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Old 2 April 2020, 05:22 AM   #1
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STOLEN: Rolex Daytona Ceramic Everose on Oysterflex SN 19Q19739

Be aware, I just had this watch stolen from me when meeting with who I thought was a buyer that contacted me through Chrono24. Transaction was meant to take place face-to-face, after examining the watch the thief bolted and ran off down the street with the watch/box/papers.

This occurred on Wednesday, April 1 at around 11:15am, at 5095 Telegraph Ave, Oakland, CA 94609. Police report has been filed.

The watch serial number is 19Q19739.




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Old 2 April 2020, 05:24 AM   #2
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I'm so sorry to hear about this. I presume you are safe which is the most important thing.
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Old 2 April 2020, 05:42 AM   #3
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So sorry as well. Hopefully your safe and karma is strong for the scum that did this.
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Old 2 April 2020, 06:01 AM   #4
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Old 2 April 2020, 06:09 AM   #5
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Not long ago I saw a post exactly like this. Wow. Be careful everyone. Hope your ok;(
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Old 2 April 2020, 06:20 AM   #6
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Just to echo other posters, hope you're ok
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Old 2 April 2020, 06:24 AM   #7
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Know your buyer (I.D.) know your surroundings (Safe Zone) and bring backup (Trusted Friend).

Sorry for your loss and hopefully insured.
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Old 2 April 2020, 09:53 AM   #8
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This story (that we have heard on more than one occasion) is angering and horrible.

But we are all glad that no physical harm came into play.

Karma will get these bad guys some day.


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Old 2 April 2020, 12:59 PM   #9
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Sorry to hear about it buddy. Nice of you to post it here and let others know. Hope you're ok. karma will get him.
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Old 2 April 2020, 02:21 PM   #10
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Old 2 April 2020, 03:46 PM   #11
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Im sorry this happened... karma is a bitch. I’m sure the thief will get something bigger stolen in his/her life in the future, and you will gain something bigger. I hope you feel better
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Old 2 April 2020, 04:05 PM   #12
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Old 2 April 2020, 06:39 PM   #13
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What a dirty guy, has Chrono24 done anything in the way of tracking down IP etc. Probably used VPN anyway.
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Old 3 April 2020, 06:11 AM   #14
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Chrono24 has yet to respond to my email and their customer service phone number goes straight to voicemail. This being my first selling experience with them, it has... not gone well thus far.
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Old 3 April 2020, 01:55 PM   #15
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I'm sorry to hear but doesn't BayArea have shelter in place?
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Old 4 April 2020, 03:14 AM   #16
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Chrono24 has yet to respond to my email and their customer service phone number goes straight to voicemail. This being my first selling experience with them, it has... not gone well thus far.
Don't see how this has anything to do with Chrono24 as you went outside their recommended practices and met face to face on your own probably to save a few dollars.
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Old 4 April 2020, 04:07 AM   #17
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Chrono24 has yet to respond to my email and their customer service phone number goes straight to voicemail. This being my first selling experience with them, it has... not gone well thus far.

Not C24 pbm. Didn’t follow the rules!


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Old 4 April 2020, 04:26 AM   #18
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Sorry to sound unsympathetic, but as a physician trying his best to keep the lid on COVID-19, I’ll ask why is anyone meeting someone they have never met to exchange a watch like this at this particular time.....it is EXACTLY this type of interaction we are trying to discourage state wide. I know everyone is trying to get the money they can, however they can, but please try to shelter in place as recommended.
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Old 4 April 2020, 04:50 AM   #19
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damn, so close to home.
Sorry this had to happen to you.

Where/what shop did you meet up? I hope the shop has a camera somewhere.
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Old 4 April 2020, 05:01 AM   #20
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Sorry to sound unsympathetic, but as a physician trying his best to keep the lid on COVID-19, I’ll ask why is anyone meeting someone they have never met to exchange a watch like this at this particular time.....it is EXACTLY this type of interaction we are trying to discourage state wide. I know everyone is trying to get the money they can, however they can, but please try to shelter in place as recommended.
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Old 4 April 2020, 07:14 AM   #21
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Meet at a police station.

Sheesh.
Did you deserve to have your extremely expensive watch stolen.... no.
Did you do an incredibly dumb thing..... yes

The most expensive lessons we learn, are often not repeated.
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Old 5 April 2020, 10:23 AM   #22
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Sorry OP, glad you were not harmed, but how many times does this need to happen?!

