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Old 7 May 2019, 03:03 AM   #1
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Stolen watch by Fedex Outlet at California Gardena

Sad to report this but a watch that i bought from a seller that i know here was stolen. (This deal was done outside of TRF but i think it's good to alert the community with the watch serial number).
I had a good relationship with the seller. Had 4-5 deals which all went well.

Parcel was sealed before heading to Fedex Outlet located at Gardena, California.
My seller dropped off the watch and was told the system was down for the day so it couldn't be scanned it until later in the day.
Date : 1st May 2019 (Probably in the evening at 6.30pm, California time)

Checked the next day, no tracking or scan was made.
My seller popped over to Fedex to check with the staff and was told the system is still down and couldn't scan in multiple parcels but definitely it was going out today.
Final scanned Date : 2nd May 2019 (3.56pm, California time)

I received the parcel today, opened it up. To my horror, nothing but a stack of A4 papers.
Couldn't see any signs of tampering. Asked my seller if he put tape at the bottom of the fedex box he shipped it, he say he didn't.
But the fedex box that i received has 2 clear tape at the bottom.
So probably the fedex staff who had access to the parcel, opened it up, took the watch.
Place a stack of papers that weight about 2.5lbs and used the label that i have provided on it.

I have the serial number of the BLNR that was stolen (See picture)
If anyone come across this full set (less the white tag), please report to the authorities. It's a stolen watch.

My seller is on his way to lodge a case with fedex and the police

Serial : 4P381931
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Old 7 May 2019, 05:04 AM   #2
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I would think that if the police and fedex really wanted to, this could be solved quickly. Packages are meticulously tracked and fedex has access to work schedules. It’s just a matter of having fedex put forth the effort.

Good luck!
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Old 7 May 2019, 06:26 AM   #3
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I would think that if the police and fedex really wanted to, this could be solved quickly. Packages are meticulously tracked and fedex has access to work schedules. It’s just a matter of having fedex put forth the effort.

Good luck!


Can’t track what was never checked-in.

Based on the narrative, sounds like either the seller has gone bad and never shipped, or a FEDEX worker never scanned it and stole it.

OP - this will be an interesting case and hope you don’t get scammed. Please keep us updated as to what went wrong.


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Old 7 May 2019, 10:40 AM   #4
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Can’t track what was never checked-in.

Based on the narrative, sounds like either the seller has gone bad and never shipped, or a FEDEX worker never scanned it and stole it.

OP - this will be an interesting case and hope you don’t get scammed. Please keep us updated as to what went wrong.


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Old 17 May 2019, 03:13 AM   #5
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Are you sure the hulk is genuine and not a superfake?

Also it is clear you are a person that is full of grace. I think though it may make sense to proceed in the manner you have considered, but have it checked by an attorney. Also I do not believe the prior advice about enforcing judgments in the USA, and CA is completely accurate, I would check on that. I believe you can file motions to have the court enforce judgments once awarded.

I do not think it is certain you have won any battles at this point. I think the hulk is possible fake stolen or fraken. Some of the fakes are shockingly good. Bring it to Rolex RSC and ask them about it's serviceability.

I think you are very considerate but need to tone down threats and move forward with an attorney. What's that phrase "no good deed goes unpunished", helping him out by not filing complaints through legal system may open you up to a countersuit. For the same reason I would ask the Mods to change the title, as the watch was not stolen by FedEx and that may also expose you to liability.
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Old 7 May 2019, 05:11 AM   #6
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Why in the world would anyone hand over a Rolex to FedEx when their system was down and they couldn't scan anything?
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Old 7 May 2019, 05:23 AM   #7
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why in the world would anyone hand over a rolex to fedex when their system was down and they couldn't scan anything?
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Old 7 May 2019, 05:30 AM   #8
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Why in the world would anyone hand over a Rolex to FedEx when their system was down and they couldn't scan anything?


I’m hoping someone learned a lesson. I agree with the others. File a police report and send it to FedEx. Let them bring the heat on that location.


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Old 7 May 2019, 05:56 AM   #9
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Why in the world would anyone hand over a Rolex to FedEx when their system was down and they couldn't scan anything?
Yeap. That's was a sloppy mistake by my seller.
Usually I require a scanned in receipt from fedex for proof of scan
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Old 7 May 2019, 07:40 AM   #10
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Why in the world would anyone hand over a Rolex to FedEx when their system was down and they couldn't scan anything?
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Old 9 May 2019, 01:15 AM   #11
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Old 7 May 2019, 10:00 AM   #12
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Why in the world would anyone hand over a Rolex to FedEx when their system was down and they couldn't scan anything?


Sounds skeptical right!


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Old 7 May 2019, 12:28 PM   #13
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Why in the world would anyone hand over a Rolex to FedEx when their system was down and they couldn't scan anything?


This! Insane.


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Old 8 May 2019, 05:02 AM   #14
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Why in the world would anyone hand over a Rolex to FedEx when their system was down and they couldn't scan anything?


I was thinking same thing, makes me sick!! Hope all get sorted out!


