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Old 10 April 2020, 11:54 PM   #31
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Meet at a police station.

Sheesh.
Did you deserve to have your extremely expensive watch stolen.... no.
Did you do an incredibly dumb thing..... yes

The most expensive lessons we learn, are often not repeated.
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Old 11 April 2020, 12:38 AM   #32
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https://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/jwl...105927525.html

Sorry for your loss.....

A lot of sellers have been getting hit in the Bay Area......
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Old 11 April 2020, 09:30 AM   #33
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I donít support stupidity.

If you are dumb enough to toss 30k, why should people feel sorry?
Your comments are unnecessary and rude for someone that got his watch stolen..... So, if you get something stolen from you, it means you're stupid??
Maybe, he should have been more careful and cautious.

How about showing a little respect for people? Specially, someone that is probably annoyed as hell, yet he's trying to help out others with advice and not buying his stolen watch, maybe?

How would you feel if you bought that "stolen" watch and it gets confiscated by the police, or Rolex when you take it for service..... whatever, and someone comments with "You did something very dumb".....?

Sometimes, if you have nothing positive to say or useful for others, its better not to say anything at all.
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Old 11 April 2020, 09:33 AM   #34
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Shit. Just noticed this one. Wtf is happening? OP, hoping you get it back or can figure something out with insurance.
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Old 11 April 2020, 01:19 PM   #35
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As far as where they resell, yes, some items, mostly firearms get circulated through the criminal network and sold over and over. With a watch as expensive as yours chances are they will want to cash in. He suggested keeping an eye on Craigslist, California wide and Nevada, even in our area where it was stolen, yes they are bold and often times not too bright. Ebay, Reddit and other person to person or e-commerce sites as well. He suggested reaching out to pawn shops in the Bay Area, give them the info on the watch. Than again he also warned not all pawn shops play by the rules and on more the one occasion they have located known stolen merchandise in a pawn shop so it doesn't hurt to go in person if you can. It might not show up immediately, keep an eye out over the course of the next several months
Thanks for this info, it's super useful. I provided the officer filling out the police report with the serial number of the watch, but I assume that's only helpful if a pawn shop contacts the police when being offered a watch. You're suggesting I should additionally reach out to shops in the region myself and ask them to look out for it/contact me if it comes through their door?

Also, I asked my sales rep at my AD about how to notify Rolex service centers to look out for the serial number, but she seemed unaware that this was possible. Is there some way to globally register the watch SN with Rolex as stolen, or do I need to reach out to every service center in my local area individually?
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Old 11 April 2020, 06:57 PM   #36
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Thanks for this info, it's super useful. I provided the officer filling out the police report with the serial number of the watch, but I assume that's only helpful if a pawn shop contacts the police when being offered a watch. You're suggesting I should additionally reach out to shops in the region myself and ask them to look out for it/contact me if it comes through their door?

Also, I asked my sales rep at my AD about how to notify Rolex service centers to look out for the serial number, but she seemed unaware that this was possible. Is there some way to globally register the watch SN with Rolex as stolen, or do I need to reach out to every service center in my local area individually?
i know the Rolex service centers are not centralised, as in , they cant even tell you if a watch was serviced in other service centers. But, I am pretty sure there is a way to flag a watch as stolen in their systems atleast in your area or city

Here are points to consider, Maybe others can add as well:
1. I think pawn shops do have a way of checking stolen watches before they buy or list them. I read about this in another forum.
2. Use other watch forums and advertise the stolen watch with its details. Long shot, but you never know.... If you ever locate it, advise the police, dont go there yourself :)
3. Monitoring craigs list, ebay, chrono24. You can even create an alert to notify you when your model is listed.
4. You can also try listing it here:

http://www.mystolenwatch.com/home-en/
https://www.thewatchregister.com/
https://www.facebook.com/groups/412402232515298/
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Old 11 April 2020, 08:46 PM   #37
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Interesting, did he say whether they're commonly solved or not? (I'd imagine not)



What's not clear to me (I suppose because I'm not a criminal) is where the market is for high-value stolen Rolexes. Given that it seems most pawn shops as well as Rolex service centers will check serial numbers against stolen databases, where do you find a buyer for a stolen $30k gold Rolex? Is it just a group of criminals all buying and selling amongst themselves?


