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Old 23 September 2019, 12:39 PM   #1
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Vintage glit dial 1600 datejust, choices...





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Old 23 September 2019, 12:42 PM   #2
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I have the chance to buy this 1968 1600 black GILT dial datejust
Dial is beautiful

I can buy it with michael chang restored d link bracelet with all links and fluted white gold bezel

Or period correct folded link also restored and engine turned bezel.

I like the d link and engine turn but considering collectability which would you choose?

Thanks in advance!
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Old 23 September 2019, 12:43 PM   #3
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Shouldn't a 1600 have a smooth bezel?
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Old 23 September 2019, 12:51 PM   #4
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Sorry, I just took a close look at your photos, and the dial is not convincing to me. If you look at the text closely, it's really sloppy.
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Old 23 September 2019, 12:53 PM   #5
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Not worried about dial, i love it.
1600 is smooth but wondering which of the options i posted as the threads titled work the best together.

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Old 23 September 2019, 01:06 PM   #6
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Well, you mentioned collectibility in your first post, so that's why I mentioned the dial. But if you love it, then buy it. I'd suggest you take the same approach with the bezel and bracelet, since they are truly just matters of personal taste.
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Old 23 September 2019, 01:14 PM   #7
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Explain “not convincing” not convinced of what?

Anyways thanks for your input

This is a place of fun discussion if everyone replied the way you did what is the point of discussing watches!

Any other suggestions out there? :)
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Old 23 September 2019, 01:23 PM   #8
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I'm not sure why you are adopting that tone, since I only tried to help. I'm sorry you don't like my responses. I will bow out and let others provide their opinions.
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Old 23 September 2019, 01:59 PM   #9
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Watch is a franken
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Old 23 September 2019, 02:06 PM   #10
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Care to elaborate?
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Old 23 September 2019, 02:09 PM   #11
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Watch was also serviced at rolex in 2017, am i wrong thinking they don't service “franken” watches?
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Old 23 September 2019, 03:47 PM   #12
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Gilt?

Take a macro shot of the fonts. If the fonts are on top of the black paint, it is not a gilt dial.

BTW, your watch isn't a 1600. it's a 1603 (look at the bezel )
a 1600 should have a smooth bezel.
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Old 23 September 2019, 04:07 PM   #13
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This doesn’t look like a gilt dial at all. It is marked Swiss which should be correct for a early 60s gilt but the dial looks like a re-print. If the papers are correct then I expect the dial was switched after the service.


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Old 23 September 2019, 04:08 PM   #14
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https://i.imgur.com/lxajVNi.jpg

Its a 1600

Just looking for opinions on which combo would look better as i cant decide, folded and engine turn or dlink and fluted ?
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Old 23 September 2019, 04:09 PM   #15
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Old 23 September 2019, 04:10 PM   #16
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Better shot of dial?
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Old 23 September 2019, 04:18 PM   #17
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I have recently returned an 1803 with similar gold fonts on a black dial as the dial was aftermarket. Tread carefully. Check the big sellers sites, like HQ Milton where you can compare many.
Also best not to flame others who are responding to your request for help.
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Old 23 September 2019, 04:33 PM   #18
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Personally, I much prefer the engine turned bezel.

If you want thoughts on gilt dial, get a macro shot of the lower SCOC text, preferably in a raking slanted light. In that last shot, the dial looks darker around the lower SCOC text, but could be a photo artifact.
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Old 23 September 2019, 04:52 PM   #19
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Better shot of dial?
Yours is a 1600 with a 1603 bezel. It appears that yours is a matte dial T Swiss T.

See if yours is anything like my gilt:


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Old 23 September 2019, 05:22 PM   #20
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It is a redial imo.
Look at “certified”. Pretty obvious there.

PS: OP, you are asking for opinions....be ready to hear what you don't wanna hear.
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Old 23 September 2019, 06:15 PM   #21
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First little hint is that you will not see a gold coronet on the dial on a steel watch. :)
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Old 23 September 2019, 06:35 PM   #22
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First little hint is that you will not see a gold coronet on the dial on a steel watch. :)
Also, these hands paired with this coronet...if I may add.
Best case scenario this watch is a franken with a redial.


The real deal should look like this:
https://www.hqmilton.com/timepieces/...gilt-dial-4866
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Old 23 September 2019, 11:08 PM   #23
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looking again on a larger screen laptop. There is a stranger rectangular shaded area larger than that of the lower text looking like dial has been cleaned.
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Old 24 September 2019, 05:47 AM   #24
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looking again on a larger screen laptop. There is a stranger rectangular shaded area larger than that of the lower text looking like dial has been cleaned.
That is just a reflection of the lens on the phone used to take the picture.
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Old 24 September 2019, 05:52 AM   #25
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Oh, since it is a 1600 it should have a smooth bezel, anything else is wrong. The dial is not what I would expect or want either.
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