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25 June 2020, 12:14 AM | #151 |
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Yes people want what they cant have
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25 June 2020, 12:17 AM | #152 |
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OP have you popped into Patek yet? Did you ask for a steel Nautilus but if that's not possible you'd probably take a steel Aquanaut if you had no other choice?
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25 June 2020, 12:22 AM | #153 |
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Funny you bring that up, I did actually visit the local Patek AD as well to inquire. It's the same story for the Aquanaut, very difficult to get. Calatrava is easily obtainable but I was looking for a sporty piece. Nothing is going to be perfect so I'll have to make some compromises somewhere and just go for something.
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25 June 2020, 12:25 AM | #154 |
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For those interested, I've followed up with an article about our local ADs in Montreal: https://www.watchreviewblog.com/best...lers-montreal/
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25 June 2020, 03:50 AM | #155 |
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Cool story bro
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There are a lot of comments I haven’t read yet...so apologies if a duplicate post. The only challenge I have to that is some people like the thrill of the hunt as much as the end result. I like the hunt but at the end of the day I’d rather have what I’m hunting! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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25 June 2020, 04:47 AM | #159 |
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25 June 2020, 06:45 AM | #161 | |
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Yes, there's an MSRP on all Rolex models. No, you cannot just obtain any Professional model in the catalogue just because you have the asking price available. Rolex is about prestige and image. Some models are readily available, others are not. There may not be a big price difference as far as MSRP is concerned but that is almost irrelevant because if you want to get a high demand piece from an AD you will have to spend, and show that you have the means to continue to spend, before they reward you. It's a game. If you don't like it you don't have to play. You can cut the crap and go grey/secondary. Some prefer this. Considering the value of these pieces I'm very wary of this route. The temptation to misrepresent something must be quite high and how are you going to check it out other than submit it to an RSC? When you shop at an AD you can see them take the watch out of the shipping coffin and remove the stickers in front of you. You know it's never been opened, serviced, fixed, fettled, parts swapped, polished, etc etc. All the paper work is in your name and whatever happens to it from the day you bought it you know about. Who knows what's already happened to a grey watch? Plus aftersales support, if it's ever needed. And dealing with people who are actually Rolex trained and not just flitting from one unrelated three month sales job to another. Check reviews and comments on here about Jaztime for example... Anyway, don't stress and idealise too much. I'd start with a more available piece from an AD and see where it takes you. If you really don't have the money to consider buying multiple pieces then maybe grey is the option if you really must have that high-profile bit of jewellery now. There are also still ADs (in the UK at least) who do run genuine lists and even if it takes a few years they'll get you the piece at MSRP; it's who knows what that MSRP will be by then or whether you still want the watch! |
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25 June 2020, 07:58 AM | #163 |
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25 June 2020, 08:57 AM | #164 |
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This is all just for clicks.
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No offense to the OP, but the article didn't shed any new light on the subject and was essentially the same as any one of hundreds of posts in this forum over the past few years. If anything it just seemed like a way to use your blog to pile onto something that has been beaten to death. An article reviewing pieces that would make good alternatives to the Rolex models that aren't generally available might have made for interesting reading and possibly helped the budding watch enthusiasts that are in the same position. The article you wrote just comes off as sour grapes, sorry.
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25 June 2020, 10:38 AM | #166 | |
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This pretty much sums it up. Also, when someone identifies themself as a blogger, "influencer" or "instagrammer" you should pretty much dismiss them straightaway in my opinion.
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25 June 2020, 10:40 AM | #167 |
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I’m in the middle of cutting Rolex altogether. The pieces I’d actually buy are some of the most coveted, Sub Date, 16500, DD Olive. Not to say the rest I don’t like, just wouldn’t spend that kind of money on them. I’d look at alternatives, because you know, other companies make watches besides Rolex.
