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Old 9 May 2017, 07:33 AM   #1
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WatchOut SCAM,SCAM Alert, Jarton Same Guy as AlbertGregg!!!!

Hi Guys,

Jarton, Username Scam Alert!!

Please Read!!!!!

I'll try to make this brief but want to give as many details as possible:

Watch out with this ad:

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=535620

This is a Scam I'm 100% sure , this is the same guy that scammed a few members here a few weeks ago under the username AlbertGregg , thread here:

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=532049

OK so before posting this I did my work and will share it with you guys:

So how do I know this is the same Mot$$%er scammer (sorry I hate scammers)

Facts:

1-AlbertGregg had a signature message "Enjoy your lifetime", Jarton has the following message "Be yourself, everyone else is already taken" ~Oscar Wilde this is to make us think they're good guys etc etc.

2-Everytime AlbertGregg wanted to bump his ads instead of posting ,bump,TTT,Price reduction etc, he posted "Still looking", Jarton is doing the same.

3-He has a reference on the Who's who section from member "Clinton_L", that member also joined on Sep 16, Clinton_L also left feedback for member Raymond.M ,Raymond.M was banned because he didn't provide the requested pics from a moderator on his ad, his Ad was also for a 116610LN and guess what all his bumps were the same words "Still looking", Raymond.M left feedback for members Salesman08 and GeoffRobb , the sites shows no member with those usernames.

4-There's no transaction to support that feedback, and also provided a link to a feedback on other website from a guy that had only 2 posts and there was no transaction to support that feedback, Albert gregg did the same and provided a timetechtalk reference from a guy with just a few posts that guy was also banned from that website.

5-They both work the same way they post a watch for sale after a few days they mark it as sold and then post another ad to scam members, AlbertGregg did it with a GMT 116710LN and Jarton did the same with an Explorer II 16570.

6-All of these members posts are the same short replies, Congrats,Nice,Great,And single words most of them in the word associaton thread, clearly working on the post count.

Ok so Since he seemed suspicious to me I sent him a PM, this was his reply:

Quote:
Originally Posted by epc2
Hi,

How old is this watch?did you buy it new or second hand?
Where are you located?

Thanks.
Hey,

The watch was purchased 2013, the official warranty until 2018, I am the original owner located in MD.

-First red flag: In 2013 Rolex watches didn't have a 5yr warranty!!

I then send a 2nd PM, and here's his reply:

It loses thirteen seconds a day,just a minor scratch on the bracelet and some micro hairlines on the bracelet and some tiny micro hairlines on the sides.
Yes I have references. I have purchased watches from Takuya (Thanh) and Justrolexes (Tony.) I also sold on this forums (Explorer.) I have also been a seller on eBay since 2009 with 100% feedback and on GOAT (an app for high priced sneakers) since it came out.

Thanks again in advance, I appreciate it

-You might think oh what a nice and honest guy he's telling me that the watch loses 13 seconds and has a few scratches!!.

So I contacted both Than and Tony, Guess what ,none of them have done business with him.

-So I decided to go further and asked a friend of mine to email him and start a negotiation:

You remember that on his PM he said he was from MD.

This is what he said on the emails:

Thanks for contacting me, the watch was purchased 2013, official warranty until 2018, never been polished or serviced, comes complete with warranty card.
The watch was purchased from a US AD, watch is in excellent condition.
Let me know where you are located and if you are still interested.

Regards,
Jarton.

Sent from my iPad

2nd email:

Thanks for getting back, I am in NC, I accept wire for this deal, i have references, do you have references?
Let me know if you are still interested.

Thanks,
Jarton.

-Then he said that he's in NC!!!

His reply was exactly like Albert Gregg, thanks for contacting me etc.Same writing etc , here's a quote from one of AlbertGregg's Pm's so you can see what I'm talking about:

Thanks for contacting me, watch iis named and dated 2016, there are no histories of scratches or marks on the watch, keeps good time of +/-2 seconds per day, my price is negotiable and am looking for straight sales only, I have references upon request, do you have references?
Let me know if you are still interested via email for quick response.

Regards,
Albert Gregg.

OK here's where it gets even worse, last night a moderator did a spot check on his ad an requested some pics, today he uploaded the pics but he was quick deleting one of the pics , since I'm subscribed to the thread I got the notification and Immediately checked the ad and he uploaded a pic of a watch with stickers on the 9'oclock side , he edited immediately and deleted that pic( I hope a mod can have access to that) , but you can see that the last pic of the watch he's trying to cover the side of the case on the 9 o'clock side and cropped the pic.

So in order to confirm it was him my friend offered him paypal +fees, google wallet etc and he said wire only so he sent him a lowball and guess what he accepted saying that after deliberation he was going to accept the offer which was $800 less than his asking price.

After he said he was in NC he then sent a bank address from Baltimore, MD , my friend asked him why if he said he was on NC and his name was Jarton he sent him an account in MD under a different name, Trend Riddick is the name he provided , he never replied back.

Guys sorry for the long Post I just don't want any of you to get scammed by this thief, I feel like a detective right now lol , but we have to watch our backs , these scammers are getting good.

*To the mods I've been in contact with sorry if I broke any rules, I felt like I needed to post this before somebody sees the pics and believe his real and gets scammed.

Also check these pics before he edits the ad:

First pic, check all the dirt on the SEL, dirty watch by the way.
Second pic new watch no Dirt on the SEL
Third pic "Still looking "Bump Jarton
4th pic "Still looking "Bump Raymond.M
5th pic a 2013 Watch with the new warranty card!!

I hope all this info helps avoid any of you guys get scammed by this scammer.

Thanks.


