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Old 6 December 2019, 06:57 AM   #31
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Can anything beat the oyster bracelet?

If given a choice between the two, I much prefer the aesthetic and comfort of the jubilee over the oyster.

Bracelets don’t “stretch”. Lack of maintenance results in worn pins in any style bracelet. Even the “though” oyster.

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Old 6 December 2019, 10:55 AM   #32
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Old 6 December 2019, 11:00 AM   #33
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The jubilee is great for the first couple years until it starts to stretch or is everyone still in the honeymoon phase??
We're living in 2019 with the solid links Alex, like anything else if you take care of it they will outlast you.
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Old 6 December 2019, 11:01 AM   #34
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Super jubilee for the win...it's like silk on your wrist and looks wonderful.

That said, the oyster is no slouch.
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Old 6 December 2019, 11:47 AM   #35
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We're living in 2019 with the solid links Alex, like anything else if you take care of it they will outlast you.
Solid links don't prevent wear. The area that is susceptible to wear is essentially the same thickness on the old hollow link bracelet and the new solid link. Pins are basically the same size too and those take most of the wear. The only difference is the solid link prevents some of the pin pivot and will slow down the wear a little bit.

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Old 6 December 2019, 12:16 PM   #36
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Nothing more comfy than a 50 year old oval link Jubilee. :)





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Old 6 December 2019, 12:54 PM   #37
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Old 6 December 2019, 01:06 PM   #38
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Solid links don't prevent wear. The area that is susceptible to wear is essentially the same thickness on the old hollow link bracelet and the new solid link. Pins are basically the same size too and those take most of the wear. The only difference is the solid link prevents some of the pin pivot and will slow down the wear a little bit.

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That is incorrect on a few points. The pins and contact area that wear are significantly thicker than the older hollow link bracelet. It is true all friction points wear if not kept clean but the new super jubilee is solid at all of those wear points like the modern solid oyster. This translates into tighter fitting bracelet links for a longer time than the hollow links, all wear conditions being equal. For today’s ocd Rolex owner the bracelet will probably feel tight as new for decades.

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Old 6 December 2019, 01:11 PM   #39
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President crushes the oyster bracelet


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Nothing beats the oyster bracelet
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Old 6 December 2019, 01:33 PM   #41
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Can anything beat the oyster bracelet?

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That is incorrect on a few points. The pins and contact area that wear are significantly thicker than the older hollow link bracelet. It is true all friction points wear if not kept clean but the new super jubilee is solid at all of those wear points like the modern solid oyster. This translates into tighter fitting bracelet links for a longer time than the hollow links, all wear conditions being equal. For today’s ocd Rolex owner the bracelet will probably feel tight as new for decades.

I’m speaking only on the oyster. The area of the link that wears is the same thickness.



There is a slight difference in pin diameter, but it’s really not much.

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Old 6 December 2019, 01:34 PM   #42
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Can anything beat the oyster bracelet?

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If given a choice between the two, I much prefer the aesthetic and comfort of the jubilee over the oyster.

Bracelets don’t “stretch”. Lack of maintenance results in worn pins in any style bracelet. Even the “though” oyster.



That looks kinda cool though, I would feel like a boss wearing that.
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Old 6 December 2019, 01:44 PM   #43
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X2. Yes the super Jubilee. Better looking and more comfortable. I own both and the jubilee breaths better and also flows water better when diving. I have owned only oyster bracelets for 30 years as a diver. It wasn’t until this year that I got to own the new super jubilee on the BLNR and put it through various conditions did I realize how much better the bracelet flows over the oyster. It’s significant. Wet or even extreme hot weather it’s more comfortable. I am a believer now.
Put a glidelock clasp on the jubilee and strap it on a Sub and it’s a better total Submariner package IMO.
This is where the Ploprof got it right decades ago using a mesh dive bracelet.

