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dannyjak · 20 December 2010, 04:13 PM

Hi all

Looking for a dress watch now and have narrowed it down to a Patek 5196R or Lange Saxonia (in rose gold as well)

What would you choose and why?

Thanks

uracowman · 20 December 2010, 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dannyjak

Hi all

Looking for a dress watch now and have narrowed it down to a Patek 5196R or Lange Saxonia (in rose gold as well)

What would you choose and why?

Thanks

I would go with a Lange but not the saxonia. The dial doesn't look very appealing in my opinion, but if you take a look at the 1815, Lange 1 or Richard Lange.

Andad · 20 December 2010, 05:22 PM

Hi Danny,

In the absence of pix the Patek 5196R sounds better.

Bit like Ducati 1098R sounds better than Yamaha Fizzer.

dannyjak · 20 December 2010, 09:18 PM

Pictures attached

mickyvee · 20 December 2010, 09:30 PM

The Lange looks more elegant. But it is a very close call!

RolexABC · 20 December 2010, 09:34 PM

The Lange looks more dressy imo

Earl · 20 December 2010, 10:42 PM

The Lange would be my preference watch :o)

Numismatist · 20 December 2010, 10:45 PM

Lange!

WatchTimes · 21 December 2010, 01:44 AM

Of those models Id go with the Lange, I am a bigger fan of Patek but the Patek Id suggest would start in the upper 30's

barstoolman · 21 December 2010, 04:05 AM

That's a toss-up...........you couldn't possibly go wrong with either

Aivas47a · 21 December 2010, 06:37 AM

Patek ... I've particularly always loved the dauphine hands on that model.

dannyjak · 21 December 2010, 07:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JYogi

Of those models Id go with the Lange, I am a bigger fan of Patek but the Patek Id suggest would start in the upper 30's

Patek approx 14.9 USD in RG
Lange approx 15.9 USD in RG

Lange being the more pricier one of the two

dannyjak · 21 December 2010, 07:49 AM

How do Lange's hold value in comparison to Patek?

I guess the other thing is that a Patek is the pinnacle of watches

dannyjak · 21 December 2010, 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dannyjak

Patek approx 14.9 USD in RG
Lange approx 15.9 USD in RG

Lange being the more pricier one of the two

My mistake!

Patek 5196R is 19.4k
Lange Saxonia is 15.9k

So Patek is the pricier of the two

kyle L · 21 December 2010, 02:34 PM

I like the hands of the patek and the case shape.

boa2 · 22 December 2010, 12:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dannyjak

How do Lange's hold value in comparison to Patek?

I guess the other thing is that a Patek is the pinnacle of watches

It depends on the model, and the length of time you're willing to hold it.

Toxicant · 22 December 2010, 12:57 AM

I like the Patek better, the crown is to big on the Lange. The Germans always say, form follows function, easier to wind.

I just found a place on line that has the Patek at $14,550.00 New.

Paracentesis · 22 December 2010, 03:36 AM

I would go with the PP, but the Lange is good, too.

MBEECH · 22 December 2010, 06:58 AM

Go for the Patek. I absolutely love the dial, it is probably my favorite dial ever.

dannyjak · 22 December 2010, 08:16 AM

Thanks for all your input guys

Somehow I have to try the both of them on next to each other.

Aivas47a · 22 December 2010, 08:25 AM

Let us know what you decide!

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gypsy · 22 December 2010, 11:40 AM

pics when it arrives!!!

topcat30093 · 29 December 2010, 07:15 PM

The 5196R is my preferred choice between your two options.
Though please bear in mind, that the Patek does not come with a sapphire case back as does the Lange. Both are quite small in diameter and height.

Regarding value (something that is not usually discussed) on a whole a Patek will hold it's value longer then most other brands, but to be able to recoup your original expense, then you must be prepared to hold on to it for 10 years or more.
Also worth noting is that these two (although not reflected in the cost) are the basic dress watches, so their prices are not going to rocket in value. But that said they are both beautifully crafted pieces.

If it was my money, and has already been mentioned, I would up my choice to say either a Patek 5127 or 5107. And in the Lange & Sohne range I would be looking at the Saxonia Automatic, 1815 or the Richard Lange (Which is renowed for it's accuracy) and finally Lange are only one of very few manufacture's who assemble their pieces, then take them apart before re-assembling.

Please let us know what you finally decide?

Regards
Tony

dannyjak · 30 December 2010, 07:42 AM

Thanks Tony, very helpful!

Looking at it, I think I am now thinking of the auto 5296R, or even the more classic manual 5119R

drtooth73 · 30 December 2010, 08:22 AM

You gotta start looking at 5396 or 5135.
I really like the 5135.

clock · 30 December 2010, 08:44 AM

Of the two, I'd choose the Patek.

As mentioned, only the Lange has a display back showing its beautiful movement.
The Patek 215 caliber is so small (will fit a 33mm case) it might look rediculous with a sapphire case back in a 37mm watch.

Try to get a 25-30% discount on the Patek.

I didn't notice, but if you're in the states I know two Patek AD's who might give that discount.

PS: Have you seen a Patek 5127 in rose? Or a Richard Lange (that would be my choice)?