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Old 7 May 2019, 05:12 AM   #15
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Sorry to hear Darryll, hope it gets figured out
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Old 7 May 2019, 05:58 AM   #16
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Sorry to hear Darryll, hope it gets figured out
Yeap. Thanks wayne!
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Old 7 May 2019, 05:18 AM   #17
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Did he double box? Usually with parcel pro insurance, they require an "inner" sealed box in addition to the FedEx or other box. I think this makes sure that when you try to open the box, all you see is another sealed box.

Another thing - usually as part of customs declaration to Singapore (I've shipped a few) you need to have the invoice with value and description of goods. If it identified it as a watch then yeah makes it easier for an employee to know what it is... did your seller list it as a rolex? If so...dumb move =(

Would report immediately - the FedEx centers usually have CCTVs (unless it was those mom and pop franchisees). I always ship my parcels from a FedEX ship and pack center fully sealed and I am quite popular there as a "Auto parts" person.
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Old 7 May 2019, 05:58 AM   #18
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Did he double box? Usually with parcel pro insurance, they require an "inner" sealed box in addition to the FedEx or other box. I think this makes sure that when you try to open the box, all you see is another sealed box.

Another thing - usually as part of customs declaration to Singapore (I've shipped a few) you need to have the invoice with value and description of goods. If it identified it as a watch then yeah makes it easier for an employee to know what it is... did your seller list it as a rolex? If so...dumb move =(

Would report immediately - the FedEx centers usually have CCTVs (unless it was those mom and pop franchisees). I always ship my parcels from a FedEX ship and pack center fully sealed and I am quite popular there as a "Auto parts" person.
Nope. It was listed as used precision instrument
Yeap I have reported to local fedex and my seller is working with me to report it to the Californian police and fedex..
Very likely to be a fedex ship centre.

But I don't have high hopes for the funds or watch ever to be found.
Waiting for my local fedex to get back to me.
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Old 7 May 2019, 05:59 AM   #19
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But I don't have high hopes for the funds or watch ever to be found.
Your seller isn't going to take responsibility for handing the package over to a random FedEx employee with no documentation and refund you?
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Old 7 May 2019, 06:03 AM   #20
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Your seller isn't going to take responsibility for handing the package over to a random FedEx employee with no documentation and refund you?
That has yet to be discussed between us.
We are trying to get it the bottom of it.
Have all the report filed first.
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Old 7 May 2019, 06:27 AM   #21
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Don't all FedEx ship centers have cameras throughout to track their employees?
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Old 7 May 2019, 09:03 AM   #22
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Old 23 May 2019, 12:08 PM   #23
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Don't all FedEx ship centers have cameras throughout to track their employees?
Yes they do. This story would seem to be quite convoluted. No questioning the OP but, its very strange.
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Old 23 May 2019, 06:33 PM   #24
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Yes they do. This story would seem to be quite convoluted. No questioning the OP but, its very strange.
yes. cameras, but there are definitely blind spots of the camera.

fedex is still on the case.

1. Fedex staff stole it
2. Seller BS the story

but now, no hard evidence so i can't point fingers just yet.
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Old 24 May 2019, 03:32 AM   #25
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yes. cameras, but there are definitely blind spots of the camera.



fedex is still on the case.



1. Fedex staff stole it

2. Seller BS the story



but now, no hard evidence so i can't point fingers just yet.


It is pretty certain the seller made the story up. He already jerked you around and tried to steal your wire money. There is no way I would believe anything that comes from him.


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It is pretty certain the seller made the story up. He already jerked you around and tried to steal your wire money. There is no way I would believe anything that comes from him.


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that's what we all think but we need concrete evidence to point fingers.
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Old 7 May 2019, 06:30 AM   #27
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Stolen watch by Fedex Outlet at California Gardena

This is a tough one to call. The package was delivered and based on FedEx they’re done.

I would never leave a package at fedex or ups unless they scan it in their system at the spot.

Good luck.

Buyer. Did you video tape or record yourself opening it. I do it all the time because i hear horror stories about empty boxes like your case. Same to seller did he videotape packaging it? You can watch the video and make sure the box is the same.

Didn’t you have an issue in the past in wiring someone money and he never sent you the watch?
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Old 7 May 2019, 06:40 AM   #28
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This was a hard read. Sounds fishy to say the least. Hope you get your money back OP.


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Reminds me of this thread: Bought Rolex but received Empty Box--HELP

Hopefully the same resolution will come in this case as well.
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Reminds me of this thread: Bought Rolex but received Empty Box--HELP

Hopefully the same resolution will come in this case as well.
Yep, but that one had a discrepancy with the weight. This one had the same weight from point A to point B. I can see FedEx drawing a no fault conclusion unless they found evidence of tampering.

There are bunch of newbies out there who think buying/selling is easy money...but the true reality it can be stressful when things go wrong...and it does...we just don't hear all the stories online.

I videotape EVERYTHING I buy online from private party....as a seller and buyer for my own protection.

Bought a $2,000 headphone - video tape when it arrived to make sure it's not an empty box or damage good.
Sold the $2,000 headphone - video tape when I packaged to make sure buyer doesn't make some mysterious claim about it.

It is simple to do with two items - your phone camera and a $10 tripod
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