ETA 2824 movement - opinions

[Rokoru]

I rocked the ETA 2824 movement for 5 years every day with my now sold Tudor Black Bay Rose in Red. One fine and proven work horse movement I can tell.

[bncapass1]

Well, it was good enough for Rolex to use it in their Tudor 1970's - 2000's Submariners and first gen Black Bay. I'd say that in it's own speaks huge volumes.

[Haveapair]

Not sure it really matters that much

[DJ2020]

If the 36 Black Bay was made in the last 3-4 years, It is a Stellita NOT ETA. I purchased one and a Glamour date 36. (2020) Both were Stellita 200-1's when they opened the case up to see what the winding issue was.

ETA no longer supplies movements outside the swatch group that I know of. Even Breitling uses a COSC grade for there B17 movement now. However Breitling was not happy with the automatic winding from Stellita and installs there own. Much thicker gearing and heavier weight. They run VERY accurate and trouble free more or less.
ETA 25 jewels, Stellita 26 Jewels printed on the movement. Also under the balance you will find either a ETA creast or the Stellita emblem.

[DJ2020]

Originally Posted by AEC

Interesting. I somehow got the notion that the 2892 was the "better" of the two. I'm always glad when you chime in. It's great to hear the perspective of a professional.

It is the more precise(2892) of the two, but thinner. 2824 is thicker and more heavy duty if you will, But not quite as precise. Common grades the 2892 is more accurate normally. COSC 2892 by a small margin depending on what brand did the modifications... If any. Omega 2500 and 1120 is based on the 2892 if that tells you anything.

[Strad]

I have an Invicta 9938 with the 2824-2 movement. It ran great for several years, almost perfect time. Unfortunately, the bracelet came off when the screw holding the bracelet fell out. I took it to a "watch store" to have the screw replaced and they butchered it. I sent it off to be serviced, but before they can service it they need a new case. So, I'm waiting for a new case.

Here is some in depth info on the ETA 2824-2 movement:

https://www.dwiss.com/blogs/news/eta-caliber-2824-2

[Timekeep111]

This is the new autavia. It has a eta 2824-2 and is COSC certified. To get this level of performance out of the movement means it’s reliable. It’s hackable and hand wind. Has a date complication and is quiet. Also being a workhorse eta, it’s going to be a cheap service and parts in abundance and also cheap.

Win win I say. Tudor have mainly always used Rolex cases and eta movements. It’s their DNA, the reason they exist. Provide Rolex quality for the masses without the price tag.

I have had many tudors and liked them all. If it’s what you want, get it but don’t let the movement stop you from your decision.


Just on in-house vs out of the box. An in-house movement can be problematic. They have been tested yes but it doesn’t mean reliability more superior to a eta. The 2824 has been around for ages and is widely used because of its reliability like the 7750 valjoux.

Something to think about.

[Kevin of Larchmont]

I had a choice between a Pelagos with an ETA 2824 and one with the in-house movement. I actively chose the 2824. Gains about five seconds a day, nice and steady. It’s the watch I’ll wear into the apocalypse.

[DavidSB]

For many years the TimeZone online Watch School used ETA 2801 and 2836-2 movements. The current courses still reference these movements but substitute Sellita SW-210 and SW 220 movements in the tool kit/movement packages. For anyone interested in advancing their horological knowledge I highly recommend these courses. Below are a few photos of my school projects using 2801, 2836-2 and a Unitas 6498 skeleton pocket watch movement I turned 90 deg. to case as a wrist watch. One can dive as deep as desired, is lots of fun and brings an understanding and appreciation of these mechanical marvels.

[willywatch]

ETA make great movements,that are robust and reliable.
Anyone who looks down on their calibers needs to learn
more about watches.

[padi56]

Originally Posted by MrKung

What are your opinion on the ETA 2824 movement featured in the black bay 36?

I feel that the 2824 is inferior to all in-house movements but I am interested in buying the Tudor black bay 36. What do you guys think?

Well first its a 2824/2T movement and all ETA movements are made in -house too. In most all of the ETA movements there are 5 grades, the top 2 are chronometer grade movements which Tudor uses. And when adjusted correctly can perform to be very accurate and as long lasting as any other mechanical movement.

[Gary Busey]

Would rather have the ETA. My Tudor Bb is an ETA and I think it will become rarer and desired. From a technical standpoint they are flawless. My 2 most accurate watches are ETA 2824. First my Doxa Sub 200 with a standard 2824, running +1 a day in pretty much all positions ( I know that’s rare) and my Tudor black bay with The highest spec 2824. 3rd is the Rolex Explorer 39mm
In house is great, but not a necessity.
If Jaguar built a supercar and decided to use a Ford engine I would have no issues.


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[Tikandtokalot]

ETA 2824 proven long life and great service movement standing the test of time.
I love the reliability of them and have one in my BB41.

[Rags]

I have 3 Squale watches with ETA-2824-2 movements one purchased in 2013 & one in 2014. The other was purchased later. The older watches work beautiful and are worn in rotation with others in my collection. I honestly can’t justify buying a Tudor with an ETA movement when for a fraction of the cost I can buy 3 Squale watches or Steinhart watches. I do own a Tudor Date-Day which has a ETA movement & I love it but I bought it because I love the look of it not the movement.

