*** New Bond Seamaster ***

[ratty]

Originally Posted by FTX I

Yes IMO. I had the 2531.80, 2254.50 and 2255.80 and they were significantly larger and heavier than a 5 digit Sub. I'd say ou need to try before buying if size is a concern.

[enjoythemusic]

Originally Posted by ratty

It looks after market to me.

Good eye. No effort to visually integrate mesh bracelet with the case.

[Fleetlord]

Originally Posted by DCheeta

I love the look, but the price is way too high and I was disappointed when I read on their site that it was grade 2 Ti. Surely the stem tube and crown threads are steel (?) but why would they go 15 years back in time and use a metal that the industry has largely moved away from? I’m no metallurgist, so maybe someone can correct/inform me.

Still, cool looking watch though.

It better be steel for the crown works or it's a big problem.

GR 2 titanium is unusable. Even the caseback threads will get stuck over time.

I wonder if they even know?

[Cabaiguan]

Not sure why they chose G2.

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[Rolextellstime]

Originally Posted by Cabaiguan

Not sure why they chose G2.

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Because it's cheaper...

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[encarter13]

Love the bracelet, but I am not sold on the titanium, faux patina, and price.

[Paul_I]

Omega seems somewhat lost in all the LEs and tie-ins. I love their product when it’s not a gimmick.

[mattmc1973]

Showed my wife a pic of it.
“Oh, I love that!”
“It’s 9 grand.”
“That makes me sad.”

[anonymousmoose]

Originally Posted by Paul_I

Omega seems somewhat lost in all the LEs and tie-ins. I love their product when it’s not a gimmick.

Sure some seem like a gimmick, the Bond LE could be described as such. This one doesn't look like a gimmick, neither do the a lot of Olympic and Space celebration models.

[colpol]

Originally Posted by Dsmith1974

Yeah. All the Bond watches are pretty tacky really. I had the Spectre for a short while but part-ex it in for a Kermit.

Couldn’t get on with the 007 logo on the clasp. Childish really.


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Agree

Least this one doesn’t have 007 on the second hand. Cringeworthy;.)

[anonymousmoose]

Thought:
Could Omega use this Bond watch to test the waters into Rolex pricing territory?

The watch has the vintage Bond Rolex feel, and it's priced at a Submariners level.

Given the Rolex SS sports shortage, Omega could be trying this as an experiment. To lure Rolex customers to Omega given how hard it is to buy a Rolex.

Your thoughts?

[enjoythemusic]

IMHO yes, it seems OMEGA is bringing their prices up (mission creep) to 'raise all boats'. Of course we need to remember that currencies are devaluating and so costs to produce and service are going up. With negative interest rates mentioned by the ECB today, it makes currency worth less (Japanification). At some point a manufacturer needs to 'test the waters' on what consumers are willing to pay. Perhaps OMEGA overshot the target with these $10k 'Submariner' limited edition timepieces?

[Ptawee69]

Not a new born


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[BigBoy17]

Originally Posted by anonymousmoose

Thought:
Could Omega use this Bond watch to test the waters into Rolex pricing territory?

The watch has the vintage Bond Rolex feel, and it's priced at a Submariners level.

Given the Rolex SS sports shortage, Omega could be trying this as an experiment. To lure Rolex customers to Omega given how hard it is to buy a Rolex.

Your thoughts?

With rolex ss models scarce, tudor models also with waitlists, this could be very much viable

[AJMarcus]

Originally Posted by BigBoy17

With rolex ss models scarce, tudor models also with waitlists, this could be very much viable

Agree. I’ve always said Omega benefits the most from Rolex’s inability to meet demand. Once particularly new buyers realize how much quality and variety you get from omega, and how easy they are to acquire at an expansive price point, there may be a whole generation just not enamored with Rolex.

[Spartacus]

I really like it, can’t wait to see it in person. Price is quite steep tho.

[anonymousmoose]

Originally Posted by AJMarcus

Agree. I’ve always said Omega benefits the most from Rolex’s inability to meet demand.

Omega may do yet they have always held its own, even when Rolex sports models were plentiful

[SUPERDOC]

Originally Posted by AJMarcus

Agree. I’ve always said Omega benefits the most from Rolex’s inability to meet demand. Once particularly new buyers realize how much quality and variety you get from omega, and how easy they are to acquire at an expansive price point, there may be a whole generation just not enamored with Rolex.

