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Mrngrz46 · 11 January 2021, 09:07 AM

Hi folks,
many rumors are now summing up about 5712 and 5711 soon to be discontinued. Not clear to me if we will see a new version or not.

I bet movement upgrade but definitely those model has to stay.

What’s your thought ?

WWC · 11 January 2021, 02:15 PM

I heard about the 5711 rumor but not the 5712. Would you happen to have the source and the info for that one?

Soondooboo · 11 January 2021, 02:48 PM

"many rumors" from where?

taylorhall · 11 January 2021, 05:47 PM

My AD has stated rumors for 5712 discontinuation for a while (years).

yessir69 · 12 January 2021, 06:44 AM

I heard a rumor that most rumors are not true.

Rushne · 12 January 2021, 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by yessir69

I heard a rumor that most rumors are not true.

I heard a rumour saying that the rumour about rumours not being true, is a rumour.

Ubiquitous1984 · 12 January 2021, 07:50 AM

I hope not. I’m picking mine up on Friday!

yessir69 · 12 January 2021, 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Rushne

I heard a rumour saying that the rumour about rumours not being true, is a rumour.

Well played sir.

chiscott_29 · 12 January 2021, 07:54 AM

I think the source of the rumors very likely could be found to originate from dealers asking $75k+ for a 5712 and $80k for a 5711.

taylorhall · 12 January 2021, 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiscott_29

I think the source of the rumors very likely could be found to originate from dealers asking $75k+ for a 5712 and $80k for a 5711.

Bingo!

HMHM · 12 January 2021, 09:02 AM

I mean... so what if it’s discontinued? The 6000g was replaced by the 6006g and the look 99% identical. The Daytona 116520 was replaced by the 116500 and they look kinda similar except for the bezel. Old things get replaced by newer ones. I don’t see why we need to pay over the top money to buy something that’s about to be phased out.

chiscott_29 · 12 January 2021, 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HMHM

I mean... so what if it’s discontinued? The 6000g was replaced by the 6006g and the look 99% identical. The Daytona 116520 was replaced by the 116500 and they look kinda similar except for the bezel. Old things get replaced by newer ones. I don’t see why we need to pay over the top money to buy something that’s about to be phased out.

C'mon...what's with this common sense??!!

In today's market, up is down. Down is up. Discontinued means a 50% price increase!!!

fsprow · 12 January 2021, 10:09 AM

I believe this is a rumor about a rumor about a rumor.

Soondooboo · 13 January 2021, 01:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiscott_29

I think the source of the rumors very likely could be found to originate from dealers asking $75k+ for a 5712 and $80k for a 5711.

Can always expect a dealer to say something like "this model will pop it's getting discontinued soon"...smh

bob101 · 13 January 2021, 01:40 AM

Certainly had more of a run than the 3712. Can’t do much more to it movement wise. It’s perfect. But I think it may be time to call a day on it and introduce a new 5712 for limited time only. Then they can concentrate on ramping up the 5726 blue dia till it too is discontinued. An expansion of 5990 offering seems likely to help replace. (/speculation)

subtona · 13 January 2021, 01:52 AM

agree with above, movement is serviceable well into the future.

would be a nice throw back if they returned to the monocoque case.

bob101 · 13 January 2021, 02:08 AM

By limited Ed. 5712 thinking of a full rose gold version for one or two years then done. Perfect way of ending a beautiful ref.

Mrngrz46 · 14 January 2021, 06:44 AM

Source is an official Patek dealer in Zurich.
Expected time is next year.

Calatrava r · 14 January 2021, 08:50 AM

There is a 5711 now online for 92K. Says its is unworn, but the market may sense something.

martinr · 14 January 2021, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Calatrava r

There is a 5711 now online for 92K. Says its is unworn, but the market may sense something.

Same place has a 5712 with Tiffany on the dial for close to 200K. If someone buys it then there’s proof common sense has been discontinued.

chiscott_29 · 14 January 2021, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by martinr

Same place has a 5712 with Tiffany on the dial for close to 200K. If someone buys it then there’s proof common sense has been discontinued.

Surprise...It’s EWC. I’m not trying to disparage these guys as they clearly take care of customers and have a great reputation. But honestly, I am dumbfounded as to who buys there. Their prices are, across the board, insane. On everything.

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Mrngrz46 · 15 January 2021, 02:27 AM

Guys, mad or not if that price are there means someone buy. Maybe not exactly that much but in that ballpark.

ts3 · 15 January 2021, 02:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Calatrava r

There is a 5711 now online for 92K. Says its is unworn, but the market may sense something.

If EWC knew that this specific watch is a rare transitional model manufactured for a few months only (old 324 movement but new dial) ...

eskiserkan · 15 January 2021, 05:38 AM

Crazy asking prices for a SS watch which is not better than Rolex Submariner. Good luck for Patek 57 lowers. 15202st looks bargain when compared to 5711.

arocksworld · 16 January 2021, 01:12 AM

I just got my 5711 so I'am ok with it getting discontinued lol. But I've been hearing about this for 2 years now. I am sure they will update the movement.

SL BRABUS · 16 January 2021, 04:11 AM

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Originally Posted by eskiserkan

Crazy asking prices for a SS watch which is not better than Rolex Submariner. Good luck for Patek 57 lowers. 15202st looks bargain when compared to 5711.

Also 5167 looks like a bargain when compared to 5711....

