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ddnyc77 · 21 March 2012, 01:36 PM

trolling around ebay and i came across this, amazing how some people can sit on these watches for years.... this is beautiful, I wouldn''t be able to bring my self to wear it.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ROLEX-EXPLOR...item4844812d0f

cruvon · 21 March 2012, 01:39 PM

Looks nice. Don't know much about the 1655 but seems like the dial had a relume or a service replacement if is luminova?

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DIAL: BLACK, MK7 LUMINOVA "SWISS"

jlee5050 · 21 March 2012, 01:39 PM

Wow... probably the best one I've seen yet...

T-Rip · 21 March 2012, 01:39 PM

Amazing....no.. STUNNING

greekbum · 21 March 2012, 01:42 PM

Unbelievable is right

Am I missing something? It has a service dial and hands,white date wheel, no pics of the serial or ref# or case back, end links are wrong and its at 12k already

Frogman4me · 21 March 2012, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by greekbum

whats so nice about it?

Am I missing something? It has a service dial and hands,white date wheel, no pics of the serial or ref# or case back, end links are wrong and its at 12k already

+1, I see nothing special about it.

Dr. Robert · 21 March 2012, 01:55 PM

I wear my renovated ones (bought new by me & my dad) regularly........

cruvon · 21 March 2012, 01:56 PM

Looking again at the bidders identities, I get very suspicious when the identities are private(is that a selectable option in ebay now?, normally is in s****y format I thought), could be the seller and his friends bumping the auction up. Don't see why anyone would pay so much for one with service replacements (nothing against service replacements from Rolex, a watch can still look nice with them, just that originals are more desirable and where the money is)

http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.d...m=310386961679

ddnyc77 · 21 March 2012, 01:58 PM

pretty good guys. I and a complete novice with vintage, now I remember why vintage scares me.

eddie_b · 21 March 2012, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by greekbum

Unbelievable is right

Am I missing something? It has a service dial and hands,white date wheel, no pics of the serial or ref# or case back, end links are wrong and its at 12k already

+1 I wonder how many of the bidders are aware of that

Kingair · 21 March 2012, 04:27 PM

Probably none . . . . .
And at that price I would expect a 'correct' (numbers, bracelet, end links, etc) watch.

Scary Hat · 21 March 2012, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ddnyc77

pretty good guys. I and a complete novice with vintage, now I remember why vintage scares me.

That's why you buy the seller, not the watch. Vintage Rolex is a trap for the unwary and those trying to get up to speed, like myself.

Tom

Lol-x · 21 March 2012, 05:18 PM

It is a good looking watch but the luminova dial and white date wheel are big issues in terms of originality.

The caseback sticker is surprising

Keeperoftime · 21 March 2012, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by greekbum

Unbelievable is right

Am I missing something? It has a service dial and hands,white date wheel, no pics of the serial or ref# or case back, end links are wrong and its at 12k already

+1

I've seen this listed on ebay several times too.

Mark020 · 21 March 2012, 10:13 PM

For sure. Last time I saw it it 'went' for 13k or so.

onkyo · 22 March 2012, 12:08 AM

Nice watch but most favor an original dial ... not that there is any 'wrong' with a luminova service dial.

azguy · 22 March 2012, 12:13 AM

If you like minty watches and do not care as much about originality its' perfect.

To me it's like classic cars; one guy like matching number engine, tranny and rear-end with the same color on the car as it left the factory. Another guy could care less if the car left the factory white and now it's red with a brand new crate motor, etc....

To each their own

swish77 · 22 March 2012, 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by azguy

If you like minty watches and do not care as much about originality its' perfect.

To me it's like classic cars; one guy like matching number engine, tranny and rear-end with the same color on the car as it left the factory. Another guy could care less if the car left the factory white and now it's red with a brand new crate motor, etc....

To each their own

Well said! This listing bothers me because the seller doesn't mention that the dial and hands are service replacements, which is HUGE for a vintage watch, of course. Sure, there's one reference to luminova, but for an uniformed buyer that might not set off alarm bells. Seems slightly sneaky in the way the watch is presented in the listing.

greekbum · 22 March 2012, 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by swish77

Well said! This listing bothers me because the seller doesn't mention that the dial and hands are service replacements, which is HUGE for a vintage watch, of course. Sure, there's one reference to luminova, but for an uniformed buyer that might not set off alarm bells. Seems slightly sneaky in the way the watch is presented in the listing.

The bezel? and with no pics of the case back it too could be a service as this serial number should have a dated case back.There is nothing wrong with Rolex service parts on a watch IMHO if that's what you expected and wanted.

