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10 December 2019, 01:21 AM | #61 |
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[QUOTE=Exploradori;10189961]Genuine question: given the huge market manipulation that we have seen in the Rolex market, can the company be taken to court? I'm not a lawyer but I would really like to hear from people familiar with consumer protection laws in the different countries. I know that false advertising is prosecuted by the law. I know that discrimination is too. Not to talk about market manipulation.
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You could probably try sue Rolex USA under North American law, but I'm not sure what for - and you would most certainly lose. Rolex SA advertises, accurately, watches it manufactures. There is no false advertising just because supply exceeds demand. Nor does a retailer have to sell you anything. Certainly not in Europe, or, I believe, in the USA. Not selling you a watch because of race would be in contravention of consumer laws. Not selling you a watch because you haven't spent $100,000 on jewelery with that store is not. And anyway, that would be a case against the AD, not Rolex SA (or USA) Consumer laws are there to protect you about the misrepresentation of what a product actually is or does, and its merchandisable quality. They are not there to protect the consumer's feelings becase you have been teased with adverts for items which are hard to procure from the AD network. Apologies if this response comes across somewhat harshly, but to suggest Rolex could be taken to Court for not manufacturing enough watches to meet overall demand is ridiculous IMO.
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10 December 2019, 06:40 AM | #64 |
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Every time I quit coming to this forum because of nonsense like this.
I wait a few days and come back, and this is the first thing I see. SMFH. |
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I strongly recommend you spend your money on a lawyer and get this into action ASAP. |
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These threads attacking Rolex, greys, ADs are ridiculous. Why are people so angry that they can't buy a luxury item at a low price?
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Good grief.
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10 December 2019, 08:49 AM | #69 |
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Lawsuit to get a few stainless steel sports watches
OP is probably better off suing the Epstein estate and buy Pateks with the payout.
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10 December 2019, 09:21 AM | #72 | |
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Yes, you can sue them. No, you won’t win. They advertise current watches they are producing. As a company they can manufacture as many watches in a year as they want. They can absolutely advertise a watch and make one per year if they choose. The lawsuit would have no legal ground to win. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro |
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Not sure if the law in the E.U. and FSA countries - but if such a suit was initiated - could the loosing party be responsible for legal expenses? Steve Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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Unless Rolex promised them a certain number of a specific watch as part of the contract, they are guilty of nothing. Now if they are in breach of contract by not supplying watches they promised as part of the contract they can be sued for breaching the agreement. I’d imagine they have done no such thing. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro |
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I hope this is not is this a serious post.
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I don’t know whether to laugh or cry. Again, for those who came in late, Rolex is a private foundation without an owner or shareholders. To answer your 4 questions in order.
You have no standing to take them to court at least in the US You’re not even close on a consumer protection, false advertising or discrimination claim Zero elements for a legitimate case. Manufacturers do not control markets, consumers do Absolutely No in the US. But in Europe? I defer to my colleagues across the pond. |
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Well not exactly. Antitrust case law is full of examples. Last century, the diamond market was entirely controlled by De Beers. The monopoly no longer exists, but diamond prices were driven by them vs. consumers. Microsoft and others learned lessons too. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
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10 December 2019, 12:34 PM | #79 |
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Can Rolex be sued?
Agree! As you suggest above, the problem would be that Rolex, unlike De Beers or Microsoft, has tons of competitors. Which would eliminate an antitrust case. You have to show the defendant has control over the market and the market won’t be defined as Rolex watches - it would be defined as watches or, if a Plaintiff got lucky, luxury watches.
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