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Old 2 October 2012, 10:35 AM   #31
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Mastermixer, call paypal ASAP. Trust me. I was scammed out of some hard to get shoes and the seller did a good job at making sure I was out of luck. They sold me a pair of Jordans that were to release in over 3 months. Which means on the release day, I technically paid them to wait in line and send me a pair. I have done this many times before and it worked perfectly...just not 3 months in advance. On eBay and paypal, they only protect the buyer and seller for a certain time frame...not up to 3 months. Theres nothing they can do once that time frame comes. But after calling paypal 3 times I got hold of someone who wanted to help and they went out of their way to make sure I was sorted out. My tip to you, call them, let them know what is going on...if they dont seem helpful...call again.

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Old 2 October 2012, 10:40 AM   #32
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I haven't received the package yet so I can refuse it.


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I'm sorry to say this but most likely ebay/paypal will favor buyer. As soon as she can provide tracking number showing you have receive the watch back. Ebay/paypal will automatically pulled back your money and refund to buyer. Maybe, maybe you can track down the package and refuse it upon arrival, it can buy you time to figure something out.
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Old 2 October 2012, 10:45 AM   #33
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I haven't received the package yet so I can refuse it.
You will see the tracking when she posts it in ebay resolution. Or you can just simply ask her. As soon as you figure out what day it will arrive, make sure to refuse it. The package will be send back to sender.
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Old 2 October 2012, 10:49 AM   #34
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That sucks please let us know how you do. Can you call the Bristol Police and let them know whats going on?
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Old 2 October 2012, 11:02 AM   #35
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Old 2 October 2012, 11:41 AM   #36
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I sure hope that "dummy" blast is an emoticon on your end and just reading that way on my end; my kindergartner doesn't even throw that around. FWIW I don't think it will help at all but if I was getting flooded with email saying people were on to my scam, I'd start sweating a bit. I'm not a scammer so what do I know.
I just like that emoticon - not meaning to be mean

But i was serious - i don't think that will help much.

Although the OP appreciated it ....so wadda i know.
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Old 2 October 2012, 01:00 PM   #37
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Mastermixer, call paypal ASAP. ............... My tip to you, call them, let them know what is going on...if they dont seem helpful...call again.

Good luck

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Old 2 October 2012, 02:59 PM   #38
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That's terrible. I hope everything works out for you. If things dont go your way can you report the watch stolen? Then if it ever goes in for service maybe it will be confiscated. Of course she will not be able to provide proof of purchase! I am going to ban her user name from my own eBay auctions.
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Old 2 October 2012, 03:06 PM   #39
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I forgot to ask. What is her eBay Id?
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Old 2 October 2012, 03:17 PM   #40
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Here is her info again…
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Candace Qazimi
62 Missal Ave
Bristol, CT 06010-4466

(860) 681-0379

candy05@sbcglobal.net


If anyone can find any other info on her or immediate family please let me know.

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I forgot to ask. What is her eBay Id?
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Old 2 October 2012, 04:48 PM   #41
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i guess she has to pay for her fake 'add-ons' somehow....
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Old 2 October 2012, 05:14 PM   #42
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i guess she has to pay for her fake 'add-ons' somehow....
haha is this really her greg ?

You must share your sleuth ways with me
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Old 2 October 2012, 05:16 PM   #43
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yep, it's her alright... PM sent
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Old 2 October 2012, 05:56 PM   #44
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Funny what you can find with a real name on the net.
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Old 2 October 2012, 08:32 PM   #45
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I looked at your listing..Your proof should be in your picture... In your listing the lugs shown are clean .. In the picture she sent with the replica with your real band it's obvious she changed it as the lug on the bottom is scratched and marked due to strap change... That might help with your case.. good luck..
Unfortunately, that will not be as useful as we would all hope. She'll be claiming that she was sent a fake watch after bidding on a real one.

I definitely think reporting the scam to the police to get a case/crime reference number to take to Paypal/eBay would be worthwhile. I can't imagine a scammer would get the police involved.

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Old 2 October 2012, 08:47 PM   #46
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sorry to hear about this

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I posted a Breitling on Ebay and it ended up selling for $4,800.00

Here is the ad,

http://www.ebay.com/itm/110953217878...84.m1559.l2649

The paypal user audi08 was confirmed and verified.

I shipped it out on Wed Sep 26th and she received it on Friday Sep 28th around noon. The next day I had a recording on my voice mail that said the date doesn't work and the Reference numbers on the watch don't match the papers.

I wasn't sure what she was talking about and I figured she just didn't know how to set it correctly. So I left her a message how to set it correctly and that I don't know what numbers she is talking about but everything matches.

Sunday She leaves another message that the numbers don’t match and the date still doesn’t work and she is going to return it.

I send her this message today Candace:

All our records and pictures & video of the watch during packing & shipping show matching serial numbers and working date. You will need to email pictures of the mismatch serial numbers ASAP & prior to our accepting the watch. You will also need to obtain a "Return Authorization" (RA) number from us by phone as our policy is to refuse all shipments with out prior RA numbers. You may call me M-F during business hours to apply for the RA number at 800 551-1554.