PS:Pics. to follow for some reason I can't upload them right now the system is not allowing me,
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Old 9 May 2017, 07:36 AM   #2
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pics., dirty lug and new one.
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Old 9 May 2017, 07:37 AM   #3
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Old 9 May 2017, 07:38 AM   #4
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Old 9 May 2017, 08:08 AM   #5
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Wow, fantastic work epc2.

It's a shame people have to go to such great lengths to protect themselves and others from the more unscrupulous members of society
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Old 9 May 2017, 08:17 AM   #6
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Most people in the states don't write the date that way.
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Old 9 May 2017, 08:27 AM   #7
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Thanks for the heads up!
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Old 9 May 2017, 09:14 AM   #8
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Great work, thanks for looking out!
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Old 9 May 2017, 12:43 PM   #9
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Most people in the states don't write the date that way.
Sure they do.... on August 5th.

Well done on the sleuthing OP!
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Old 9 May 2017, 10:23 PM   #10
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Old 10 May 2017, 12:13 AM   #11
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I have been exchanging emails w/ this guy for the past couple days. He told me that his name was Jarton Riddick from Maryland. Told me he had bought the watch in 2016 from an AD and was in excellent condition. I asked for references and realized that one them Had been banned From here. After Mailman posted a scam alert on his sale add I started doing a little more research and came across this thread. So I decided to play the game. Since I'm from Richmond-VA. I offered him $5,900 and a face to face transaction in Maryland. Never got anything back from him until this morning saying...

Him: "yes, when are you taking the drive?"
Me: "where in MD?"
Him: "yes, when are you taking the drive?"
Me: "if you can tell me where in MD I can give you an ETA. Please send me your cell#.
Him: " nevermind, deal is off"

Clear shows whoever he is, he's up to no good.
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Old 10 May 2017, 01:20 AM   #12
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Old 10 May 2017, 02:41 AM   #13
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i contacted him 2 weeks ago by email and I asked for better pictures. I wondered why he didn't have a straight picture of the watch, like he was hiding something...

I have yet to contact him...
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Old 10 May 2017, 08:02 PM   #14
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Old 11 May 2017, 04:12 PM   #15
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Great Job! You probably saved somebody here some money from getting scammed.
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Old 11 May 2017, 11:23 PM   #16
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Old 12 May 2017, 01:29 AM   #17
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Old 12 May 2017, 03:15 AM   #18
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but how was he able to advertise on here...name, phone number, email...I contacted him via email...
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Old 21 May 2017, 01:00 AM   #19
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Guys Watchout he's back:

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=539253

Attractive price
Same kind of description
Same crappy pics,he's now adding a Lume pic
Same Just USA Location with no state.
Same just email to contact no phone etc.
Same way to reply to emails
Starts a WTB thread ,and then replies, found thanks TRF , all of the previous usernames did the same, like to gain confidence.
Same low post count and all of them short replies like congrats , nice and most of them in the Word associaton thread ,like working on the post count.

Hope I'm wrong but Watchout, to me it looks like the same scammer.

Be safe.
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Old 21 May 2017, 01:49 AM   #20
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Old 21 May 2017, 01:57 AM   #21
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Guys Watchout he's back:

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=539253

Attractive price
Same kind of description
Same crappy pics,he's now adding a Lume pic
Same Just USA Location with no state.
Same just email to contact no phone etc.
Same way to reply to emails
Starts a WTB thread ,and then replies, found thanks TRF , all of the previous usernames did the same, like to gain confidence.
Same low post count and all of them short replies like congrats , nice and most of them in the Word associaton thread ,like working on the post count.

Hope I'm wrong but Watchout, to me it looks like the same scammer.

Be safe.
Notify the mods.
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Old 21 May 2017, 02:37 AM   #22
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Notify the mods.
Adam's on it
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Old 21 May 2017, 02:46 AM   #23
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I've been in contact with another member that contacted him in the past, definetly same guy , even gave same references emails to him , watchout guys he also has a Panerai for sale here on the Non Rolex section.

Same loser, scammer.
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Old 21 May 2017, 03:05 AM   #24
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"Housing stainless steel Features Waterproof,watch in excellent condition, not polished."

That quote is a red flag..
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Old 21 May 2017, 03:11 AM   #25
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Guys,

Check out this thread:

A few similarities with the scammer in the way to describe the watches,location,misinformation,quotes etc.

If it's the same guys he's doing it in lots of forums he's a plague.

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=539240
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You are all over this guy like a cheap suit

Keep up the good work!
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Old 21 May 2017, 03:16 AM   #27
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You are all over this guy like a cheap suit

Keep up the good work!

Yeah I hate scammers, just trying to help.
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Old 21 May 2017, 04:33 AM   #28
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thanks for keeping a vigilant eye!
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Old 24 May 2017, 10:32 PM   #29
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Hi Guys,

This is just my opinion , if any of you guys are interested in this watch do your work but IMO this is the same guy, AGAIN:

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=539748

Let me try to make this as brief as possible:

-Same kind of pics
-Attractive price again
-Email only
-Posted a WTB ad first followed by found "Thanks TRF"
-Now he's listing paypal as an option but once you tell him you're interested in it with paypal he just doesn't reply.
-Look at the traces when he wrote "Jarton" and now with the new username , he tried to write the letters different but the traces looks very similar to my eyes.
-Same kind of posts
-Another member contacted him and as soon as he asked for references he justed stopped responding.

And last:

The pics on the original post you can clearly see that the watch listed still has the plastics next to the crown, on the last pic requested by the mod it doesn't look like it has any plastics , different watch IMO., also he didn't put the date as requested.
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Old 24 May 2017, 10:36 PM   #30
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Pics in original post look at the plastics next to the crown.

New pic , looks like no plastics!! Different watch maybe!!!

You can try to write the letters different but the traces are there, to my eyes they look very similar, I can be wrong but that's what I think.
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