Scary Hat · 22 March 2012, 04:14 AM

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Originally Posted by greekbum

Unbelievable is right

Am I missing something? It has a service dial and hands,white date wheel, no pics of the serial or ref# or case back, end links are wrong and its at 12k already

Awesome catch, Nikos!
I wish I had the skill and knowledge base to be able to do what you do!

Another reason to buy the seller and not the watch, right?

Tom

conrail · 22 March 2012, 05:20 AM

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Originally Posted by swish77

Well said! This listing bothers me because the seller doesn't mention that the dial and hands are service replacements, which is HUGE for a vintage watch, of course. Sure, there's one reference to luminova, but for an uniformed buyer that might not set off alarm bells. Seems slightly sneaky in the way the watch is presented in the listing.

Hopefully people aren't dropping $12k on something where they don't know the difference between a luminova SWISS dial and an original dial...

Keeperoftime · 22 March 2012, 05:40 AM

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Originally Posted by conrail

Hopefully people aren't dropping $12k on something where they don't know the difference between a luminova SWISS dial and an original dial...

Of course they are...

They will then run to Rolex forums and ask how wonderful their piece is

.

There are quite a few people with more money than sense. Whether this is "Collecting" or "Common" sense. (Hint: Bernie Madoff Watch Collection).

P.S

I'm not saying this watch is worthless or anything. Its my opinion, I could find a better example for 12K.

FremStar · 22 March 2012, 05:44 AM

John/Ken HELP!!!! I have just contacted the seller on ebay right now! Not the T<25 I have been looking for but could be an option!!! OP thanks for posting this!

Edit- There are 25 bids on it already and seconds to go!!! WTF! I keep missing out!!!

azguy · 22 March 2012, 05:54 AM

6 minutes left

$12,100 and going, going......

Keeperoftime · 22 March 2012, 06:01 AM

Fini, $12,100

conrail · 22 March 2012, 06:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Keeperoftime

Of course they are...

They will then run to Rolex forums and ask how wonderful their piece is

.

There are quite a few people with more money than sense. Whether this is "Collecting" or "Common" sense. (Hint: Bernie Madoff Watch Collection).

P.S

I'm not saying this watch is worthless or anything. Its my opinion, I could find a better example for 12K.

Right on - Madoff watch collection is a classic example of more money than sense. Couple nice pieces but mostly gaudy garbage

FremStar · 22 March 2012, 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Keeperoftime

I could find a better example for 12K.

Really? Show me

. I have have had Eric Ku and Andrew Shear as well as one gent in New Hampshire looking for a complete set for me going on a few years now. If you can find this example I will buy it... No quibble!

greekbum · 22 March 2012, 06:17 AM

Look in the TRF for sale section compare that 1 to this 1.

Keeperoftime · 22 March 2012, 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by FremStar

Really? Show me

. I have have had Eric Ku and Andrew Shear as well as one gent in New Hampshire looking for a complete set for me going on a few years now. If you can find this example I will buy it... No quibble!

Your asking some of the top dealers to find you a nice piece...
you realize they make a profit ...

Revised below:

I am saying, that in my opinion I could find a better example to suit my needs. Did you buy the watch on ebay...

FremStar · 22 March 2012, 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by greekbum

Look in the TRF for sale section compare that 1 to this 1.

I research the 4 sale section like I am studying for the Bar exam. Similar to the conversation I had with John yesterday, no offense to you, however, I am not a fan of the Albino hand! I have seen your offering plenty of times.

21 March 2012, 01:36 PM	#1
ddnyc77 Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: nyc Posts: 425	Unbelievable... trolling around ebay and i came across this, amazing how some people can sit on these watches for years.... this is beautiful, I wouldn''t be able to bring my self to wear it. http://www.ebay.com/itm/ROLEX-EXPLOR...item4844812d0f

21 March 2012, 01:39 PM	#4
T-Rip "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2011 Real Name: Tom Location: Victorville CA Watch: Rolex DSSD 116660 Posts: 3,189	Amazing....no.. STUNNING __________________ T-Rip Formally known as Haydendillon Rolex: DSSD 116660, 16622 PLATTY

21 March 2012, 01:42 PM	#5
greekbum "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Real Name: Nikos Location: Florida Watch: Rolex GMT 16750 Posts: 8,415	Unbelievable is right Am I missing something? It has a service dial and hands,white date wheel, no pics of the serial or ref# or case back, end links are wrong and its at 12k already __________________ Follow Me On Instagram @nickgogas Original Owner ROLEX 16750 GMT Daily Wearer For Over 13,000 Days And Counting

