Originally Posted by linesiders

Many of the mid grade fakes use that movement

There is no thing like a "fake-grade".
Fakes are Fakes - no matter how you rate them.

And by the way, that is a very bad one.

bondtoys · 5 January 2012, 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by directioneng

Please tell me you are joking.

The dial marker surrounds, the bezel engraving, the bracelet finish, the clasp, the endlinks, the movement etc etc are complete rubbish.

Not to mention the remains of the blue protecting film from the bracelet....

TSW · 5 January 2012, 10:01 PM

POS to me!

cajunron · 6 January 2012, 12:56 AM

POS, fake, trash, rubbish, kaakaa, fugazi, fakee, etc., etc..

cajunron · 6 January 2012, 01:03 AM

[QUOTE=bondtoys;2977193]Do you really think, that that movement is genuine? It's as fake as the entire watch!

I agree.

robertneville · 6 January 2012, 01:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by directioneng

Please tell me you are joking.

The dial marker surrounds, the bezel engraving, the bracelet finish, the clasp, the endlinks, the movement etc etc are complete rubbish.

X2 not even close. to suggest a mid-grade replica is crazy. no matter how good they look, they are all trash!

linesiders · 6 January 2012, 04:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bondtoys

Do you really think, that that movement is genuine? It's as fake as the entire watch!

There is no thing like a "fake-grade".
Fakes are Fakes - no matter how you rate them.

And by the way, that is a very bad one.

No, I don't think that movement is a genuine swiss made ETA - hence the "Asian" tags. As for the fake, I've seen worse & better. Macht nichts

4 January 2012, 07:11 PM	#3
Andad 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: Eddie Location: Australia Watch: A few. Posts: 36,801	Absolute rubbish Jimbo. Crush it soon. __________________ E

4 January 2012, 09:24 PM	#6
mrbill2mrbill2 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Real Name: Mr. Bill Location: South Florida Watch: 16610 Posts: 6,148	POS! __________________ Card Carrying Member of the Global Association of the Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons - ID # 13

4 January 2012, 09:28 PM	#7
padi56 "TRF" Life Patron Join Date: Jun 2005 Real Name: Peter Location: Llanfairpwllgwyng Watch: ing you. Posts: 52,266	Its a fake thats for sure its got a ETA 2836 movement to start, or it could be even the Chinese copy of the ETA 2836. __________________ ICom Pro3 All posts are my own opinion and my opinion only. "The clock of life is wound but once, and no man has the power to tell just when the hands will stop. Now is the only time you actually own the time, Place no faith in time, for the clock may soon be still for ever." Good Judgement comes from experience,experience comes from Bad Judgement,.Buy quality, cry once; buy cheap, cry again and again. www.mc0yad.club Second in command CEO and left handed watch winder

4 January 2012, 10:08 PM	#8
bayerische "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Andreas Location: Margaritaville Watch: Smurf Posts: 19,879	Junkus. Nothing looks good on it. What's the story? __________________ Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

5 January 2012, 01:28 PM	#20
crowncollection "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: David Location: australia Posts: 20,157	fake for sure __________________ watches many

4 January 2012, 07:08 PM	#2
bondtoys "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: World Watch: 16750 Posts: 2,719	Fake. There is no thing like a blue protecting foil with Rolex. Additionally, the movement is crap.

4 January 2012, 08:27 PM	#4
mcjp6 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Real Name: Michael Location: VK2 - AUS Watch: 5513s Posts: 7,380	This watch is counterfeit.... Please give us the link.

4 January 2012, 08:59 PM	#5
LeotheLion Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Real Name: Dennis Location: England Watch: GMT2 and Datejust Posts: 440	Fake . firstnamejim2 posted the pictures shown on flickr.com ??

5 January 2012, 01:00 AM	#9
firstnamejim "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Real Name: Jim Location: Ohio Posts: 6	I took and posted the pictures on flickr. I am in dispute with the seller. And will let you know of the result.

5 January 2012, 01:08 AM	#10
RedBaronF2001 Member Join Date: May 2008 Real Name: Chris Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 575	I could see why many would be fooled by this one.

5 January 2012, 03:54 AM	#11
jayys2 Banned Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Canada Posts: 18	Fakee!

5 January 2012, 04:02 AM	#12
1340jas "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: Jason Location: Wales Watch: SS Sub Date 'V' Posts: 199	Fake and a poor one at that.

5 January 2012, 04:06 AM	#13
usbzoso Banned Join Date: Apr 2011 Real Name: Stan Location: Dallas Watch: 16610/16600/16800 Posts: 1,231	Definitely a fake but far from junk/pos given the swiss made ETA 2836-2 movement which is a solid workhorse and could last as long as a real Rolex movement ... this fake probably worth around $300

5 January 2012, 09:30 AM	#16
zacharylough Banned Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Ohio-USA Watch: GMTIIC SubC LV Posts: 142	Looks all great to me, but mvmnt is a give away. Rolex does not use the 2836-2 in the Submariner I believe it is the 3135 for pre 1166 models, and for 1166 models it is 3136 mvmnt. Since that is suposedly ceramic it would have to be the 3136. So in light of that it is not real. The dial and external features are just phenominal though. If the back was not open for view, I would have said that watch was real!

5 January 2012, 10:09 AM	#17
linesiders 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: RedSox Nation Watch: U Talkn Bout Wilis Posts: 5,425	2836 is a pretty good movement though this is probably an Asian "Swiss" ETA 2836-2 which probably works fine as well Many of the mid grade fakes use that movement

5 January 2012, 10:15 AM	#19
RedBaronF2001 Member Join Date: May 2008 Real Name: Chris Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 575	Hopefully you paid via PayPal so you can destroy it and get your money back! PayPal dispute ends in violin destruction

5 January 2012, 10:01 PM	#26
TSW "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: TSW Location: Le Brassus Watch: Rolex & AP's Posts: 27,449	POS to me! __________________ AP Owners Club IG @swiss.watch.connection

6 January 2012, 12:56 AM	#27
cajunron 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 X2 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Ronnie Location: Southeastern USA Watch: Omega Seamaster PO Posts: 3,853	POS, fake, trash, rubbish, kaakaa, fugazi, fakee, etc., etc.. __________________

6 January 2012, 01:03 AM	#28
cajunron 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 X2 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Ronnie Location: Southeastern USA Watch: Omega Seamaster PO Posts: 3,853	[QUOTE=bondtoys;2977193]Do you really think, that that movement is genuine? It's as fake as the entire watch! I agree. __________________

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