I am glad you are now a believer in the Jubilee bracelet and enjoy your posts. But please don't insinuate that the Jubilee belongs on a Submariner. That is blasphemous at best. The Oyster bracelet just by name means that it belongs in the ocean just like the Sub.
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Old 6 December 2019, 01:50 PM   #44
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the president bracelet is more comfortable than the oyster. it is like having a seamless band around your wrist. but is more prone to bracelet stretch.
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Old 6 December 2019, 01:52 PM   #45
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Yes, the jubilee bracelet.
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Old 6 December 2019, 01:58 PM   #46
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I am glad you are now a believer in the Jubilee bracelet and enjoy your posts. But please don't insinuate that the Jubilee belongs on a Submariner. That is blasphemous at best. The Oyster bracelet just by name means that it belongs in the ocean just like the Sub.


I mean no disrespect, but I think a new sub, with thinner lugs, jubilee bracelet, glide lock clasp, all in 18k yellow gold, would steal the show at Basel 2020
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Old 6 December 2019, 01:58 PM   #47
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Old 6 December 2019, 02:08 PM   #48
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I am glad you are now a believer in the Jubilee bracelet and enjoy your posts. But please don't insinuate that the Jubilee belongs on a Submariner. That is blasphemous at best. The Oyster bracelet just by name means that it belongs in the ocean just like the Sub.
What technician design makes the oyster bracelet the superior dive bracelet design?? Other than marketing names why wouldn’t the Jubilee make a outstanding dive bracelet? I can’t see any technical reason it wouldn’t. Strength and durability is not a issue and the oyster bracelet and jubilee bracelet share the same construction with the same fastening system to the case and clasp. Both are 904L so even its corrosion resistance for diving are equal.

The oyster name is on all Rolex cases since it’s first Datejust to signify they are water resistant and not all of those are technically marketed as dive watches.

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The Jubilee has been a Rolex icon since 1945 so it’s historical provenance is unquestionable as it was Rolex’s very first in-house bracelet design before the oyster. The oyster bracelet design was not by Rolex but by Gay Frères a independent bracelet company that supplied Rolex with this initial design. The “oyster” name for the bracelet was later borrowed from the water resistant watch case first named the “oyster”. FYI..Rolex wasn’t the primary inventor of the water resistant watch case. Perregaux and Peret invented the first screw in crown that made the water resistant screw on case back “Oyster” possible for Rolex. Shockingly, Rolex marketing likes to take credit for the entire process.
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Old 6 December 2019, 02:16 PM   #49
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Love the oyster for utility but the President feels like silk on the wrist
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Old 6 December 2019, 06:42 PM   #50
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Yup jubilee and president bracelets👌🏻
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Old 6 December 2019, 06:50 PM   #51
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Old 6 December 2019, 07:00 PM   #52
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I like all three options but the DD belongs on the President as the DJ belongs on Jubilee. Oyster tops for everything else. Yes even the GMT.
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Old 6 December 2019, 07:43 PM   #53
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Think about this, the heavier the bracelet the more friction in the joints . Heavier/ solid are sometime marketing words that don't mean much in the real world.
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Old 6 December 2019, 08:09 PM   #54
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Old 6 December 2019, 08:56 PM   #55
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I have no intentions of installing a jubilee bracelet on my YG Sub. Been wearing Subs on Oyster for over two decades.Completely happy.
Isn’t changing the bracelet on a watch from original to non original make it a Franken watch
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The DD bracelet is the best from Rolex IMO
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Old 6 December 2019, 11:54 PM   #57
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Oyster is the best bracelet ever made for me, because I´m very hairy and never pinch my hair.
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Old 7 December 2019, 12:35 AM   #58
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Old 7 December 2019, 01:22 AM   #59
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I mean no disrespect, but I think a new sub, with thinner lugs, jubilee bracelet, glide lock clasp, all in 18k yellow gold, would steal the show at Basel 2020
Would you buy it? Purely speculation on your part. Personally I think jubilee bracelets look horrible on the Submariner. Like installing Bentley wheels on your Porsche
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Old 7 December 2019, 01:51 AM   #60
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Yes, the jubilee bracelet.
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