Tudor Snowflake and Fake Dial Question

[gophishin]

Hi all, first post here, and after a lot of searching and research, I was hoping to get your expert opinion(s).

I came across a Tudor Snowflake Sub, presumably reference 9411/0, that has the wide spaced depth rating text, which is commonly a red flag fake. However, any images I've found with the wide spaced depth rating text, also have very poorly printed "SUBMARINER" text. And this one seems to have submariner text that looks much tighter and more proper than any of the overtly fake dials I've seen. And, it's difficult to tell how centered the "=" is on the "A" from the angle.

I apologize for the lone, terrible picture, I have already contacted the seller for additional photos, and details on serial and ref number as well, since it seems that most of the fakes also just have "9411" and not the "9411/0" stamped.

So, as the general rule goes, if it seems too good to be true, it probably is, I just wanted to try and turn this into an education opportunity and see if this one, with the seemingly good "submariner" text, but with the wide spaced depth rating is just a better fake, or if in fact it's a different dial variant.

Thanks in advance.

[Gina Marie]

Run....

[gman5515]

Originally Posted by Gina Marie

Run....

agreed. The hands are also incorrect.

[harry in montreal]

Really bad. Did you read orchi’s sticky on spotting fake shield subs?

[05carbondrz]

One of the worst fakes I’ve seen in awhile.That’s the sad part about Snowflakes,Too many fakes floating around.

[gophishin]

Originally Posted by harry in montreal

Really bad. Did you read orchi’s sticky on spotting fake shield subs?

Thank you for the replies. I did read Orchi's guide, which is why the depth rating and "=" over the "A" stood out. However, most of the images in that thread of the fake dials are expired links and the images I could find of fake dials also have text/font that is easy to spot as well.

In the example photos of fakes typically used, the submariner text is typically very poor and in a different font, where this one is not widely spaced and look much different than those.

So, I kind of figured even if this serves as another reference for fake spotting, it will maybe the help the next person that comes along, since there weren't very many images of identified fake dials.

And in the vein of helping and learning, what is it about the hands to look for? I've heard the seconds hand on the fakes will have the block too close to the end, but it's not clear on this particular image.

Thanks again