21 March 2012, 01:55 PM	#7
Dr. Robert 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: Bob Location: U.S.A. Watch: 1655 Posts: 61,851	I wear my renovated ones (bought new by me & my dad) regularly........ __________________ Founder & Card Carrying Member of the Global Association of Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons

21 March 2012, 01:56 PM	#8
cruvon "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Australia Posts: 4,688	Looking again at the bidders identities, I get very suspicious when the identities are private(is that a selectable option in ebay now?, normally is in s****y format I thought), could be the seller and his friends bumping the auction up. Don't see why anyone would pay so much for one with service replacements (nothing against service replacements from Rolex, a watch can still look nice with them, just that originals are more desirable and where the money is) http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.d...m=310386961679 __________________ Last thing I remember, I was Running outta sight I had to find the passage back,To the place I was before. ’Relax,’ said this Rolex place,We are programmed to receive. You can checkout any time you like, But you can never leave!

21 March 2012, 01:39 PM	#3
jlee5050 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Los Angeles Watch: the throne. Posts: 165	Wow... probably the best one I've seen yet...

21 March 2012, 01:58 PM	#9
ddnyc77 Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: nyc Posts: 425	pretty good guys. I and a complete novice with vintage, now I remember why vintage scares me.

21 March 2012, 04:27 PM	#11
Kingair "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: Marc Location: SoCal Watch: Not enough ;-) Posts: 21,232	Probably none . . . . . And at that price I would expect a 'correct' (numbers, bracelet, end links, etc) watch.

21 March 2012, 05:18 PM	#13
Lol-x Facilitator Join Date: Nov 2005 Real Name: Steve Location: Omnipresent Posts: 33,270	It is a good looking watch but the luminova dial and white date wheel are big issues in terms of originality. The caseback sticker is surprising __________________ *Most folks are about as happy as they make up their minds to be.* ~Abraham Lincoln Nothing compares to the simple pleasure of a bike ride. ~John F. Kennedy ROLEXploitation - yeah I'm a victim

21 March 2012, 10:13 PM	#15
Mark020 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Amsterdam Posts: 2,095	For sure. Last time I saw it it 'went' for 13k or so.

22 March 2012, 12:08 AM	#16
onkyo Banned Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: Pav Location: Manhattan Posts: 11,495	Nice watch but most favor an original dial ... not that there is any 'wrong' with a luminova service dial.

22 March 2012, 12:13 AM	#17
azguy Banned Join Date: Sep 2011 Real Name: ------- Location: ------- Watch: --------- Posts: 12,609	If you like minty watches and do not care as much about originality its' perfect. To me it's like classic cars; one guy like matching number engine, tranny and rear-end with the same color on the car as it left the factory. Another guy could care less if the car left the factory white and now it's red with a brand new crate motor, etc.... To each their own

22 March 2012, 05:44 AM	#23
FremStar "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Real Name: Sam Location: Gotham City Watch: Wall Street Posts: 9,954	John/Ken HELP!!!! I have just contacted the seller on ebay right now! Not the T<25 I have been looking for but could be an option!!! OP thanks for posting this! Edit- There are 25 bids on it already and seconds to go!!! WTF! I keep missing out!!! __________________ "Wealth is of the heart and mind, not of the pocket!" "A Watch Is An Emotional Object, And So, It Is The Responsibility Of The Brand To Create Emotion Through It's Products" - Georges Kern "In the 1950s and 60s, they made the Ref 8171, which is a cult collectible—now that’s the ultimate Rolex you could own with a calendar and a moon phase.” - John Reardon "Heh, heh, heh..." - Michael Kilyung

22 March 2012, 05:54 AM	#24
azguy Banned Join Date: Sep 2011 Real Name: ------- Location: ------- Watch: --------- Posts: 12,609	6 minutes left $12,100 and going, going......

22 March 2012, 06:01 AM	#25
Keeperoftime "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Real Name: Jeremy Location: Louisiana Watch: Rolex Posts: 2,732	Fini, $12,100 __________________ As a man is, so he sees. As the eye is formed, such are its powers. William Blake

22 March 2012, 06:17 AM	#28
greekbum "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Real Name: Nikos Location: Florida Watch: Rolex GMT 16750 Posts: 8,415	Look in the TRF for sale section compare that 1 to this 1. __________________ Follow Me On Instagram @nickgogas Original Owner ROLEX 16750 GMT Daily Wearer For Over 13,000 Days And Counting

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