The picture of the mismatched serial numbers is required as the pictures in the ad clearly show matching numbers and working date. Also you must state the actual mismatch specifically and not just the vague words "mismatch". Please list the exact two numbers you are referring to so we can clear this up for you and state the exact "date" the watch is on.

Again you must apply for the RA number prior to return for us to accept the package. Packages without RA numbers will be refused at your expense.

Thanks,


Robert


She then replies with this:

Hi Robert,

I tried explaining it to you the first day I called, upon receiving the package. I am sorry that I can't explain it to you any better but please forgive me since this is not something I do every day. Let me try once again.....The Date on the watch it will not change when I pull the crown ( I believed it is called crown ) on the second position as you suggested. It will only change if I pulled the crown on the last position and move the Hands. After the Hands go around couple of times than the date it will change that way.

Now ss far as the numbers go, I tried taking some pictures that show exactly what I am talking about.

Thanks,
Candace

She also attached this picture





The model # on her picture is different it is A44362 While Mine is A44364. Then I type the serial # 2037998 on the picture she sends me into google and people are saying its a fake watch. She also switched my original band onto the fake watch.

Obviously she is planning on sending this fake watch back instead of mine.

Here is her info…
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Candace Qazimi
62 Missal Ave
Bristol, CT 06010-4466

(860) 681-0379

candy05@sbcglobal.net


Nothing has happened with paypal yet and I have not received any packages from her but I am trying to start fighting this asap. If anyone has any advice or can help let me know.
my wife sells on e bay. never anything more than a few dollars. all the buyer needs to say is they did not get the item, even with a tracking number and proof of delv paypal returns thier money.......i know your are a trusted seller and would not send a miss matched numbered,broken watch.......i bought from you and the proof of your honesty is on my wrist. Barry
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Old 2 October 2012, 08:48 PM   #47
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Old 2 October 2012, 11:16 PM   #48
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Send someone to her house - let's see it it's even a real name.
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Old 2 October 2012, 11:30 PM   #49
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unfortunately this type of scam is extremely difficult to prove and protect against & paypal has decided to siding with the buyer is in their best interest...

fact is going to her house or posting a picture may not be such a great idea as there is little guarentee that the name and person havent been made up as well .... seems lkke any of these things could backfire and create a counter suit or even constitute a crime of various possibilities...

in recent news in floride the wrong address was given out for the neighborhood watch guy... this caused a nice and more importantly unrelated elderly couple to be harrassed and forced out of their home...
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Old 3 October 2012, 12:12 AM   #50
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Will it help prevent this sort of scam (in the future) if seller notarised the package and parcel # prior sending?

cost would probably be minimal ($20 or so) to save this headache?
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Old 3 October 2012, 12:27 AM   #51
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This is a classic "he said, she said" scenario...keep good documentation and write it off as a business loss...
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Old 3 October 2012, 12:30 AM   #52
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Will it help prevent this sort of scam (in the future) if seller notarised the package and parcel # prior sending?

cost would probably be minimal ($20 or so) to save this headache?
thats a great idea but the notary would have vouch for the package going into the mail...
simply signing off on the contents of a package that isnt shipped at that exact moment just wont work ... the chain of custody is lost
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Old 3 October 2012, 12:50 AM   #53
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unfortunately this type of scam is extremely difficult to prove and protect against & paypal has decided to siding with the buyer is in their best interest...

fact is going to her house or posting a picture may not be such a great idea as there is little guarentee that the name and person havent been made up as well .... seems lkke any of these things could backfire and create a counter suit or even constitute a crime of various possibilities...

in recent news in floride the wrong address was given out for the neighborhood watch guy... this caused a nice and more importantly unrelated elderly couple to be harrassed and forced out of their home...
Normally I would agree with this, but I think with all the communication and personal info, the seller knows exactly who he is dealing with.
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Old 3 October 2012, 01:05 AM   #54
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This type of theft infuriates me to no end. It is STEALING plain and simple. I wonder how they would feel if someone stole something from them or maybe from a loved one? I truly hope these scumbags get what is coming to them. Every time I see something like this, it makes me dig in deeper against the scammers. I hope it works out for you, Robert. I'm pulling for ya.
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Old 3 October 2012, 01:08 AM   #55
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Record on HD camera/phone the process of accepting (if possible) and openning (for sure) of the parcel. Be sure to specify what you expect to receive. Definitely report the theft to local and call CT police. Video/Police reports are going to be the strong support for your case with Paypal.
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Old 3 October 2012, 01:32 AM   #56
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i guess she has to pay for her fake 'add-ons' somehow....
they're not even GOOD add ons...jeeze.
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Old 3 October 2012, 01:41 AM   #57
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they're not even GOOD add ons...jeeze.
You could park your bike tire between them....
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Old 3 October 2012, 01:43 AM   #58
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That's what I'm saying.....

For the record, I subscribed to this thread long ago not trying to go off topic, and I hope everything works out....alas I have no other insight as to how to proceed than what's already been mentioned.
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Old 3 October 2012, 01:46 AM   #60
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i guess she has to pay for her fake 'add-ons' somehow....
Now you just need to wait and get a picture of her wearing the real Breitling!
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