These thugs will sell to gang members and other undesirables for 50 cents on the dollar.


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Old 11 April 2020, 08:49 PM   #38
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These thugs will sell to gang members and other undesirables for 50 cents on the dollar.


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Probably significantly less than that tbh.
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Old 11 April 2020, 09:15 PM   #39
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Also, I asked my sales rep at my AD about how to notify Rolex service centers to look out for the serial number, but she seemed unaware that this was possible. Is there some way to globally register the watch SN with Rolex as stolen, or do I need to reach out to every service center in my local area individually?

First off, youíre safe - thatís the good news.

Rolex does have a global theft registry, you donít need to call each service center. Here in the US you need to contact Rolex USA. First, get a copy of your police report because you will need it.

Call RUSA main number:
Main Telephone(212) 758-7700

Explain your reason for calling and you will be connected with a sympathetic soul who will explain how to provide your theft report. The police report number will be needed.

With these unusual times, your report may need to wait until the NYC lockdown is lifted.

This is how I had to report my stolen Platona almost 3 years ago.


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Old 11 April 2020, 09:18 PM   #40
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These thugs will sell to gang members and other undesirables for 50 cents on the dollar.


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Probably significantly less than that tbh.


In my experience (after both burglars were apprehended and convicted), their drug dealer paid them $8,000 for a Platona. Of course they got some of that in drugs and the rest in cash.




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Old 11 April 2020, 09:30 PM   #41
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Chrono24 should be able to provide you (or the police) with the login and ip info for the person that was communicating with you prior to the meet up. Perhaps they were dumb enough to be doing this from home.
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Old 11 April 2020, 11:32 PM   #42
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Your comments are unnecessary and rude for someone that got his watch stolen..... So, if you get something stolen from you, it means you're stupid??
Maybe, he should have been more careful and cautious.

How about showing a little respect for people? Specially, someone that is probably annoyed as hell, yet he's trying to help out others with advice and not buying his stolen watch, maybe?

How would you feel if you bought that "stolen" watch and it gets confiscated by the police, or Rolex when you take it for service..... whatever, and someone comments with "You did something very dumb".....?

Sometimes, if you have nothing positive to say or useful for others, its better not to say anything at all.
life is hard.
really

so even if OP busted his ass off for the monies earned to buy this piece, he should know better.

1- it’s a pandemic
2- it’s a 30k watch being sold to a stranger

facts.

sheesh.
you enablers aren’t helping this guy, or others to not repeat the same mistakes.
this “watch out” section is like a broken record.

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Old 12 April 2020, 03:17 PM   #43
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@swaini3 and @77T thank you both for the help, this is great info.
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Old 13 April 2020, 05:48 AM   #44
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Rolex Switzerland surely has a central stolen registry.
I am pretty sure that their ROLEX service centers always check it.
Approved Rolex repair "people" have NO access.
But you should record it with Rolex and CSA

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Old 15 April 2020, 12:09 PM   #45
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yeah this is tough. Blabus how you doing ? thought about you the other day. and I still feel lucky I didn't lose 85k worth of watches.
register that thing on those stolen watch registries.
when i filed the police report they told me this was all to common right now.
it's true, it's just monetary and way worse things happening around the world.
but you and i and others sharing our experiences will hopefully help others avoid this.

i've had so many shitty experiences just buying watches on the grey market some of my friends practically had heart attacks vicariously. i am definitely leaning less and less towards anything untowards (no pun intended - it's the port talking)
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Old 15 April 2020, 02:18 PM   #46
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This is terrible. OP I hope everything works out in your favor in the end.
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Old 19 April 2020, 02:50 PM   #47
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I've done a few F2F's always agree to meet a police station or bank.
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Old 8 May 2020, 07:29 AM   #48
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for me, to be secured F2F in a police precinct on a 3rd floor, where my buddies are
with 2 secured electric doors.
then to AD.
30k isnít a joke. thatís a fortune!
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Old 1 June 2020, 08:24 AM   #49
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Will look into meeting at a police station for future f2f transactions

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Old 1 June 2020, 08:40 AM   #50
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Wonder if its the same gang operating in the Bay Area?
https://www.rolexforums.com/showthre...7#post10648087
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