Any Interest in a "No Date" Sea-Dweller 4000

[R Douglas]

I wear a "no date" Subc, sure would like to see a "no date" Sea Dweller 4000 (116600).

Am I alone with this thinking ?

[Tools]

I'm not sure that I would really see the point since the SD doesn't have a cyclops..

What I would like to see though, is the Sub with the Paraflex equipped 3132 movement.

[Mis3]

Not for me. I think the SDC4000 looks great because of the lack of cyclops.

[Brushpup]

Not for me. SD needs a date, and the Sub has the "no date" covered.

[dexvd]

I would appreciate an increase in no date offerings... I enjoy the look and symmetry of no date watches and the fact that you don't need to set the date everytime you wear it, makes it that much easier to grab and go.

Why do you need to know the day of the month when underwater anyway?

[tkerrmd]

Originally Posted by R Douglas

I wear a "no date" Subc, sure would like to see a "no date" Sea Dweller 4000 (116600).

Am I alone with this thinking ?

that IS why they make the subC no date

[R Douglas]

The Sea-Dweller doesn't have the cyclops, but the date window interferes with symmetry, how costly could it be to offer a "no date" option.

Paraflex and Parachrom is sweet, would that be the 3132 ?

Originally Posted by Tools

I'm not sure that I would really see the point since the SD doesn't have a cyclops..

What I would like to see though, is the Sub with the Paraflex equipped 3131 movement.

[MTROIS]

I for one, would always prefer a watch with a date (one of the reasons why I flipped the Speedy Pro for now), and especially on the DSSD or the SD, since they don't have the cyclop.
Love the design as is... But all tastes are out there.
Cheers.

[T01]

Originally Posted by tkerrmd

that IS why they make the subC no date

[JackDFD]

Originally Posted by SPACE-DWELLER

I love the date window on the SD... because you 1) have the date ready at hand, and 2) because at a distance the date window looks like a regular marker, making for a clean looking dial.

+1


Dallas Fire Fighter/ Navy Senior Chief

[HogwldFLTR]

I can understand the desire for a ND SD. SDs are rated differently than Subs so if one needed the additional depth an SD is required. Also SDs have a different insert than Subs so again to get that an SD is required. Sure all the above comments are true however a ND SD could make a difference to some.

[steptoe]

Originally Posted by dexvd

Why do you need to know the day of the month when underwater anyway?

Because if you're a saturation diver you can be days and weeks locked away in a pressurised container.

[landroverking]

Originally Posted by Tools

I'm not sure that I would really see the point since the SD doesn't have a cyclops..

What I would like to see though, is the Sub with the Paraflex equipped 3131 movement.

I agree.

[slasherj]

Originally Posted by landroverking

I agree.

Perhaps the thinking is that there is minimal impact shock when doing saturation dives. I've not done one so only guessing...

[R Douglas]

I'm just suggesting it as an optional model, I would say that 90% or more of people who own these watches are not doing any kind of serious diving, so it comes down to aesthetics.

Human beings like things that are symmetrical, some may not realize it but things we look at that are symmetrical are pleasing to the eye, a date function on mechanical watches require regular updating, a digital watch on the other hand is "set it and forget it".

The Sea- Dweller 4000 is a great looking, over built watch and while the Submariner is offered, the Sea-Dweller is a "step up" I for one would love to have a no date model.

It can't be that costly for Rolex to offer one.

[subtona]

i think its called a 114060 or the older brother 14060?

[FTX I]

Same as asking if any interest in a Sub with HEV.

[RollieVerde]

Originally Posted by steptoe

Because if you're a saturation diver you can be days and weeks locked away in a pressurised container.

That, and even commercial divers spend far more time on dry land than in the water. The busier you are, the longer hours you work, the more a date can come in mighty handy.

[watchwatcher]

Not for me.

[rollerball]

Sea Dweller gives an idea of someone staying under the sea for a long time. He or she needs to keep track of the date.

[Scholar]

I prefer no date window watches almost without exception (though I don't mind six o'clock or 4:30 date apertures so much), but the Sea-Dweller has historically always had a date aperture. With the lack of Cyclops, it's considerably more symmetrical than any other sports Rolex with date.

For the kind of diving the SD is designed for, the date is actually an important feature because the watch will be strapped to the diver's wrist for the length of the expedition.

[bardm]

I think the SD is fine as it is.

[fishingbear]

Originally Posted by FTX I

Same as asking if any interest in a Sub with HEV.

Yep.

[dabbotjordan]

No

[GradyPhilpott]

Originally Posted by R Douglas

I'm just suggesting it as an optional model, I would say that 90% or more of people who own these watches are not doing any kind of serious diving, so it comes down to aesthetics.

Human beings like things that are symmetrical, some may not realize it but things we look at that are symmetrical are pleasing to the eye, a date function on mechanical watches require regular updating, a digital watch on the other hand is "set it and forget it".

The Sea- Dweller 4000 is a great looking, over built watch and while the Submariner is offered, the Sea-Dweller is a "step up" I for one would love to have a no date model.

It can't be that costly for Rolex to offer one.

The Sub Date is such a popular model that some people actually think that the Sub is a cut-rate, bare-bones model for the cheapskates among us.

How many people in the general population are going to be interested in a dateless SD?

Rolex is a company that at least heretofore respects tradition. Traditionally, the SD has had a date and I suspect that that will always be the case.

[997.2]

Originally Posted by tkerrmd

that IS why they make the subC no date

Agreed - part of the appeal of the SD is the cyclopsless date, without the date the SD distinguishes itself less

[Anthon]

Would there be any interest for a Seadweller with date but without the dormant escape valve and sub-human depth rating? Basically a thicker, compacter Sub, without cyclops..

Same as asking if any interest in a Sub with HEV.

[GradyPhilpott]

Originally Posted by Anthon

Would there be any interest for a Seadweller with date but without the dormant escape valve and sub-human depth rating? Basically a thicker, compacter Sub, without cyclops..

The cyclops on any Rolex can easily be removed. I'm having a problem visualizing a "thicker, compacter Sub," though.

Without an HEV, there would be no SD.

[thomaspp]

I agree with Larry. No cyclops so no need for a ND reference here.

[AndyK]

Nah.