To the OP it is a tricky situation. As a business owner I can tell you that I would almost always take care of my loyal customers. That said you always have to try and gain more. What would you do if you were an AD? It kind of reminds me the opposite of what telecom/TV providers do. They are always offering deals to new customers but forgetting about their current ones. I have to call back yearly to get the pricing someone new gets lol. There has to be some loyalty to current clients. My idea, Rolex corporate makes AD register buys and monitors the guy who buys 15 Daytona’s or Batman’s. Don’t allow one person to buy multiples of the same piece. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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I guess it's very tempting to use the sought after pieces to bring in more sales, most businesses will do anything to maximize profit as long as it's legal. Maybe the more loyal and fair route would be to distribute the pieces evenly, you might gain more respect as an AD that way - which in the end would bring in way more business. If for example an AD received 12 Daytona C's per year and the owner randomly placed one into the display case once per month it would work, but that might attract bums camping out in-front of the AD trying to buy the watch every month and flip it. The planning would require some good brainstorming but I believe there is a better way than to reward only the richest highest paying customers with it. |
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25 June 2020, 11:16 AM | #169 | |
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If you dive a little deeper into the blog you'll notice that almost all of our content is hands-on watch reviews, this was a unique piece for us. |
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25 June 2020, 12:40 PM | #170 |
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I'm not a marketing expert here. But from my understanding, luxury brands has always been about exclusivity and rarity. A brand's prestige comes from the perception that its products are highly desired, in limited quantity, and very hard to get.
And you gotta admit, it's working right? Here we are, moaning and groaning about how we can't get a highly desired watch, bitching in the forums about it, and working harder to come up with better ways to lick the ADs boots so that they'll notice us. Incredible. Simply incredible. Grown men reduced to simpering little girls desperate for that elusive cookie in the jar. I would like to apprentice under Rolex marketing dept. I'm sure I would learn a lot. |
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Is it working? My money will most likely end up with AP or somewhere else. I refuse to buy marked up and I won’t kiss ass to give you my money. Maybe it just isn’t working on me.. For exclusivity and rarity, there are other ways. I’ve never walked into LV, Chanel, etc and not be able to get what I want. It’s a strained demand created by Rolex so idk if it’s marketing per say. It is brilliant though. In 2013 I purchased a DD2 Ivory at 28k. They’ve changed. Good for them Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk |
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And Rolex marketing department laughs all the way to the bank. Don’t get me wrong, I love my Sub, but my eyes were opened so to speak when I got my Omega Planet Ocean, as to the very high quality of it. Now thinking the Rolex premium is based on a lot of hype and smoke and mirrors.
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This is exactly what would happen. In fact many would stalk the AD to find out the exact day and time they receive shipments. Some will even pay off key employees to give them a heads up. The gaming and abuse would be legendary.
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29 July 2020, 06:22 AM | #176 |
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My first-hand experience with one of the ADs in my area, which i won't name, was via a colleague who's social circle and activities have him bumping shoulders with an AD decision-maker. A few nights of exclusive, posh party run-ins during Grand Prix weekend with said manager and he got a BLRO Pepsi within 2 weeks. Not even a Rolex fan. No mythical list. The watch was on a local classified site within days at 10K over sticker. I had visited the same AD multiple times, spoke to the same "manager" looking for a Pepsi or Hulk but apparently I was not important enough or part of the right social circles to merit a callback. I guess being a socialite vs shy and introverted can help in landing that coveted piece.
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29 July 2020, 06:47 AM | #177 | |
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I’ve noticed something similar. sales associate at ADs who run Instagram accounts will have a post or 2 with an “influencer” picking up a hot model. Makes business sense though but pushes me even further from the brand. I picked up a brand new Big Pilot on the grey market for 40% off. I’m also looking at vacheron. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk |
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29 July 2020, 06:59 AM | #178 |
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Enjoyable read - both the article from the OP and the subsequent discussion which followed. Some great gems of advice here and thanks to all for sharing their experiences.
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29 July 2020, 07:06 AM | #179 |
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29 July 2020, 10:46 AM | #180 | |
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This. I ended up buying an AP, and have plans to get another (Diver or Chrono). My single AP could have been two rolexes. But whatever, the 15500 blows almost every Rolex away IMO Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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