20 December 2010, 04:13 PM	#1
dannyjak "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Sydney Posts: 194	Patek 5196R or Lange Saxonia Hi all Looking for a dress watch now and have narrowed it down to a Patek 5196R or Lange Saxonia (in rose gold as well) What would you choose and why? Thanks

20 December 2010, 05:22 PM	#3
Andad 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: Eddie Location: Australia Watch: A few. Posts: 36,792	Hi Danny, In the absence of pix the Patek 5196R sounds better. Bit like Ducati 1098R sounds better than Yamaha Fizzer. __________________ E

20 December 2010, 10:45 PM	#8
Numismatist "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Real Name: Chris Location: Camden ME & STT Watch: 116600 Posts: 6,350	Lange! __________________ Rolex 116600 Sea-dweller Montblanc Solitaire Doué Black & White Legrand FP Montblanc Solitaire Doué Black & White RB Montblanc Meisterstück Diamond Mozart BP Montblanc Meisterstück Mozart BP

21 December 2010, 01:44 AM	#9
WatchTimes 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Real Name: JYogi/Jeremy Location: Metro Detroit USA Watch: It's a Rolex! Posts: 5,446	Of those models Id go with the Lange, I am a bigger fan of Patek but the Patek Id suggest would start in the upper 30's __________________ "You won't rise to the occasion - you'll default to your level of training." Barrett Tillman Kentucky Colonel, Tennessee Squire & Combat Leprechaun

22 December 2010, 12:57 AM	#17
Toxicant "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Real Name: Ron Location: Maine, USA Posts: 369	I like the Patek better, the crown is to big on the Lange. The Germans always say, form follows function, easier to wind. I just found a place on line that has the Patek at $14,550.00 New. __________________ Time is precious, regulate it with class.

20 December 2010, 09:30 PM	#5
mickyvee Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Real Name: mick vigano Location: UK Watch: SS Sub 16610 Posts: 263	The Lange looks more elegant. But it is a very close call!

20 December 2010, 09:34 PM	#6
RolexABC "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Real Name: Saf Ahmed Location: UK Posts: 298	The Lange looks more dressy imo

20 December 2010, 10:42 PM	#7
Earl "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: Who Me? Location: Northern Virginia Watch: out Posts: 4,616	The Lange would be my preference watch :o)

21 December 2010, 04:05 AM	#10
barstoolman Banned Join Date: May 2007 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 801	That's a toss-up...........you couldn't possibly go wrong with either

21 December 2010, 06:37 AM	#11
Aivas47a Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Real Name: Jim Location: Dallas Watch: Love them all Posts: 225	Patek ... I've particularly always loved the dauphine hands on that model.

21 December 2010, 07:49 AM	#13
dannyjak "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Sydney Posts: 194	How do Lange's hold value in comparison to Patek? I guess the other thing is that a Patek is the pinnacle of watches

21 December 2010, 02:34 PM	#15
kyle L "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: USA Watch: Rolex Explorer I Posts: 10,278	I like the hands of the patek and the case shape.

22 December 2010, 03:36 AM	#18
Paracentesis Banned Join Date: May 2010 Real Name: James Location: UK Watch: Tissot Posts: 1,454	I would go with the PP, but the Lange is good, too.

22 December 2010, 06:58 AM	#19
MBEECH "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: SoCal/MN Watch: Daytona WG 116509 Posts: 26	Go for the Patek. I absolutely love the dial, it is probably my favorite dial ever.

22 December 2010, 08:16 AM	#20
dannyjak "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Sydney Posts: 194	Thanks for all your input guys Somehow I have to try the both of them on next to each other.

22 December 2010, 08:25 AM	#21
Aivas47a Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Real Name: Jim Location: Dallas Watch: Love them all Posts: 225	Let us know what you decide! Sent from my DROID2 GLOBAL using Tapatalk

22 December 2010, 11:40 AM	#22
gypsy Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Swindon, UK Watch: Rolex Milgauss GV Posts: 106	pics when it arrives!!!

29 December 2010, 07:15 PM	#23
topcat30093 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Tony Location: England Posts: 5,425	The 5196R is my preferred choice between your two options. Though please bear in mind, that the Patek does not come with a sapphire case back as does the Lange. Both are quite small in diameter and height. Regarding value (something that is not usually discussed) on a whole a Patek will hold it's value longer then most other brands, but to be able to recoup your original expense, then you must be prepared to hold on to it for 10 years or more. Also worth noting is that these two (although not reflected in the cost) are the basic dress watches, so their prices are not going to rocket in value. But that said they are both beautifully crafted pieces. If it was my money, and has already been mentioned, I would up my choice to say either a Patek 5127 or 5107. And in the Lange & Sohne range I would be looking at the Saxonia Automatic, 1815 or the Richard Lange (Which is renowed for it's accuracy) and finally Lange are only one of very few manufacture's who assemble their pieces, then take them apart before re-assembling. Please let us know what you finally decide? Regards Tony __________________

30 December 2010, 07:42 AM	#24
dannyjak "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Sydney Posts: 194	Thanks Tony, very helpful! Looking at it, I think I am now thinking of the auto 5296R, or even the more classic manual 5119R

30 December 2010, 08:22 AM	#25
drtooth73 Banned Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: W. Stutman Location: Motor City Watch: TT GMT IIC Posts: 2,223	You gotta start looking at 5396 or 5135. I really like the 5135.

30 December 2010, 08:44 AM	#26
clock Banned Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: in a house Posts: 13,510	Of the two, I'd choose the Patek. As mentioned, only the Lange has a display back showing its beautiful movement. The Patek 215 caliber is so small (will fit a 33mm case) it might look rediculous with a sapphire case back in a 37mm watch. Try to get a 25-30% discount on the Patek. I didn't notice, but if you're in the states I know two Patek AD's who might give that discount. PS: Have you seen a Patek 5127 in rose? Or a Richard Lange (that would be my choice)? Last edited by clock; 30 December 2010 at 08:48 AM.. Reason: to add more information

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