Yes... but when they see resale value, or compare AD/Boutique prices to Jomashop, there will be a reckoning...

the trouble with playing the 'Veblen' card with Omega and Rolex is that these are middle class 'luxury items'... and the middle class doesn't just buy because it's expensive (that's an 'upper class' thing - see: Richard Mille)..

Middle class consumers need some justification - for example : Utility - "I can track Time zones!", "I can use it to dive!"
or Legacy - "This is something I can leave to my grandchildren!"
- or value Proposition "So much watch for the price compared to [Rolex/AP] plus longer warranty, and antimagnetic!!"...
or for 'investment' - This is selling on chronos24/the forums for more than what I'm paying for it!'


So, just making this watch more expensive won't make it desirable for the thinking consumer - which is the market for Omega and Rolex... the Gluttonous, extravagant consumer who just wants the most expensive wine on the list even if it tastes like shit is a different consumer for a different market - (see: Richard Mille)

[jagwap]

The PO in titanium is far less than the bond, and it has a higher end movement (date and jumping hour) and considerably more metal.

It really is an inflated price.

[Andrews148]

Faux patina lume clashes with modern skeletonised hands.

Needs sword hands and "proper" lume.

[AJMarcus]

The more I look at it the more it looks like a Frankenwatch

[RHIII]

I like it — but agree with the masses—- it’s overpriced. $5k-$6k range — the Seamaster isa contender. At $9k — too many other options for that kind of $$$

[EEpro]

Originally Posted by Cooper33

In real life Bond wouldn't exist



But in real, real life, he would be wearing a G-Shock.

Closest people to him I've met in industry wear the blackout Citizen nighthawk.

[Greg5512]

I love it

[lowmandfl]

Design is awesome, but $9k and it has an aluminum bezel? That seems a little lame for the price.

[mpliskin]

Originally Posted by AJMarcus

Agree. I’ve always said Omega benefits the most from Rolex’s inability to meet demand. Once particularly new buyers realize how much quality and variety you get from omega, and how easy they are to acquire at an expansive price point, there may be a whole generation just not enamored with Rolex.

I agree. Just bought a seamaster, blue dial, TT with TT bracelet instead of TT sub.
Got discount too. Much a better deal and as good if not better quality than the Rolex.

[AJMarcus]

Originally Posted by mpliskin

I agree. Just bought a seamaster, blue dial, TT with TT bracelet instead of TT sub.
Got discount too. Much a better deal and as good if not better quality than the Rolex.

The new Seamaster is a great watch. You get a lotta watch for half the price of a Submariner. Congrats

Pics please...

[Toproll85]

Seen yesterday at the museum.



Not been convinced live

[drjrhc]

I do love what they are trying to do with this watch, I really do.

However, I had the opportunity to get on the waiting list quiet early (for full price deposit, lol), and decided to pass.

For me, it is several things that I just don't like:

1). Grade 2 Titanium. I just don't get why here. Grade 5 at a minimum, and they are still making a tidy profit at the current price point. I dare say they would have charged more with Grade 5, and I would still be much more keen on buying it.

2). Bezel and dial. Just don't pop to me at all. I don't mind the faux patina, not at all. I just am blown away on the aluminum use at this price point.

3). Totally personal here, but I dig the exhibition casebacks on the new SMP line. When people ask me why I am into watches, it helps to show them the work and effort that go into things that are often not very well thought of outside the watch lover's mind.

4). Titanium bracelet. I like it, but I don't. In particular, I do not like that it appears the only adjustments come in the holes in the bracelet. My fear is that I am either gonna have too much room and the watch will "wiggle" on my wrist, or it will wear too tight to eliminate said "wiggle".

5). I would likely sell my black SMP if I got this, and I just can't help but feel it is the better watch. I have it on the 20MM Mesh Ploprof bracelet, and I prefer the look and feel compared to the one offered from "No Time to Die".

So, I am probably gonna pass. I might pick one up on 2nd hand market in a few months, once prices stabilize. If I do, likely would be on NATO at that point, as I think visually it works better with what they were/are trying to do with the piece.

In mean time, will enjoy my current SMP, Spectre and PO offerings.

Cheers!

[Sandpit]

Originally Posted by Toproll85

Seen yesterday at the museum.



Not been convinced live

Hmm. Doesn’t look great in that picture. The lime colour looks very off. I’m also not sure about the fully brushed case. Shame.