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Old 13 October 2019, 10:32 PM   #1
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16750Pepsi Insert forced decolorization question

What is the difference between forced discoloration and spontaneous discoloration?

Can you tell them apart?

Are naturally discolored inserts glossy?

Now I have a new Pepsi Insert product.

It's so new that it's far from a vintage image right now, so I'm going to try to bleach it by force.

Should I just use it and wait until it's naturally bleached?
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Old 13 October 2019, 11:10 PM   #2
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What is the difference between forced discoloration and spontaneous discoloration?

Can you tell them apart?

Are naturally discolored inserts glossy?

Now I have a new Pepsi Insert product.

It's so new that it's far from a vintage image right now, so I'm going to try to bleach it by force.

Should I just use it and wait until it's naturally bleached?
You can't have spontaneous discolouration, the genuine change in the colour is an ageing process; the two you describe are used by Charlatans to deceive the naive.
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Old 13 October 2019, 11:21 PM   #3
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You can't have spontaneous discolouration, the genuine change in the colour is an ageing process; the two you describe are used by Charlatans to deceive the naive.
How much time does it take to age and become discolored?
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Old 13 October 2019, 11:29 PM   #4
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Forcing desaturation of color is tricky. It has to be both even and the right hue.
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How much time does it take to age and become discolored?
Decades
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Old 14 October 2019, 12:07 AM   #6
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If you want the distressed look instantly, then buy a vintage one from a trusted seller on the secondary market

I have noticed however that a lot of 16750s inserts that i have viewed, do tend to keep vibrant colours pretty well

Here is my original red backed insert from 1984




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Old 14 October 2019, 01:02 AM   #7
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You can bleach your insert to give a faux aged look. It won't look exactly like one that is naturally aged, but it might match your watch better than a shiny new insert. Just insert in a bleach solution, watch it carefully, and remove and rinse when you are happy with how it looks. There are plenty of forum posts describing the process for various bezels and inserts. Use google.
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Old 14 October 2019, 02:28 AM   #8
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Don't fake it. You can invest in a faded one for not a whole lot. Someone here has fastened to a board on their roof, that would probably get yours looking "good" quickly.

If you bleach it, everyone can tell its bleached, its just different. Search this forum for examples the experts can tell at first glance. Also, the underside (blue or red) will fade as well and that's a dead giveaway.
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Old 14 October 2019, 08:05 AM   #9
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What is the difference between forced discoloration and spontaneous discoloration?

Can you tell them apart?

Are naturally discolored inserts glossy?

Now I have a new Pepsi Insert product.

It's so new that it's far from a vintage image right now, so I'm going to try to bleach it by force.

Should I just use it and wait until it's naturally bleached?




I think the Seiko forum guys would be a better help to you then us.
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Old 16 October 2019, 03:15 PM   #10
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Don't fake it. You can invest in a faded one for not a whole lot. Someone here has fastened to a board on their roof, that would probably get yours looking "good" quickly.

If you bleach it, everyone can tell its bleached, its just different. Search this forum for examples the experts can tell at first glance. Also, the underside (blue or red) will fade as well and that's a dead giveaway.


This is good advice and I’d recommend this approach too. The joy of having natural faded insert is just different and fulfilling.


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I faded with bleach. They look stupid. I did a black one that looks good but that’s about it. Pay a few hundred bucks and get a faded one naturally.


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