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16 January 2021, 11:35 AM | #31 |
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I Sold My 2021 3861 Speedy Hesalite Already!
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16 January 2021, 05:07 PM | #33 |
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Great insights. Thank you. I too have the Apollo 11 bracelet on my 1861 and it’s perfection (but sizing it was/is a nightmare).
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Thanks for taking the time for the write-up, it was helpful and makes me even more content with my decision of ordering a 1681 Speedy yesterday, arrived today so waiting to get into.
The new clasp also doesn't have any micro adjustments which I think people were expecting..? Unless I missed it. Regards, M |
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Wonderful insight, thank you!
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24 January 2021, 04:59 AM | #36 |
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Interesting points. Thanks for taking the time to share your experience.
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Can someone explain why the clasp is such an epic fail?
Is it the exposed link? Wish for more micro adjustment? If so, yes, it’s not perfect, but it looks good, it’s thin, it’s secure. Personally, I think it looks better than any Rolex clasp. Well, when the little half link isn’t showing. ;-) |
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24 January 2021, 09:26 PM | #43 |
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This review is helpful. Thanks for sharing.
It seems like the new bracelet will need to be sized carefully. My sense is I would wear it loosely enough to prevent the need to let the clasp out a notch in hot weather. I'm okay with wearing a watch that loosely if that's what it takes. A thought for possible resolution of bracelet/clasp concerns: If the new bracelet fits the old case, then perhaps the old bracelet will fit the new case. Just a thought. I, personally, will keep my 2015 Speedmaster Professional. If/when the new model begins trading at "normal" pre-owned Omega prices, then I'll purchase the new model. Maybe I'll keep both, or maybe I'll keep just one of them, but I'll feel more comfortable deciding this way. My current watch runs and operates beautifully, and I'm reluctant to let it go. |
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I Sold My 2021 3861 Speedy Hesalite Already!
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25 January 2021, 02:35 AM | #45 |
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Looks wonderful, thank you for sharing! Alignment on the back looks like it protrudes a bit, but not much. I would suspect that due to the more prominent case back you aren’t really likely to even notice the bracelet alignment on the back side? I enjoy the standard issue bracelet on the 1861, but those Apollo 11 bracelets are certainly tempting me....
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Don’t wish to hijack this informative thread but what micro-adjustments are available on the Apollo 11 clasp?
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25 January 2021, 11:02 AM | #49 |
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Really great insights on this new version. Thank you for sharing.
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25 January 2021, 12:35 PM | #50 |
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26 January 2021, 01:57 AM | #51 |
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Thanks for taking time to put the pictures & post together
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26 January 2021, 03:08 AM | #52 |
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thank you for the well balanced review. I was about to dive in but, will now wait. or consider strap. I am in market for first chronology and was torn between moonwatch and el primero. ironically the new chronometer sport was just released but, I am getting off topic.
thanks again all very insightful.
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Good thorough review, like the ones you've done previously. The watch itself I couldn't care less about, it more or less looks the same (to me and 99% of population). The bracelet on the other hand, I was interested because it looks great and looked more comfortable than my 1861 bracelet. Definitely disappointing to find out about the lack of micro adjust, which was probably the biggest complaint of the previous bracelet. I had to order a SMP 6-way adjustable clasp just to get it to fit but not a big fan of how bulky it is.
Like you said, I don't think many 1861 owners are in a rush to "upgrade". I'm definitely in the boat of happy campers that got in just before the door shut.
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The bracelet is extremely comfortable in my opinion and I don't have any pinching or the watch head shifting around like the OP experienced. The 1mm shorter lug length, the slimmer case, the tapered bracelet and the non protruding end links are all worth it to me over the 1861, the dial changes I can take or leave, but the printing is very crisp. The (arguably) better movement is a bonus. I'm not trying to contradict what the OP experienced, but just wanted to give my perspective, we all have different wrists and watches wear differently. Full disclosure: this is only me 2nd watch with a bracelet and I have no experience with Rolex yet (patiently waiting) other than trying them on. |
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And to think I picked up my mint full set 3570 in 2010 for $1700. Prices are insane.
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I have the new one, just received a couple of weeks ago. I have had one vintage from ‘68 and a couple of modern iterations. The so called “embarrassing” clasp is anything but. The bracelet is incredibly comfortable, even more than a jubilee, and in person the clasp looks excellent. A micro adjustment would be nice, as my wrist is one that swells and shrinks depending on the weather, what I eat, workouts, etc, but, for the armchair quarterbacks, you should see it in person and wear it for awhile. It is hands down the most comfortable watch I have ever owned, and they subtle changes, ie. all brushed bracelet-as I have the hesalite version-looks amazing, the step sub-dials, and overall look make it essentially a near perfect version of the moonwatch.
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OP,
Comparing your 1861 to the 3861, how did you find the case? In comparing both side by side I notice that the 3861 case and lugs seem very sharp in comparison, with very acute edges. Same thing for the bracelet. Best, -Freq |
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