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Old 11 September 2018, 11:35 PM   #1
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Ouch .. how much?

A friend send this to me today from Glasgow UK




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Old 11 September 2018, 11:39 PM   #2
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18.5k? Sorry, I don't understand the post...
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Old 11 September 2018, 11:40 PM   #3
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Ok

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Old 11 September 2018, 11:41 PM   #4
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Doesn’t seem out of line for that model especially including the original box and paperwork.
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Old 11 September 2018, 11:41 PM   #5
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OP, do you think this is expensive for this particular watch/reference? It is quite coveted by collectors...
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Old 11 September 2018, 11:43 PM   #6
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Quite a price.
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Old 11 September 2018, 11:49 PM   #7
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OP, do you think this is expensive for this particular watch/reference? It is quite coveted by collectors...
Yup ... I think its expensive ... I've seen 16800 at £8,000 to £8,500 .... does the red really equate to an extra £10,000?
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Old 11 September 2018, 11:56 PM   #8
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Saw that today. The same arcade (Argyll) also has a second hand GMT Batman for 10k, but it’s been sat in the window for over 2 weeks. It will be interesting to see how long it will sit there for before selling (I’d like one but not at that price)
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Old 11 September 2018, 11:57 PM   #9
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The condition of the bracelet is horrible. Look at the stretch.
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Old 12 September 2018, 12:34 AM   #10
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The condition of the bracelet is horrible. Look at the stretch.
I picked up on that as well ... to be expected in a watch of that age, but not at that price in my opinion.
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Old 12 September 2018, 12:37 AM   #11
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Is this in the Argyle Arcade? I'm visiting soon and might wander in lol
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Old 12 September 2018, 12:39 AM   #12
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Yes ... Argyle Arcade .... or as I refer to it ... the arcade of dreams. I can never walk through there without coming out of the other end and lusting after something.
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Old 12 September 2018, 12:45 AM   #13
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The condition of the bracelet is horrible. Look at the stretch.
I wouldn't call that terrible, it's a bit worn.
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Old 12 September 2018, 01:06 AM   #14
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They're just fishing...hoping someone bites!
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Old 12 September 2018, 01:09 AM   #15
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I picked up on that as well ... to be expected in a watch of that age, but not at that price in my opinion.
Go tell them they are wrong.
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Old 12 September 2018, 01:21 AM   #16
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Go tell them they are wrong.
So the price is fair? I'm saying "ouch" as it seems overly inflated to me when a similar age non-red can be had for £10,000 less.

£18,500 or $24,000 and some change, if you prefer, is a reasonable price for this model?

Its obvious I'm no expert in pricing of vintage watches, hence the post.
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Old 12 September 2018, 01:22 AM   #17
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Yup ... I think its expensive ... I've seen 16800 at £8,000 to £8,500 .... does the red really equate to an extra £10,000?
Um, you do realize that a 16800 and a Red 1680 are COMPLETELY different watches and are valued accordingly.
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Old 12 September 2018, 01:25 AM   #18
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18.5k? Sorry, I don't understand the post...
It's pounds, not dollars, so around $24K, which IS overpriced, IMHO, unless it's in great, perfect original condition. (Photo doesn't give enough info.)

The box and service papers are nice, but unless the watch comes as a full original set, with the Rolex guarantee paper, manuals, etc ..., they don't add much value.
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Old 12 September 2018, 01:31 AM   #19
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Seems about the price I would expect in a brick and mortar window.
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Old 12 September 2018, 01:35 AM   #20
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It's pounds, not dollars, so around $24K, which IS overpriced, IMHO, unless it's in great, perfect original condition. (Photo doesn't give enough info.)

The box and service papers are nice, but unless the watch comes as a full original set, with the Rolex guarantee paper, manuals, etc ..., they don't add much value.
Agree that the condition is paramount, but Jacek has a 1972 Red 1680 MK IV Dial with Box and Papers for $32,550. And like GB-man said, it seems about right for a shop like that.
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Old 12 September 2018, 01:46 AM   #21
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Agree that the condition is paramount, but Jacek has a 1972 Red 1680 MK IV Dial with Box and Papers for $32,550. And like GB-man said, it seems about right for a shop like that.
Yes, perhaps, but asking price and getting price are two very different things. I've noticed several high-priced red 1680s at well-known dealers that have sat for a while.
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Old 12 September 2018, 01:49 AM   #22
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Yes, perhaps, but asking price and getting price are two very different things. I've noticed several high-priced red 1680s at well-known dealers that have sat for a while.
Absolutely true....a LONG while for some of them!
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Old 12 September 2018, 02:26 AM   #23
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Um, you do realize that a 16800 and a Red 1680 are COMPLETELY different watches and are valued accordingly.


As it turns out, I didn’t. However, I’m sitting in my hotel room in West Africa as I type and doing some research now that I’ve finished work for the day.

1st thing I have to take in to account is that these were no longer produced after 1973(?) which is 10 years out from the date I was told the watch was by my friend, so that alone would indicate a difference in price compared to the 16800.

Then there’s the whole date and so on and so on.

Still don’t think it’s worth £18,500/$24,000 ... however, I’m sure (pretty obvious from the responses) that there are those who will be interested.




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Old 12 September 2018, 02:26 AM   #24
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Missed this one cos of the title - posted another post earlier when in office after lunch about this one

Apologies for the double post

Quite a price indeed - interesting to see if anyone bites.
The arcade has a lot of walk through traffic & it only takes one I suppose

The picture doesn’t do the watch justice & a bracelet could be easily sent off to bring it back to life

Just a surprise to see it when usually there’s nothing that stands out
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Old 12 September 2018, 03:15 AM   #25
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Seems to be market value for a red sub
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Old 12 September 2018, 03:31 AM   #26
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Spotted this in the Arcade last week....you don't see these in the jewellers window everyday

[IMG]IMG_1603 by neil davidson, on Flickr[/IMG]
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Old 12 September 2018, 03:44 AM   #27
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"original service papers" sounds nice but doesn't add much value neither does a box, worn bracelet, service insert, lugs look a bit skinny (hard to tell from this image) so all in all a pretty pedestrian red sub for 18.5K GBP... sounds about right for a shop in a flash arcade
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Old 12 September 2018, 04:19 AM   #28
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"original service papers" sounds nice but doesn't add much value neither does a box, worn bracelet, service insert, lugs look a bit skinny (hard to tell from this image) so all in all a pretty pedestrian red sub for 18.5K GBP... sounds about right for a shop in a flash arcade


And the hands look like they have been replaced


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Old 12 September 2018, 05:17 AM   #29
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Yup ... I think its expensive ... I've seen 16800 at £8,000 to £8,500 .... does the red really equate to an extra £10,000?
Uh..yes it does LOL. If everything added up correctly its probably not too far out of line. Least expensive one that HQ milton has right now is 26k without box or papers, MK IV dial.
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Old 12 September 2018, 06:31 AM   #30
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Watch is over-priced. Services papers equate to a £500 service at RSC. Period correct box can easily be bought.
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