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Old 22 May 2019, 10:54 PM   #1
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Beware of Michael White (MAWhite)

Received a threatening email from this guy.
Just wanted to let everyone know we don't go along with threats being held to ransom:

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All I wanted was my account reinstated on a site I’ve rarely posted on for ten years.

Agree to disagree, call it a misunderstanding and reinstate my account or I’ll have a little project to work on.

I’m sure I’ll remember to add something about my situation here every time I visit the sites where I am much more active and respected.

How this ends is up to you.
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Old 22 May 2019, 11:00 PM   #2
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Did he try to scam anyone? I don't see why posting his full address on a public forum is needed; especially if his account is closed and he can't use it to contact anyone.
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Old 22 May 2019, 11:01 PM   #3
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You don't send threatening emails to anyone do you?
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Old 22 May 2019, 11:02 PM   #4
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Of course not. Just don't see why his full address needs to be printed out for anyone to search against.
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Old 22 May 2019, 11:10 PM   #5
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Threats like this are unacceptable and I agree we all need to be aware. I never considered how our Admin and Mods could be threatened over banning someone.




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Old 22 May 2019, 11:14 PM   #6
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Of course not. Just don't see why his full address needs to be printed out for anyone to search against.
So you think people who make personal threats to your family deserve the protection of anonymity?
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Old 22 May 2019, 11:17 PM   #7
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So you think people who make personal threats to your family deserve the protection of anonymity?
If he threatened your family, you should take action beyond posting here. That's a VERY different situation.

Based on the email above, his plan seems to just be to bad-mouth this forum on other watch forums. Unless there's more to the story?

IDK...it's early and I haven't had coffee yet. Just posting my thoughts.
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Old 22 May 2019, 11:20 PM   #8
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TRF is my family.

So you approve and encourage these kinds of threats so they escelate?

And advocate the concealment of the identity of those who engage in that conduct?
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Old 22 May 2019, 11:23 PM   #9
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I don't see how questioning posting up his full address on a public forum equals me approving and encouraging his actions? I find that email disgusting.

But that's all for me in this thread. I feel you're taking my comments incorrectly.
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Old 23 May 2019, 12:43 PM   #10
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Threatening emails is an instant and permanent ban. It may also be a crime.

What goes through the mind of somebody like this.
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Old 23 May 2019, 01:42 PM   #11
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I thought you were not allowed to post private messages on this forum?
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Old 23 May 2019, 01:45 PM   #12
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I don't see how questioning posting up his full address on a public forum equals me approving and encouraging his actions? I find that email disgusting.

But that's all for me in this thread. I feel you're taking my comments incorrectly.
I think he is taking your comments the wrong way. I do not see how posting private info is allowed at all.
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Old 23 May 2019, 04:09 PM   #13
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Threatening emails is an instant and permanent ban. It may also be a crime.

What goes through the mind of somebody like this.
that particular message isn't a criminal threat, according to the prosecutor I just showed it to. she says it's closer to extortion but again it falls short

But -- I'm not second guessing this thread. Even if legal, that message is far outside the bounds of civility and decency
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Old 23 May 2019, 06:55 PM   #14
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The threat notwithstanding, where did the address come from? Has it been validated to come from the sender of the threat? I would be concerned about inadvertently SWATing someone, which could turn into a greater liability for the forum than the promise of slander contained in the threat. My $0.02.
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Old 23 May 2019, 07:08 PM   #15
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The threat notwithstanding, where did the address come from? Has it been validated to come from the sender of the threat? I would be concerned about inadvertently SWATing someone, which could turn into a greater liability for the forum than the promise of slander contained in the threat. My $0.02.
Agree.

A step further. Even if this is his address please nobody do anything to this individual. I would edit out his home address. Fast.
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Old 23 May 2019, 11:28 PM   #16
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Old 23 May 2019, 11:51 PM   #17
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This is a little troubling...
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Lol-x is a barrister and a senior partner in a law firm.

He also owns this place.

If he wants to do this, he can.
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Old 24 May 2019, 01:23 AM   #19
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Does "can" = "should" though?

Now knowing his occupation, I can find Steve's home info in a matter of minutes (if even that). Would he be OK if I posted it to other forums he doesn't have access to?
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The threat notwithstanding, where did the address come from? Has it been validated to come from the sender of the threat? I would be concerned about inadvertently SWATing someone, which could turn into a greater liability for the forum than the promise of slander contained in the threat. My $0.02.
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Agree.

A step further. Even if this is his address please nobody do anything to this individual. I would edit out his home address. Fast.
Staying out of all this, but figured I'd look up the property and the name in the first post matches the owner of the property per the County Property search website.
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Old 24 May 2019, 02:26 AM   #21
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Lol-x is a barrister and a senior partner in a law firm.

He also owns this place.

If he wants to do this, he can.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.541062383a0c

Just saying.
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Old 24 May 2019, 03:22 AM   #22
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I am doubtful that such a case would be valid under Australian common law.

In Australia, no jurisdiction has enshrined in legislation a cause of action for invasion of privacy.
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Old 24 May 2019, 03:24 AM   #23
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Does "can" = "should" though?
David Hume admirer?
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Old 24 May 2019, 04:16 AM   #24
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David Hume admirer?
I honesty don't even know who that is. But I will look them up now.
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Old 24 May 2019, 04:25 AM   #25
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I honesty don't even know who that is. But I will look them up now.
You should. I mean could.
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Does "can" = "should" though?

Now knowing his occupation, I can find Steve's home info in a matter of minutes (if even that). Would he be OK if I posted it to other forums he doesn't have access to?
Yeah no kidding. For someone to think it is okay tends to shine a different light on their judgement.
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Old 24 May 2019, 09:25 AM   #27
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I donít think this post is out of line at all.
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Old 25 May 2019, 12:17 AM   #28
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Mr. White was clearly making a threat and that is always grounds for banning. I'm a retired lawyer and know a threat when I see one.
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Old 25 May 2019, 12:32 AM   #29
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Mr. White was clearly making a threat and that is always grounds for banning. I'm a retired lawyer and know a threat when I see one.
As a former lawyer, let's say Steve came to you as a potential client. He tells you that someone has threatened to bad mouth his website on other websites. You gonna take the case as actionable?

I don't see anyone here questioning the banning.
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As a former lawyer, let's say Steve came to you as a potential client. He tells you that someone has threatened to bad mouth his website on other websites. You gonna take the case as actionable?

I don't see anyone here questioning the banning.
Possibly.
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