14060 > 3000 vs 3135 Movement Value and Perception

[bluemartinifan]

Hey Movement Experts!
I am researching the 3000 movement housed in the A serial (1999) 14060 I recently acquired. BTW - my 3000 movement operates within COSC standards .

My research has not found any "flattering" reports on the 3000 - I do see terms like "workhorse", "simple", "effecient". The 3000 applied to 14060s circa 1990-2000, and Explorers and AKs in unknown by me time period.

I learned that the upgraded 3130 (2000/2001) is distinguished from the 3000 by several features; both beat at 28,000bph, but the 3130 uses a balance bridge rather than a balance cock and also has a Breguet overcoil hairspring, and has a new style of reversers, making it more efficeint than the 3000.

MY QUESTIONS: Is there a perceived or real difference in collecting a 14060 with the 3135 vs the 3000?
Was the 3000 designed as a cost effective lower end movement? Do experts view the 3000 as a quality movement in the Rolex lineage?

FYI - I do not see significant price differences for a 14060 K or Y that houses the 3130 vs what I paid for my A serial w/ the 3000. (i.e. 3185 vs 3186 GMTs)

Thank you for your thughts!

[padi56]

Its the 3130 not 3135 but both movements fine and both very capable of COSC standard.The main difference with the 3000 and the 3130 is its got a full balance bridge, larger balance wheel breguet overcoil basically its now a cal 3135 without the date complication.But the cal 3000 was fitted in the Explorer now that was COSC tested but the non date sub was not, exactly the same movement in every way.Both movements are excellent in accuracy and longevity of life and very little between them myself like the 3000.As for collectability well the 14060 with the Tritium dial would be a good future bet.And anyone paying extra for say a watch with the 3186 over the 3185 IMHO must be sixpence short of a shilling.

[Tools]

I don't think that your research is complete.. There has only been one unflattering report on the 3000...The much disputed Odets review of an older Explorer...but he ended with all those attributes you mention. His biggest criticism seemed to be that it "wasn't hand finished to the degree he was accustomed to for a watch of that price range" (paraphrased)

The 3000 is essentially the same movement used today but was the last of the Rolex in-house movements upgraded with the, before mentioned, full bridge, larger balance wheel and breguet overcoil to become the 3130..

There is no advantage or disadvantage with collecting a 14060 over a 14060M, keeping in mind that the 14060 with the 3000 was the upgrade from the earlier 5513..

[bluemartinifan]

Thank you mods. This is why I love this forum - no where else in the world can we get topic specific, timely, quality information of this sort from trusted sources.

My title was wrong - should have read :
14060 > 3000 vs 3130 Movement Value and Perception

[mike]

Ha! Since I'm late and Peter and Larry answered all your questions perfectly I'll just say you have the last of a very special breed of iconic tool watch.

[-martin-]

Thank you for everyone who contributed to this thread. You have helped me on my journey to my first Rolex.

Thanks to Rolex Forums for existing!

[Gerry62]

my 14060 SWISS ser U works whit the mov. 3000 and is a perferct

They are 2 excellent mov

[james1787]

I've had my 14060 with the 3000 movement. Absolutely no issues with it whatsoever. When I brought it in for its first service... (and it was 12 years old already), it was only running at +3. Not too shabby. It's been a great, reliable watch and you can't go wrong.