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Old 11 October 2016, 02:20 PM   #31
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The way I see it. You made an offer no matter your intentions they can accept or decline.
Yes. It's just business. People who take business personally are amateurs.
Besides- It's really none of the AD's concern what the buyer does with the watch after purchase. It's his watch, and he's free to do with it what he likes. Strange....
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Old 11 October 2016, 02:21 PM   #32
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They did you a favor.
Skydweller is only acceptable in WG/RG anyways

It's not too hard to get either watch.
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Old 11 October 2016, 02:22 PM   #33
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Dave, take your business elsewhere. We have never met in person or spoke to each other other than by email and this forum, but I feel and know you are a decent human being and do not deserve that kind of treatment from individuals who are supposed to sell you something. Some AD's have it all backwards. Who the hell cares if you are a reseller or not? If two parties come to an "agreement" in price, then all there is left is the exchange of funds and goods.

Don't think you are hyper-sensitive at all. If it were me and an AD wrongly accused me of this or anything, I would have been a lot less gentleman like in my response to them. You are willing to spend around $85k (I believe the US MSRP totals that) and they blow the deal. Unbelievable. After giving them a piece of my mind, I would have been on the phone with Rolex to report the incident.

Anyways, I wish you luck in your quest for these two fine timepieces my friend.
Yeah! I agree 100%
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Old 11 October 2016, 02:22 PM   #34
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Dave, take your business elsewhere. We have never met in person or spoke to each other other than by email and this forum, but I feel and know you are a decent human being and do not deserve that kind of treatment from individuals who are supposed to sell you something. Some AD's have it all backwards. Who the hell cares if you are a reseller or not? If two parties come to an "agreement" in price, then all there is left is the exchange of funds and goods.

Don't think you are hyper-sensitive at all. If it were me and an AD wrongly accused me of this or anything, I would have been a lot less gentleman like in my response to them. You are willing to spend around $85k (I believe the US MSRP totals that) and they blow the deal. Unbelievable. After giving them a piece of my mind, I would have been on the phone with Rolex to report the incident.

Anyways, I wish you luck in your quest for these two fine timepieces my friend.
Hey Eric- thanks for the kind words and I appreciate your sentiment. When I first wrote up the post, I wrote it all wonky and it was misconstrued. Guess my aggravation got the better of me. Business is going elsewhere. Maybe to the UK. Could visit my sister and bring home a couple of watches. Two flies with one swat as they sway. As more time passes, it was the tone of it all. Still don't want to name them though; can't help but think they are fundamentally nice people but that was a bush league move. Telling me "everyone knows everyone," like big brother is watching. Funny enough, the closest dealer to them just lost their Rolex authorization. I had bought a watch from them in July. Don't need to be a detective. Lame.
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Old 11 October 2016, 02:24 PM   #35
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Yeah! I agree 100%
Thanks Mitch. I appreciate your support especially when I was taking a beating from the other posters.
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Old 11 October 2016, 02:31 PM   #36
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They did you a favor.
Skydweller is only acceptable in WG/RG anyways

It's not too hard to get either watch.
After trying really hard, I can't get with rg and white, mixed feelings. I'm partially getting the SkyD because my buddy since kindergarten has agreed to take it off my hands if I get tired of it. I love that watch when I tried it on but have reservations about it in every other context.

The GMT will be a keeper. I've managed to abstain from flipping in recent months and have steered clear of pm to this point. I'm as certain as I'm going to get now.
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Old 12 October 2016, 12:24 AM   #37
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I think you should just buy on the forum for the same or less price.
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Old 12 October 2016, 03:55 AM   #38
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She probably thought you were a reseller because you knew more about Rolexes than she did.
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Old 12 October 2016, 04:08 AM   #39
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Thanks Mitch. I appreciate your support especially when I was taking a beating from the other posters.
Np, I was in the store when that guy was escorted out...they were pissed because he is a seller locally and they have lost business because their policy is absolutely zero discounts...period. So, customers go to him. Funny thing is he called Rolex USA and asked why he is banned from the stores locally...the AD then calked him and said he was fine to come and buy anything from them...lol

My point being they, AD,s. can be really stupid sometimes. That's why I don't shop there ever. I go to trusted sellers in TRF or to my contacts for the exact same product as an AD, with a full warranty with my name on the card, at a far better price. :)

