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[JimmyCameron]

I do appreciate the help. I'm hoping TF reached out to me tomorrow and makes this painless.

[JimmyCameron]

It didn't come with papers but that was reflected in the discounted price.

[ferrissteve11]

Well to give the OP the benefit of the doubt the site he purchased said watch is currently selling a franken GMT...so I guess it might be the norm for them ??

https://www.truefacet.com/rolex-gmt-...h-2301678.html

[JimmyCameron]

In the event this was a Franken piece, what options do I have to fix it?

[watchmework]

Originally Posted by JimmyCameron

I do appreciate the help. I'm hoping TF reached out to me tomorrow and makes this painless.

For what it’s worth, I did some quick research on TRF and the internet. They appear like a legit company with a decent reputation that has worked with customers in the past. I’ve read some articles from NY Times and Forbes that featured the company as well. Best of luck in your interactions with them tomorrow, let us know what happens.

[jeffgo888]

looks weird

[tbonesteak]

Originally Posted by JimmyCameron

In the event this was a Franken piece, what options do I have to fix it?

https://www.truefacet.com/returns/

Hopefully it is returnable, you fix it by sending it back and getting your funds back.

Welcome to the forum, it’s the best Rolex resource on Earth.

If you’re looking for a 116 JC, you're prob in the 11.5-12k neighborhood - for a 126, somewhere around $16kish.

Go through the classifieds here. Remember, anyone can sell anything here as well with just a $25 donation, so vet the sellers... I find the best deals to be had are here on this forum (or if you own a pawn shop across the street from a casino).

[JimmyCameron]

Awesome, appreciate all the help. Will keep you guys posted.

[Nikrnic]

BUMMER!!

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[Dirt]

Originally Posted by tbonesteak

I’m gonna give you your only slice of hope here that it isn’t a complete junker, it’ll prob be debunked by someone who knows better than me. Also tough to get much from the picture.

Honestly, someone who knows the parts well would know better than me, but the only possibility that it isn’t 100% junk is if it is a Franken with a mix of 5 & 6 digit DSSD parts.

Actually, the bezel kinda looks ceramic in the blurry photo, I can’t tell. If that’s the case, then I’d say you’v got a junker here with that green lume in that bezel.

Yea, I’d be pissed.

Where did it come from?

There's never been a 5 digit DSSD.

[Dirt]

Originally Posted by JimmyCameron

Awesome, appreciate all the help. Will keep you guys posted.

Good luck

[Dirt]

Originally Posted by JimmyCameron

In the event this was a Franken piece, what options do I have to fix it?

If you can't get your money back on this particular watch.
And assuming the watch is the genuine article, the only way forward is to send it to RSC and they will take it upon themselves to put the right parts into it.
This may be fraught with an element of danger on a number of levels leaving you well and truly out of pocket in the least with a D-blue. Or worse

My advise.
Get your money back and run.
Run as fast as you can away and don't stop running.

[UnNatural]

If you don’t mind what did they charge you ?

[tbonesteak]

Originally Posted by Dirt

There's never been a 5 digit DSSD.

There you go, I have no clue where those green hands come from or that lume on the bezel then.

[Saoirse32]

Originally Posted by tbonesteak

https://www.truefacet.com/returns/

Hopefully it is returnable, you fix it by sending it back and getting your funds back.

Welcome to the forum, it’s the best Rolex resource on Earth.

If you’re looking for a 116 JC, you're prob in the 11.5-12k neighborhood - for a 126, somewhere around $16kish.

Go through the classifieds here. Remember, anyone can sell anything here as well with just a $25 donation, so vet the sellers... I find the best deals to be had are here on this forum (or if you own a pawn shop across the street from a casino).

OP, good luck tomorrow. For point of reference, a used 116 JC is going to be no less than $12k, even more for complete sets. Unworn about $13 to 14k. Check out some of the TS sites for reference.

[Dirt]

Originally Posted by tbonesteak

There you go, I have no clue where those green hands come from or that lume on the bezel then.

