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JayLexo · 17 June 2015, 10:09 PM

Hi all

I recently bought a 1.6mm screwdriver to adjust the braclet on my Sub 16610.

When I place the screwdriver in the head of the screw there is a slight bit of play in it, basically it doesn't fit as snugly as I expected it would and I'm concerned if I attempt to take the screw out it could damage the screw slot/ head.

Is it normal for there to be a slight bit of play in it or should it fit perfectly tight in the slot?

Here's a link to the screwdriver in question, I've read on TRF the screwdriver has to be hollow or slotted which there is no mention of it in the screwdrivers description but I've read other people on other forums using the same screwdriver for their Rolex's which is the reason I bought it.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B006JKFMX...051_TE_3p_dp_1

If this is the wrong screwdriver could someone recommend where I could buy the correct one in the UK?

Thanks in advance for any help on this.

Cheers Jay

joe100 · 17 June 2015, 10:18 PM

It needs to be flat-ground, which is blunt on the end, to be correct. That one appears pointy.

ec51 · 18 June 2015, 01:03 AM

I would not use that one. The flat head end is tapered. You want a hollow-ground:

http://armsinfo.com/screwdrivers.htm

jhe888 · 18 June 2015, 01:21 AM

Hollow ground screwdrivers will probably fit the slot better. They will also transmit force perpendicularly to the slot.

Tapered screwdrivers will bear on the top edge of the slot only and will have a tendency to twist out.

NYCREBROKER · 18 June 2015, 01:40 AM

Check out Horotec Curvature Blades.

watchwatcher · 18 June 2015, 02:03 AM

Yeah...check out the hollow grounds...

Jocke · 18 June 2015, 03:03 AM

Just try to find a proper screwdriver.

I put this one together recently.

Bergeon VS MOD

Frosty · 18 June 2015, 03:22 AM

Great examples, Jocke

Cdn328is · 18 June 2015, 03:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jocke

Just try to find a proper screwdriver.

I put this one together recently.

Bergeon VS MOD

Where did you purchase this MOD screwdriver, if you don't mind?

Jocke · 18 June 2015, 03:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cdn328is

Where did you purchase this MOD screwdriver, if you don't mind?

It's a Panerai OEM screwdriver, do a search and you will find.

RJC · 18 June 2015, 04:12 AM

This works best for me.

jamesbondOO7 · 18 June 2015, 04:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RJC

This works best for me.

Same here.

liuk3 · 18 June 2015, 05:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RJC

This works best for me.

How did you procure?

Cdn328is · 18 June 2015, 06:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by liuk3

How did you procure?

I actually looked into this and they're discontinued. You'll find them for around $100 second hand if you look around.

Alternatively, I just ordered this, which look a lot like the MOD 1.6mm screwdriver referenced by Jocke:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-60MM-CUT-O...item27e97ecee9

The seller claims it's made in Switzerland. I will let you guys know how it does when it gets to me.

bbressler · 18 June 2015, 07:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cdn328is

I actually looked into this and they're discontinued. You'll find them for around $100 second hand if you look around.

Alternatively, I just ordered this, which look a lot like the MOD 1.6mm screwdriver referenced by Jocke:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-60MM-CUT-O...item27e97ecee9

The seller claims it's made in Switzerland. I will let you guys know how it does when it gets to me.

I just ordered one as well, let's hope it works out.

liuk3 · 18 June 2015, 07:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cdn328is

I actually looked into this and they're discontinued. You'll find them for around $100 second hand if you look around.

Alternatively, I just ordered this, which look a lot like the MOD 1.6mm screwdriver referenced by Jocke:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-60MM-CUT-O...item27e97ecee9

The seller claims it's made in Switzerland. I will let you guys know how it does when it gets to me.

Thanks for the info. Please do let us know how it works out. Much appreciated.

Bucky · 18 June 2015, 07:43 AM

I called the st james service centre and they still had a couple of the rolex seadweller screwdrivers left. You have to go in and ask them and they will sell you it for £100. I decided not to pay that much for a screwdriver as the one i bought from watchobsession.co.uk was a hollow ground 1.6mm and fitted just as well. On a different note but still tool related the bergeon bracelet removal tool that everyone recommends does not fit the deepsea and will scratch the lugholes if you try to force it in. I tend to use the non fork end as this fits better and is less likely to scratch the watch.

JayLexo · 18 June 2015, 07:44 AM

Thanks guys really appreciate all your replies!

jernigan78 · 18 June 2015, 07:56 AM

I ordered my Horotec screwdriver from Ofrei.com They have all kinds of watchmaker tools and products.

NYCREBROKER · 18 June 2015, 02:13 PM

Here is the difference between the Horotec Curvature (left) and the standard Bergeon. Both 1.6 mm. The Horotec works flawlessly.

Brian Page · 18 June 2015, 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jhe888

Hollow ground screwdrivers will probably fit the slot better. They will also transmit force perpendicularly to the slot.

Tapered screwdrivers will bear on the top edge of the slot only and will have a tendency to twist out.

This for sure

liuk3 · 18 June 2015, 03:00 PM

Good info. Thanks!