[Gary Busey]

Originally Posted by Rags

I have 3 Squale watches with ETA-2824-2 movements one purchased in 2013 & one in 2014. The other was purchased later. The older watches work beautiful and are worn in rotation with others in my collection. I honestly can’t justify buying a Tudor with an ETA movement when for a fraction of the cost I can buy 3 Squale watches or Steinhart watches. I do own a Tudor Date-Day which has a ETA movement & I love it but I bought it because I love the look of it not the movement.

Your last sentence is the relevant one. We must assign value to design or aesthetics otherwise we’ll just all end up wearing ill fitting jeans and new balance shoes.


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[Gary Busey]

Entry level 2824 grade. It’s like this in almost all positions




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[Rado63]

2824 is a time proven movement. I would take any watch with the 2824. Many excellent entry level swiss watches came with this movement because it was solid and reliable,

[csaltphoto]

In house movements are cool and all but there is something to be said for a movement that nearly any watchmaker can service or if completely fubared, completely replace for a few hundred dollars.

[Timekeep111]

Originally Posted by Rags

I have 3 Squale watches with ETA-2824-2 movements one purchased in 2013 & one in 2014. The other was purchased later. The older watches work beautiful and are worn in rotation with others in my collection. I honestly can’t justify buying a Tudor with an ETA movement when for a fraction of the cost I can buy 3 Squale watches or Steinhart watches. I do own a Tudor Date-Day which has a ETA movement & I love it but I bought it because I love the look of it not the movement.

Horses for courses. Tudor have always sold watches with eta movements until recently. If everyone shared your view they would have been defunct many moons ago.

I had a hamilton khaki with a 2824 I picked up for $250aud. Shared the same movement. Build quality wasn’t the same, attention to detail wasn’t the same. Tudor are still true to their company ethos. Build Rolex quality watches affordable for the masses.

For example the date/day. I picked one up for $2650 with a mosaic dial. Rolex Is in the tens of thousands. Granted it’s precious metals but you get the point.

Try the sub vs the blackbay. Same thing. Yes the black bay now has an in-house but it didn’t when it came out.

[thenewrick]

Great movement. Tissot's Powermatic 80 Silicium is amazing for the price

[Sparkle]

BB 36: 38 hours
BB in-house: 70 hours

[AJMarcus]

Originally Posted by MrKung

What are your opinion on the ETA 2824 movement featured in the black bay 36?

I feel that the 2824 is inferior to all in-house movements but I am interested in buying the Tudor black bay 36. What do you guys think?

Tudor always used ETA movements until very recently. They stopped because Swatch Group was embroiled in a dispute by Swiss regulators from selling all ETA movements to third parties. It looked like ETA would be drying up. So manufacturers scrambled to develop in-house movements. Novice owners sometimes think an in-house movement is always superior to ETA and that is not always true. The 2824 is a solid proven movement. It is not an inferior movement by any stretch. I’d take that over any in-house by Tudor. Besides, the ETA movements are way easier to have serviced by any reputable watchmaker anywhere in the world at a decent price. Not so with Tudors in-house.
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[Saaci]

The ol’ revive a 2 year old thread for no reason. Gets ‘em every time.


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[Gary Busey]

Originally Posted by Saaci

The ol’ revive a 2 year old thread for no reason. Gets ‘em every time.


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[GST15]

I have two Breitling watches that use the Breitling 17 (ETA 2824) movement and have been impressed with both the durability and accuracy. I would not hesitate on your purchase based on this movement.

[Rolexsd4000]

It has the ETA 2824-A2 and it holds time perfect
Marathon GSR


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[Krash]

Originally Posted by AJMarcus

Tudor always used ETA movements until very recently. They stopped because Swatch Group was embroiled in a dispute by Swiss regulators from selling all ETA movements to third parties. It looked like ETA would be drying up. So manufacturers scrambled to develop in-house movements. Novice owners sometimes think an in-house movement is always superior to ETA and that is not always true. The 2824 is a solid proven movement. It is not an inferior movement by any stretch. I’d take that over any in-house by Tudor. Besides, the ETA movements are way easier to have serviced by any reputable watchmaker anywhere in the world at a decent price. Not so with Tudors in-house.
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Yes, I’m not an expert, but across the industry, you have to wonder about some of these new in-house movements that replaced ETA movements. I’m not necessarily talking about Tudor, but when I read about this, I’m not exactly confident in the new movement. Just because it’s in-house, that doesn’t mean it’s as good or better.


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[East Bay Rider]

Originally Posted by Rags

I have 3 Squale watches with ETA-2824-2 movements one purchased in 2013 & one in 2014. The other was purchased later. The older watches work beautiful and are worn in rotation with others in my collection. I honestly can’t justify buying a Tudor with an ETA movement when for a fraction of the cost I can buy 3 Squale watches or Steinhart watches. I do own a Tudor Date-Day which has a ETA movement & I love it but I bought it because I love the look of it not the movement.

Nothing wrong with Squale
https://wornandwound.com/review/squa...-2002a-review/

[Walster]

I have been looking at a new (and recently discontinued) Black Bay 36. Tudor's website says it has a T600 movement, which used to be an ETA 2824. From what I have been reading, Tudor is now using the Sellita sw200-1.

Any thoughts or comments on the sw200-1? I would love to hear from SearChart on this issue.

Thanks!

[padi56]

Originally Posted by MrKung

What are your opinion on the ETA 2824 movement featured in the black bay 36?

I feel that the 2824 is inferior to all in-house movements but I am interested in buying the Tudor black bay 36. What do you guys think?

Well the ETA 2824 is 100% in-house made and most all ETA movements come in 5 grades, the top two are chronometer grade that can easily equal any other movement with accuracy it's a great movement.