WWC · 16 January 2021, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by SL BRABUS

Also 5167 looks like a bargain when compared to 5711....

I agree with this, however it’s hard to compare an Aquanaut vs. a Nautilus.

Mrngrz46 · 17 January 2021, 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by WWC

I agree with this, however it’s hard to compare an Aquanaut vs. a Nautilus.

you are right but do not underestimate aquanaut because when compared to the nautilus is considerably fresh design: way less 70s, more sporty, portable and light.

edhahn44 · 17 January 2021, 08:24 AM

When does PP normally announce the discontinued models? Is it expected also to happen this year?

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jamestucker · 17 January 2021, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by edhahn44

When does PP normally announce the discontinued models? Is it expected also to happen this year?

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Normally end of January, not sure what will happen this year

11 January 2021, 09:07 AM	#1
Mrngrz46 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Switzerland Posts: 450	5712 1a soon discontinued Hi folks, many rumors are now summing up about 5712 and 5711 soon to be discontinued. Not clear to me if we will see a new version or not. I bet movement upgrade but definitely those model has to stay. What’s your thought ?

11 January 2021, 02:15 PM	#2
WWC "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Home Posts: 1,434	I heard about the 5711 rumor but not the 5712. Would you happen to have the source and the info for that one? __________________ Royal Oak 15500ST Master Calendar METEORITE Q1552540 \| Luminor GMT PAM 00335 Aquanaut 5167A-001 \| Nautilus 5712/1A-001 Cosmograph DAYTONA 116520 \| DEEPSEA 126660 \| Explorer 214270 \| GMT Master II BLRO 16710 \| GMT Master II VTNR 126720 \| Submariner LV 16610 \| Sky-Dweller 326139 \| Prince Oysterdate 90630

12 January 2021, 07:54 AM	#9
chiscott_29 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: USA Watch: Rolex, ALS, Omega Posts: 1,231	I think the source of the rumors very likely could be found to originate from dealers asking $75k+ for a 5712 and $80k for a 5711. __________________ __________________

13 January 2021, 01:52 AM	#16
subtona "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: gus Location: East Coast Watch: APK & sometimes Y Posts: 25,987	agree with above, movement is serviceable well into the future. would be a nice throw back if they returned to the monocoque case. __________________

11 January 2021, 02:48 PM	#3
Soondooboo "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2020 Location: San Francisco Posts: 122	"many rumors" from where?

11 January 2021, 05:47 PM	#4
taylorhall "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Earth Posts: 82	My AD has stated rumors for 5712 discontinuation for a while (years).

12 January 2021, 06:44 AM	#5
yessir69 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2011 Real Name: Kevin Location: Tornado Alley Posts: 3,212	I heard a rumor that most rumors are not true.

12 January 2021, 07:50 AM	#7
Ubiquitous1984 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: UK Posts: 288	I hope not. I’m picking mine up on Friday!

12 January 2021, 09:02 AM	#11
HMHM "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2019 Real Name: HM Location: 🇲🇾 Posts: 2,351	I mean... so what if it’s discontinued? The 6000g was replaced by the 6006g and the look 99% identical. The Daytona 116520 was replaced by the 116500 and they look kinda similar except for the bezel. Old things get replaced by newer ones. I don’t see why we need to pay over the top money to buy something that’s about to be phased out.

12 January 2021, 10:09 AM	#13
fsprow "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2018 Real Name: Frank Location: Dallas,NY,Colo. Watch: Patek 5168, 5170P Posts: 2,397	I believe this is a rumor about a rumor about a rumor.

13 January 2021, 01:40 AM	#15
bob101 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 559	Certainly had more of a run than the 3712. Can’t do much more to it movement wise. It’s perfect. But I think it may be time to call a day on it and introduce a new 5712 for limited time only. Then they can concentrate on ramping up the 5726 blue dia till it too is discontinued. An expansion of 5990 offering seems likely to help replace. (/speculation)

13 January 2021, 02:08 AM	#17
bob101 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 559	By limited Ed. 5712 thinking of a full rose gold version for one or two years then done. Perfect way of ending a beautiful ref.

14 January 2021, 06:44 AM	#18
Mrngrz46 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Switzerland Posts: 450	Source is an official Patek dealer in Zurich. Expected time is next year.

14 January 2021, 08:50 AM	#19
Calatrava r 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: United States Watch: Rolex and Patek Posts: 10,580	There is a 5711 now online for 92K. Says its is unworn, but the market may sense something.

15 January 2021, 02:27 AM	#22
Mrngrz46 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Switzerland Posts: 450	Guys, mad or not if that price are there means someone buy. Maybe not exactly that much but in that ballpark.

15 January 2021, 05:38 AM	#24
eskiserkan "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Bursa Watch: 116500LN Posts: 493	Crazy asking prices for a SS watch which is not better than Rolex Submariner. Good luck for Patek 57 lowers. 15202st looks bargain when compared to 5711.

16 January 2021, 01:12 AM	#25
arocksworld "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2021 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1	I just got my 5711 so I'am ok with it getting discontinued lol. But I've been hearing about this for 2 years now. I am sure they will update the movement.

17 January 2021, 08:24 AM	#29
edhahn44 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2019 Real Name: Eduard Location: Europe Posts: 331	When does PP normally announce the discontinued models? Is it expected also to happen this year? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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