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Old 12 October 2016, 08:47 AM   #40
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Hey Eric- thanks for the kind words and I appreciate your sentiment. When I first wrote up the post, I wrote it all wonky and it was misconstrued. Guess my aggravation got the better of me. Business is going elsewhere. Maybe to the UK. Could visit my sister and bring home a couple of watches. Two flies with one swat as they sway. As more time passes, it was the tone of it all. Still don't want to name them though; can't help but think they are fundamentally nice people but that was a bush league move. Telling me "everyone knows everyone," like big brother is watching. Funny enough, the closest dealer to them just lost their Rolex authorization. I had bought a watch from them in July. Don't need to be a detective. Lame.
Not a problem, my friend. Just calling it how it is. What a person chooses to do with their watches is their business after they have paid the required funds. It is just a watch for crying out loud.

All the best and take care.
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Old 12 October 2016, 09:10 AM   #41
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I tell my AD right upfront - I buy, sell, flip, etc. not for a living but as a hobby. He does, too and we quite often compare interesting pieces each of us has acquired.

Oh and he has no trouble selling me a 116500 (as soon as I clear the list)

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Old 12 October 2016, 09:11 AM   #42
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I tell my AD right upfront - I buy, sell, flip, etc. not for a living but as a hobby. He does, too and we quite often compare interesting pieces each of us has acquired.

Oh and he has no trouble selling me a 116500 (as soon as I clear the list)

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Old 12 October 2016, 10:28 AM   #43
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I find the story somewhat ironic as often times AD's will sell their inventory to resellers to keep cash flow positive. Very unprofessional behavior on the AD's part.
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Old 12 October 2016, 10:45 AM   #44
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Thankfully they're not the only ones to get these watches from. An AD across the pond will gladly take your business when you go visit your sister! Looking forward to that incoming post!
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Old 12 October 2016, 01:50 PM   #45
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Hey Dave, sorry to hear about this. It's their loss as these models aren't flying off shelves and I'm sure you can get a better deal elsewhere.

Lots of hostility lately on forums, don't take it personally.
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Old 12 October 2016, 02:39 PM   #46
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Hey Dave, sorry to hear about this. It's their loss as these models aren't flying off shelves and I'm sure you can get a better deal elsewhere.

Lots of hostility lately on forums, don't take it personally.
I identify with your plight now! Actually, the way I worded my original post made sense if you read it closely (or so I thought) but engendered some misunderstanding. Yes, I got spanked a little but was largely able to clarify my position.
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Old 12 October 2016, 02:48 PM   #47
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Post script- I emailed the AD and gave it to them. I contemplated naming names, contacting Rolex USA and posting reviews where relevant but ultimately decided to keep it sub rosa. Won't benefit anyone and I like to believe this is not how they comport themselves on the regular.

A member on here pm'd me offering his AD contact in the UK. What a great gesture. I hope I can make it work and thanks to everyone for letting me vent these truly first world problems.
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Old 12 October 2016, 02:56 PM   #48
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OP - I read your original post and don't understand how the initial few respondents could have construed it the way they described how they received your message.

I too, would have been extremely upset at the whole situation. What a blatantly ignorant AD. Any customer should never be spoken to in that manner and to do that to someone who has expressed interest in a relatively big sale is plain stupidity. Baffling!!!
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Old 12 October 2016, 03:13 PM   #49
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I have noticed in recent years that people are quick to jump to the 'high moral ground' and take offence where none was intended. We need to be slow to take offence unless it is clearly intended to be so, and if unsure, just let it go.
In a recent example in Australia a difference of opinion ended up in Court (still there) because someone who might be said to have given offence to others, claimed to take offence when the others objected to her actions. Ridiculous!
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Old 12 October 2016, 05:17 PM   #50
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I identify with your plight now! Actually, the way I worded my original post made sense if you read it closely (or so I thought) but engendered some misunderstanding. Yes, I got spanked a little but was largely able to clarify my position.
To be fair, the wording in the original, unedited post could easily be misconstrued in a quite negative way. Kudos for taking it on the chin and correcting the record. Lesson learned - proof reading is a good thing.

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I have noticed in recent years that people are quick to jump to the 'high moral ground' and take offence where none was intended. We need to be slow to take offence unless it is clearly intended to be so, and if unsure, just let it go.
In a recent example in Australia a difference of opinion ended up in Court (still there) because someone who might be said to have given offence to others, claimed to take offence when the others objected to her actions. Ridiculous!
Agree Rock. Knee jerk reactions tend to create conflagrations where barely a spark exists.
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