After another TRF member was robbed about a month ago in same area as OP(Berkeley) I reached out to a buddy of mine works who for San Leandro PD, which is in the county where this occurred, he is assigned to the major crimes task force in Alameda County...this is not irregular! As of a month ago there was at least 7 active, open watch theft cases dating back to last summer within the county, all with the same MO. Given the details of each case they believe it to be the work of a robbery crew that is not only targeting luxury watches but high end electronics and cameras.

Do not meet people face to face unless you are doing so at a Police station only. With the shelter in place order in effect and most Police station lobbies closed to the public, consider holding onto your watch if meeting a random stranger face to face at a local coffee shop is your only option.

Be safe, it is not worth losing your watch...or your life.
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Old 8 April 2020, 09:40 AM   #23
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dang this breaks my heart. it's hard enough buying on the grey market with all the fake, tampered with, misrepresented watches.
last thing we need is to be robbed when trying to resell something.

you're so close to me brother, locally sent condolences
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Old 8 April 2020, 10:52 AM   #24
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So sorry to hear, glad you weren’t hurt .
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Old 9 April 2020, 10:36 PM   #25
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Sorry to sound unsympathetic, but as a physician trying his best to keep the lid on COVID-19, I’ll ask why is anyone meeting someone they have never met to exchange a watch like this at this particular time.....it is EXACTLY this type of interaction we are trying to discourage state wide. I know everyone is trying to get the money they can, however they can, but please try to shelter in place as recommended.
This guy just got robbed for 30k and all you can think about is "shelter in place"
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Old 10 April 2020, 04:33 AM   #26
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Sorry OP, glad you were not harmed, but how many times does this need to happen?!

After another TRF member was robbed about a month ago in same area as OP(Berkeley) I reached out to a buddy of mine works who for San Leandro PD, which is in the county where this occurred, he is assigned to the major crimes task force in Alameda County...this is not irregular! As of a month ago there was at least 7 active, open watch theft cases dating back to last summer within the county, all with the same MO. Given the details of each case they believe it to be the work of a robbery crew that is not only targeting luxury watches but high end electronics and cameras.

Do not meet people face to face unless you are doing so at a Police station only. With the shelter in place order in effect and most Police station lobbies closed to the public, consider holding onto your watch if meeting a random stranger face to face at a local coffee shop is your only option.

Be safe, it is not worth losing your watch...or your life.
Interesting, did he say whether they're commonly solved or not? (I'd imagine not)

What's not clear to me (I suppose because I'm not a criminal) is where the market is for high-value stolen Rolexes. Given that it seems most pawn shops as well as Rolex service centers will check serial numbers against stolen databases, where do you find a buyer for a stolen $30k gold Rolex? Is it just a group of criminals all buying and selling amongst themselves?
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Old 10 April 2020, 07:53 AM   #27
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Interesting, did he say whether they're commonly solved or not? (I'd imagine not)

What's not clear to me (I suppose because I'm not a criminal) is where the market is for high-value stolen Rolexes. Given that it seems most pawn shops as well as Rolex service centers will check serial numbers against stolen databases, where do you find a buyer for a stolen $30k gold Rolex? Is it just a group of criminals all buying and selling amongst themselves?
The unit he is assigned to have had some recent success in breaking up a multiple county theft/robbery ring spanning both sides of the Bay. They recovered luxury clothes, handbags, jewelry, electronics, power tools and more so there is hope, especially if it is part of a larger scale operation.

As far as where they resell, yes, some items, mostly firearms get circulated through the criminal network and sold over and over. With a watch as expensive as yours chances are they will want to cash in. He suggested keeping an eye on Craigslist, California wide and Nevada, even in our area where it was stolen, yes they are bold and often times not too bright. Ebay, Reddit and other person to person or e-commerce sites as well. He suggested reaching out to pawn shops in the Bay Area, give them the info on the watch. Than again he also warned not all pawn shops play by the rules and on more the one occasion they have located known stolen merchandise in a pawn shop so it doesn't hurt to go in person if you can. It might not show up immediately, keep an eye out over the course of the next several months.

I wish you the best of luck in your efforts to recover your Daytona. Don't give up!
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Old 10 April 2020, 08:13 AM   #28
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sorry to sound unsympathetic, but as a physician trying his best to keep the lid on covid-19, i’ll ask why is anyone meeting someone they have never met to exchange a watch like this at this particular time.....it is exactly this type of interaction we are trying to discourage state wide. I know everyone is trying to get the money they can, however they can, but please try to shelter in place as recommended.
stop!
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Meet at a police station.

Sheesh.
Did you deserve to have your extremely expensive watch stolen.... no.
Did you do an incredibly dumb thing..... yes

The most expensive lessons we learn, are often not repeated.
Great support there
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Great support there
I don’t support stupidity.

If you are dumb enough to toss 30k, why should people feel sorry?
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