It's possible the hands may be off something like a Kermit if they're genuine as they will fit on the movement.
The bezel is the biggest mystery as there has never been a green Luminova pip in a Ceramic bezel.

As the fakes are apparently getting better by the day, i would say that on the balance of probability the Bezel along with the hands are fake.
Or the whole watch is fake

[Kostas]

Originally Posted by jimmycameron

and another ..

here is a real dssd below

Please note how the crown lines up with the upsidown triangle at 12 , now look at yours - next !

[BadBoyR]

Its definitely a Jimmy Cameron version

[Speedbird-1]

[QUOTE=tbonesteak;8710737]Actually, the bezel kinda looks ceramic in the blurry photo, I can’t tell.




That IS a ceramic bezel. I can tell.

[mercman]

An older black dial DSSD that has been fitted with a fake Cameron dial, hence the green Lume on the hands and pearl but blue Lume on dial.

[Devildog]

Originally Posted by tbonesteak

Okay, that’s good, you have recourse - again, where did it come from? I’d love to give you some real advice and opinions on next steps - but I’m confused as to why you won’t state the location? Someone sold you something and clearly misrepresented what it was... At best you have a Franken, at worst you have junk.

I’m confused as to why you would want to conceal the identity of this disingenuous seller when I’ve asked twice and others have asked as well.

See post 10 above

Originally Posted by JimmyCameron

I'm still here, Lol. I actually purchased this piece online from TrueFacet. Only piece i've purchased online from my collection. They supposedly have a rigorous "multi point" test to assure all products are legitimate. They also seem to have a pretty straightforward return policy, I guess i'll know in the next few days? I have additional pictures, clearer pictures - just difficult to post pictures - keeps asking for a link.

[SoCal_Batman]

There has to be more to this, I’m not quite bought into the frankenwatch story. If I’m the OP and purchased this watch from a reputable online watch retailer and had suspicions, the first place I would go is to my nearest AD. I’d have them open the watch up and inspect the movement, go from there. Not create a TRF account and post several blurry / out of focus pictures asking what he should do.

Just my opinion. Either way, hope it works out for you Jimmy.

[Devildog]

Originally Posted by mercman

An older black dial DSSD that has been fitted with a fake Cameron dial, hence the green Lume on the hands and pearl but blue Lume on dial.

DSSD's never had superluminova - they have had chromalight since they were first released.

I'd like to see some clearer higher res photos. That watch looks like one I picked up in Bangkok for 2,500 bhat in the pictures posted.

Hard to believe its a fake from that seller, however, but something is clearly very wrong.

[HL65]

Originally Posted by Devildog

DSSD's never had superluminova - they have had chromalight since they were first released.

I'd like to see some clearer higher res photos. That watch looks like one I picked up in Bangkok for 2,500 bhat in the pictures posted.

Hard to believe its a fake from that seller, however, but something is clearly very wrong.

Do you know if they ever came with fake dials like this one?

[JimmyCameron]

$11k.

[JimmyCameron]

Theres not much more to this? I went into panic mode in all honesty. Kind of embarrassed to discuss this with any of my watch collector buddies so I turned to the forum. I'm waiting to hear what TF will do for me, i'm hoping its an easy return and I can move forward.

[tyler1980]

Originally Posted by HL65

Do you know if they ever came with fake dials like this one?

thats why there is no papers IMO. It would tell you its not a D blue dial. Pretty sure US warranty card says D Blue. Cant speak to the other cards as sometimes they are different.

[dmash]

So many comments in here about this watch from people who have no clue what they’re talking about.

[dmash]

Originally Posted by Devildog

DSSD's never had superluminova - they have had chromalight since they were first released.

I'd like to see some clearer higher res photos. That watch looks like one I picked up in Bangkok for 2,500 bhat in the pictures posted.

Hard to believe its a fake from that seller, however, but something is clearly very wrong.

yup

[juniorlawrence]

1000% not authentic, send back immediately, contact your CC company immediately.