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13 February 2018, 07:05 AM | #91 |
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thats good to know. Hope it continues.
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The way grey dealers got inventory is because to be a watch AD from a particular brand. You have to order a minimum amount of watches from the company a year. Theres no way the companies can offload that many watches so they sell to grey dealers at almost cost to get those watches off the books.
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Secondary market will remain but it will help. I support the brand control of inventory as grey watches and discounts hurt value retention. |
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13 February 2018, 07:20 AM | #103 | |
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most blue dials have been boutique only in SS historically, until some of the recent releases which are not, but im not sure most AD's actually get many of them if at all. |
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13 February 2018, 07:22 AM | #105 |
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13 February 2018, 07:24 AM | #106 |
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thats a brand that needs to control discounting. I think the watch objectively is probably worth the retail price. Problem is no one pays it. Value retention is bad because of it. Its my grail.
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13 February 2018, 07:26 AM | #108 |
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I always thought you couldn't get much off a Lange, what sort of discount would you be looking at?
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15 plus a vat refund for a tourist and that is basically the depreciation right there. as thats ballpark of BNIB grey prices. Thats my hesitation. I would be more inclined to buy if everyone paid retail. with that kind of money involved a level playing field makes me less hesitant. I buy from AD's not resellers but with a giant price gap between them, its hard to justify. |
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13 February 2018, 07:32 AM | #110 | |
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I don’t think O&R would do any more than 10%, that would be my max anyway. I agree with Tyler, the very friendly guy at Harrods Lange seemed overly keen to move the conversation on to pricing without me even asking. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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So AP boutiques are owned entirely by AP, unlike Rolex boutiques which are still owned by a third party?
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13 February 2018, 08:12 AM | #113 | |
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AP seems to be doing boutiques, lounges (mini boutique, non traditional store) im assuming for smaller markets with London being the weird exception, and e-commerece which has been announced. All channels are AP controlled. |
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Unless anyone here has Audemars or Piguet as a last name, I have no clue why anyone is taking this personally. It's a watch brand, not even a sports team.
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13 February 2018, 08:18 AM | #116 |
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yeah thats why i mentioned it. I went looking for an AP AD in seattle. To my shock there isnt one.
I keep saying AP isnt big in the US and everyone thinks it is, maybe its just me. Im from the pacific north west kind of, a little further inland, but still i had no clue what AP was until i saw Entourage. Hate to admit, but its true. AD's help people to know what this brand is unless Turtle is going to be a brand ambassador. |
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AP boutique is different than Rolex boutique almost all of the time as far as control/ownership. Thats what i was getting at. Apparently they might get bought out, or so i heard here. |
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The JV ones do not get the boutique exclusives AFAIK (e.g. the 15202), so for all intents and purposes, they are basically ADs that have a "boutique" like setup but aren't actually boutiques. |
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Those are the ones that are the most interesting to see what happens with. They are the in-between retailers. |
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