Cdn328is · 27 June 2015, 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cdn328is

I actually looked into this and they're discontinued. You'll find them for around $100 second hand if you look around.

Alternatively, I just ordered this, which look a lot like the MOD 1.6mm screwdriver referenced by Jocke:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-60MM-CUT-O...item27e97ecee9

The seller claims it's made in Switzerland. I will let you guys know how it does when it gets to me.

So I received the hollow screw driver. While the fit is not perfect (the blade is 1.6mm wide but is not as thick as the slot, the tip touches the end of the screw slot), it works very well and much better than a traditional screw driver. It's not the sea dweller tool but it does the job!

I'm happy for now.

Andad · 27 June 2015, 11:49 AM

Yes, as has been said, the hollow ground tip is the correct tool for these screws.

The SD '2100' screwdriver is handy to have but I have found that this screwdriver and others with similar tips are too small to grasp securely when faced with a stubborn screw that needs some force.

I found this one on line and the large handle makes things much easier and less likely to slip due to the much firmer grip I have on it.

It also has a revolving removable endpiece for storing extra tips.:thumbsup

Just took these pix a few minutes ago.

Wearing My GMT TTc For Saturday in Oz.

17 June 2015, 10:09 PM	#1
JayLexo "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2015 Location: Edinburgh Watch: 16610M Posts: 63	Braclet screwdriver question Hi all I recently bought a 1.6mm screwdriver to adjust the braclet on my Sub 16610. When I place the screwdriver in the head of the screw there is a slight bit of play in it, basically it doesn't fit as snugly as I expected it would and I'm concerned if I attempt to take the screw out it could damage the screw slot/ head. Is it normal for there to be a slight bit of play in it or should it fit perfectly tight in the slot? Here's a link to the screwdriver in question, I've read on TRF the screwdriver has to be hollow or slotted which there is no mention of it in the screwdrivers description but I've read other people on other forums using the same screwdriver for their Rolex's which is the reason I bought it. http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B006JKFMX...051_TE_3p_dp_1 If this is the wrong screwdriver could someone recommend where I could buy the correct one in the UK? Thanks in advance for any help on this. Cheers Jay

17 June 2015, 10:18 PM	#2
joe100 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Real Name: Joe Location: New Mexico Watch: Explorer Posts: 12,753	It needs to be flat-ground, which is blunt on the end, to be correct. That one appears pointy. __________________ It's Espresso, not Expresso. Coffee is not a train in Italy. -TRF Member 6982-

18 June 2015, 01:03 AM	#3
ec51 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Real Name: DerekISeric Location: FurtherOnUpTheRd. Watch: yourself Posts: 1,639	I would not use that one. The flat head end is tapered. You want a hollow-ground: http://armsinfo.com/screwdrivers.htm __________________ . . . Eric

18 June 2015, 03:03 AM	#7
Jocke 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Real Name: Jocke Location: Sweden Watch: A dozen of Rolex's Posts: 22,514	Just try to find a proper screwdriver. I put this one together recently. Bergeon VS MOD __________________ This message is written in perfect swenglish. What is best a custom Rolex or a Rolex that is stuck in custom? Buy a professional camera and you´re a professional photographer, buy a flute and you own a flute.

18 June 2015, 03:22 AM	#8
Frosty "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Real Name: Larry Location: So Cal Watch: Rolex GMT 1675 Posts: 5,084	Great examples, Jocke __________________ “Anyone can be sarcastic; it takes intelligence to solve a problem!”

18 June 2015, 01:21 AM	#4
jhe888 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Real Name: John Location: Texas Posts: 377	Hollow ground screwdrivers will probably fit the slot better. They will also transmit force perpendicularly to the slot. Tapered screwdrivers will bear on the top edge of the slot only and will have a tendency to twist out.

18 June 2015, 01:40 AM	#5
NYCREBROKER "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Real Name: Steven Location: Miami Beach Watch: 214270 &Speedy Pro Posts: 391	Check out Horotec Curvature Blades.

18 June 2015, 02:03 AM	#6
watchwatcher "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Larry Location: Kentucky Watch: Yes Posts: 34,479	Yeah...check out the hollow grounds...

18 June 2015, 07:43 AM	#17
Bucky "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: UK Posts: 593	I called the st james service centre and they still had a couple of the rolex seadweller screwdrivers left. You have to go in and ask them and they will sell you it for £100. I decided not to pay that much for a screwdriver as the one i bought from watchobsession.co.uk was a hollow ground 1.6mm and fitted just as well. On a different note but still tool related the bergeon bracelet removal tool that everyone recommends does not fit the deepsea and will scratch the lugholes if you try to force it in. I tend to use the non fork end as this fits better and is less likely to scratch the watch.

18 June 2015, 07:44 AM	#18
JayLexo "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2015 Location: Edinburgh Watch: 16610M Posts: 63	Thanks guys really appreciate all your replies!

18 June 2015, 07:56 AM	#19
jernigan78 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: hawaii Posts: 175	I ordered my Horotec screwdriver from Ofrei.com They have all kinds of watchmaker tools and products.

18 June 2015, 03:00 PM	#22
liuk3 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 3,347	Good info. Thanks! __________________ "Appreciate your life!"

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