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4 January 2024, 05:44 AM | #31 |
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JeromeL was a user on this forum? Can an admin find this user?
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4 January 2024, 05:44 AM | #32 |
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Not enough info here to make sound advice/judgements. That said, once you wire money it’s gone - zero chance of retrieval. Also, since you voluntarily sent the money, there is little the police can/will do.
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4 January 2024, 05:45 AM | #33 |
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4 January 2024, 05:53 AM | #34 |
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I’ve seen a few of these threads on here now where people are getting scammed by sellers on TRF. seems way too easy for scammers to scam people on TRF.
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4 January 2024, 05:56 AM | #35 |
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Act fast. Call the local PD to the address given. Explain the situation, and give them the address. If it's a small town, they might investigate it given the $ amount.
I recall reading a thread from years ago where this exact scenario played out. OP had an address, OP called local PD, local PD did a house call, interviewed the occupant, occupant fessed up to some online 'relationship' where she gave her bank details as a 'mule,' she (likely) took a small commission and sent the funds overseas to the scammer. OP ended up getting the money back as the lady didn't want trouble with the law, and claimed it was an "honest mistake." Since it was a wire, your only hope in this is to get the local PD on the line ASAP, and hope they're willing to take time out of their incredibly busy schedules to help. |
4 January 2024, 06:03 AM | #36 |
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I'm not overly convinced this is a genuine thread. If it is I can only sympathise. nonetheless who parts with 14k to a private seller based in another country. There are probably loads of private and grey dealers in Spain who could have offered you the same watch at that price, hence I have my suspicions on the OP.
You have to be naive to part with that kind of money without even speaking to anyone for advice. |
4 January 2024, 06:04 AM | #37 | |
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An advanced search will find him, as long as he has posts on TRF. https://www.rolexforums.com/member.php?u=287316 |
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4 January 2024, 06:10 AM | #38 |
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4 January 2024, 06:13 AM | #39 |
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Not all Grey dealers are reputable. Look no further than TPG. AD is the only way to be 100% sure. I only hope that there is a special place in hell for shitbags like this guy. Sorry this happened to you.
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4 January 2024, 06:36 AM | #40 |
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Here is the listing on Watch Recon: https://www.watchrecon.com/detail.php?cid=6938453
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4 January 2024, 06:40 AM | #41 | |
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I have been scammed please HELP
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4 January 2024, 06:40 AM | #42 | |
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I have been scammed please HELP
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You are making a generalization, that is untrue. There are plenty of trustworthy grey dealers, right here on this forum. The OP bought from a guy with just 14 posts over 1 year. Interestingly, several of them were giving comfort to someone else who was scammed, in an effort to seem like a good guy. He was probably looking for tips on how to scam potential buyers. Unfortunately, the OP did not exercise due diligence, by vetting the seller. The fact that this guy was banned, was likely due to scamming someone else. It’s a real shame, and a cautionary tale. That’s a lot of money to lose. So sorry, OP. Kat Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk |
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4 January 2024, 06:43 AM | #43 |
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I’m very sorry to read this OP.
You’ve been a member here for a good number of years, and I’m sorry to hear this has happened to you. |
4 January 2024, 06:47 AM | #44 |
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4 January 2024, 06:50 AM | #45 |
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Contact your bank fraud department and see if they can help you. Tell them everything that happened and although I know they are not required to do anything, they might help.
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4 January 2024, 06:51 AM | #46 | |
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Kat, I was not making a generalization... I said NOT ALL grey dealers are reputable, and the only way to be "100%" safe is with an AD. both those statements are true!
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4 January 2024, 06:55 AM | #47 |
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OP,
As someone who has been scammed for a lot of money before, I want to offer my thoughts to you. I know you probably worked very hard to save up for this watch and to be taken advantage of and victimized in the way you were is just reprehensible. I am so sorry this happened to you. My advice is to try to come to terms with what happened and eventually reach a period of acceptance because you own emotional health is the most important thing. Again I am so sorry this happened. Also, I can’t recall if you are in the US or not, but if you’re in the US please discuss this with your accountant when you file your taxes. There is a special IRS provision where victims of scams can write off and/or deduct 95% of the loss on their taxes IF the scams were related to an investment. Being that watches are considered by many as an alternative luxury investment vehicle, you should be able to justify this and qualify for the deduction if you planned to purchase the watch for investment purposes. The IRS rule on this is 2009-9 and most accountants have NO IDEA about this, so please read 2009-9 yourself and you’ll likely have to explain it to your accountant to ensure he files the proper paperwork. The rule specifically referenced victims of “Ponzi” losses, but applies to virtually any form of loss resulting from scams/criminal activity resulting in the investment loss. If you are in Spain, I’m sure there is something similar for you to recover a portion of the funds through your taxes but talk with a pro. This is not accounting advice and you should speak with a tax professional. |
4 January 2024, 06:55 AM | #48 |
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I’m betting this has a happy ending and is a false alarm.
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4 January 2024, 06:59 AM | #49 |
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I have his name, email and address can I share
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4 January 2024, 07:01 AM | #50 |
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I would have been more covered with a sales contract?
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4 January 2024, 07:04 AM | #51 |
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I’m sorry this has happened to you. Did you get his phone number during your email/text exchanges? Have you attempted to phone the seller?
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4 January 2024, 07:04 AM | #52 |
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I mean the buyer….
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4 January 2024, 07:05 AM | #53 |
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Wait you still didn't say whether or not you tried to contact him. Has he just been silent for multiple days now?
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4 January 2024, 07:27 AM | #54 |
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From what you have said, your bank looks like your only option. If they won't help you, keep asking, go higher, make noise. It's not their negligence or their responsibility but they might be persuaded to help you in some way and they must have some form of fraud investigation facility.
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4 January 2024, 07:33 AM | #55 |
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Have you tried to contact him?
He has listed several watches over the past couple months. How long ago did you wire and when did you last hear from him? Id also reach out to a mod and see if they will tell you why he was banned. If this was the reason he was banned then Id be worried but so far it seems a little early to be in total melt down mode
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4 January 2024, 07:44 AM | #56 |
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Dear mods,
May I know why has he been banned? |
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4 January 2024, 08:05 AM | #59 | |
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The bank will be of no help. Wired and it’s gone. Technically there is no fraudulent transaction. The buyer voluntarily sent funds from his account to another. Sorry to say, but there is no recourse. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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4 January 2024, 08:09 AM | #60 |
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OP - when did you actually send the payment and how do you know its not been posted ?
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