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Old 6 May 2019, 01:54 AM   #1
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Differences between Rolex and Tudor Movements

Could someone please describe the basic differences between Rolex and in-house Tudor movements? Is a Rolex movement more complicated with additional components, are the movement materials cheaper, are there fewer jewels, are the machining tolerances of Rolex parts finer? How much of the cost difference is due to the movement in relation to the case and band? Does a Tudor watch use less skilled handwork?
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Old 7 May 2019, 06:53 AM   #2
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I'd love to hear what anyone has to say about this.
I just got my first Tudor (Blue Pelagos) and the feel of the movement was sooo different, I was really surprised.

Also, the date sets by turning the crown CCW, which was weird!
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Old 7 May 2019, 11:58 AM   #3
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I know that the new Tudor movements have the ball bearings on the self-winding rotor, like the new 32 series Rolex movements.
They also both have a full bridge instead of a one sided balance cock. But so did the 3135. And maybe before that.

These are similarities, not differences I know. But you can cross those two off!
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Old 20 May 2019, 03:52 PM   #4
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I read this article a while back that compares Tudor and Rolex production
https://www.gq-magazine.co.uk/articl...-watch-factory

Rolexes advertises accuracy to +/-2 sec per day and Tudor to -2/+4.
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Old 24 May 2019, 09:31 AM   #5
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Excellent article. Thank you.
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Old 24 May 2019, 10:15 PM   #6
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Old 25 May 2019, 12:16 AM   #7
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The new in-house Tudor movements are actually incredibly accurate. They use silicon balance springs which are very stable timekeepers. The construction of certain elements of the movement is similar to their Rolex counterparts. The reversing wheels in the automatic work are the same style of construction that Rolex use.

I have partially disassembled one of the automatic movements and can say that the execution overall is cheaper than a Rolex movement.

The wheels are not as sturdy in their construction, and neither are the bridges. They are more similar to an ETA style movement in that respect. Having said that, they have a very respectable power reserve and as already stated, are very good timekeepers.

They have one HUGE draw-back in my opinion. That is the fact that they cannot be serviced. They are exchange only. When you send the watch in, even for a warranty repair the whole movement is replaced with a refurbished model and then COSC records are updated to match.
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Old 25 May 2019, 12:24 AM   #8
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The new in-house Tudor movements are actually incredibly accurate. They use silicon balance springs which are very stable timekeepers. The construction of certain elements of the movement is similar to their Rolex counterparts. The reversing wheels in the automatic work are the same style of construction that Rolex use.

I have partially disassembled one of the automatic movements and can say that the execution overall is cheaper than a Rolex movement.

The wheels are not as sturdy in their construction, and neither are the bridges. They are more similar to an ETA style movement in that respect. Having said that, they have a very respectable power reserve and as already stated, are very good timekeepers.

They have one HUGE draw-back in my opinion. That is the fact that they cannot be serviced. They are exchange only. When you send the watch in, even for a warranty repair the whole movement is replaced with a refurbished model and then COSC records are updated to match.
I've read this is standard procedure for new movements as a way for manufacturers to review any possible future changes.
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Old 25 May 2019, 12:31 AM   #9
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I've read this is standard procedure for new movements as a way for manufacturers to review any possible future changes.
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As far as I am aware it has to do with cost and lack of qualified watchmakers. It is very common among other brands, but certainly not Rolex. All new Rolex movements are serviced, as opposed to replaced. It all has to do with de-skilling the industry and keeping turnaround times lower.
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Old 25 May 2019, 04:31 AM   #10
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So no need to send the watch in for service...

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That is the fact that they cannot be serviced. They are exchange only. When you send the watch in, even for a warranty repair the whole movement is replaced with a refurbished model and then COSC records are updated to match.
So the service intervals of around 5 years is not because of oils drying up. Itエs for Tudor to make more money!

Such crap! I really do not like to put my money into "buy and throw away" items. Hope it keeps running for 20 years then!
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I read this article a while back that compares Tudor and Rolex production
https://www.gq-magazine.co.uk/articl...-watch-factory

Rolexes advertises accuracy to +/-2 sec per day and Tudor to -2/+4.
Great info, thank you.
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They are exchange only. When you send the watch in, even for a warranty repair the whole movement is replaced with a refurbished model and then COSC records are updated to match.
That answers the when to service question for Tudor. Wear till it dies, thanks for the info!
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They have one HUGE draw-back in my opinion. That is the fact that they cannot be serviced. They are exchange only. When you send the watch in, even for a warranty repair the whole movement is replaced with a refurbished model and then COSC records are updated to match.
I don't know much about Tudor but their website talks about having your Tudor Serviced and it doesn't say anything about replacement. It only talks about disassembly and cleaning. Re-lubricating and replacing worn parts. Is that not what is done?
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Old 2 June 2019, 12:43 PM   #15
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They have one HUGE draw-back in my opinion. That is the fact that they cannot be serviced. They are exchange only. When you send the watch in, even for a warranty repair the whole movement is replaced with a refurbished model and then COSC records are updated to match.

This is the first time I have seen this said and as a Tudor fan I generally read everything I see related to Tudor. Do you have evidence of this because if it's a "have on good authority" or "my AD told Me" I'd be calls BS on this. It also doesn't fit with everything that is known about the brand and parent brand.



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Old 2 June 2019, 08:47 PM   #16
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I am an ex-Rolex watchmaker who worked in the warranty section of the service department and personally swapped Tudor in-house movements. Trust me, this is not the kind of thing you will read in a press release on their website!
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