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Sweramic · 25 October 2010, 05:07 AM

Hope you all have had a great weekend! Today, I went up into the mountains in the North of Sweden together with my sister, my grandpa and his fiancé. My grandpa knew one of the Sápmis and she invited us to watch when they were going to sort all the village's raindeers. We arrived just before they were about to start sorting and I took several pictures of it

. There were almost 2,000 raindeers in the inclosure

Please enjoy the little trip!

It was a cloudy day, with some snow falling. This place is about 100 kilometers from the Norwegian border, and about 200 kilometers from where I live.

A very old snowmobile.

This is where they hang up killed raindeers. Didn't happen today though.. Instead, the choosen animals were shipped to a slaughterhouse elsewhere.

An elderly man.

Could this be his walker? It felt misplaced here!

Here are all the raindeers. They were running around in circles and looked very stressed/freightened. The sound they did was very weird, too. The Sápmi woman said it was their "baby sound" or something.'

Of course, I brought my GMT IIc with me

They portioned out about 30-40 raindeers at a time into a smaller inclosure, were they sorted out each raindeer to its owner (and every owner had yet another inclosure with an exit from the sorting spot were his raindeers were). The raindeers had different necklaces or marks in the ears depending on who owned it.

The grabbed the raindeers by the horns and then put them to the ground.

Check this one out. He looked out of his mind!

This is me! We stood outside the smaller inclosure.

Trying to take a nice wristshot.

Even young children were there watching. I think they find this very interesting!

And so did older men and woman.

Each owner had someone count every raindeer.

Some of the raindeers didn't have an owner and had probably joined the big herd during summer pasture. In that case, these animals were auctioned out and three auctions occured while we were there. The cost for one animal was about 2,400 Swedish crowns (about $360). This one was one of the three:

Hello there kiddo.

The old man made sure everything went smooth.

Raindeers which was due to transport had their horns removed to make sure that they didn't pierce eachother in the van.

The last raindeer was removed.

Then they sent in some more!

Where the F*CK are we?

Can you spot the house?

On our way back to civilization!

Home sweet home

Nice wristshot to end the trip. Hope you enjoyed!

//C

gettocard · 25 October 2010, 05:10 AM

Oh boy....the sky,the snow,the cold,the watch.....perfect man,thanks for sharing !!!!

HL65 · 25 October 2010, 05:11 AM

Great shots!! thanks for sharing!!

nauticajoe · 25 October 2010, 05:30 AM

Great pics!

Thanks for sharing.

Jocke · 25 October 2010, 05:33 AM

Great pics Carl.

PHDX2 · 25 October 2010, 05:33 AM

Wow!

TSW · 25 October 2010, 06:33 AM

Great Carl

Norway · 25 October 2010, 06:40 AM

Thanks for sharing Carl. Loved the pics!

Watch Professor · 25 October 2010, 06:41 AM

Great adventure. Thanks for sharing.

DJM · 25 October 2010, 07:19 AM

Cool report! :-)

Where is it? Arjeplog or somewhere near?

jonathon555 · 25 October 2010, 07:22 AM

Do they then eat the reindeer ?

rfknauss · 25 October 2010, 07:23 AM

Carl, fab pics ...... great adventure!

Sweramic · 25 October 2010, 07:42 AM

Thanks everyone

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonathon555

Do they then eat the reindeer ?

I believe they eat some of it, but a lot is sold to other "hands".

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJM

Cool report! :-)

Where is it? Arjeplog or somewhere near?

Thank you! It is very close to Valsjöbyn if you know where that is

GreenTechGuy · 25 October 2010, 07:53 AM

Never seen reindeers raised like cattle. Cant help but think of poor rudolf ...lol

Speed · 25 October 2010, 07:59 AM

Am I the only one who finds this thread mildly disturbing?

Im not a Vegan or animal rights activist, but this photo essay had an ominous subtext. :-/

GreenTechGuy · 25 October 2010, 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Speed

Am I the only one who finds this thread mildly disturbing?

Im not a Vegan or animal rights activist, but this photo essay had an ominous subtext. :-/

No your not the only one. i guess its not much different than cattle but for some reason it just seems kinda wrong.

Sweramic · 25 October 2010, 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GreenTechGuy

No your not the only one. i guess its not much different than cattle but for some reason it just seems kinda wrong.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Speed

Am I the only one who finds this thread mildly disturbing?

Im not a Vegan or animal rights activist, but this photo essay had an ominous subtext. :-/

I understand what you mean guys! But this is real life for all the aboriginals in Sweden, and they have been doing this for several centuries. I can insure you that the animals are taken care of; given medicine and the people make sure to calm the animals by laying them down and putting a finger in their mouth, for them to suck on.

Sweramic · 25 October 2010, 08:32 AM

Oh, and Bill and GreenTechGuy, sorry if I made you feel disturbed!

MoosicPa · 25 October 2010, 08:39 AM

I had read somewhere that the reindeer in northern Scandinavia were rendered inedible following the Chernobyl incident back in the 1980's?

Jocke · 25 October 2010, 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Speed

Am I the only one who finds this thread mildly disturbing?

Im not a Vegan or animal rights activist, but this photo essay had an ominous subtext. :-/

Bill that is how it works, I guess it's not better if it looks like this.

Jocke · 25 October 2010, 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MoosicPa

I had read somewhere that the reindeer in northern Scandinavia were rendered inedible following the Chernobyl incident back in the 1980's?

That is the reason why we export them.

GreenTechGuy · 25 October 2010, 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dreambaby

I understand what you mean guys! But this is real life for all the aboriginals in Sweden, and they have been doing this for several centuries. I can insure you that the animals are taken care of; given medicine and the people make sure to calm the animals by laying them down and putting a finger in their mouth, for them to suck on.

I understand its part of the culture and its really no different than us raising cattle here. We do not have reindeer here and the only time we think of reindeer really is the ones that pull Santas sleigh...lol...so yea eating Rudolf is a bit unusual but understandable. My dad hunts whitetail deer and we eat them, thats normal to me though.

No worries...i am much more disturbed about many other things than people eating reindeer

JJ Irani · 25 October 2010, 08:44 AM

Excellent pictures, thanks for sharing.

JJ

Sweramic · 25 October 2010, 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GreenTechGuy

I understand its part of the culture and its really no different than us raising cattle here. We do not have reindeer here and the only time we think of reindeer really is the ones that pull Santas sleigh...lol...so yea eating Rudolf is a bit unusual but understandable. My dad hunts whitetail deer and we eat them, thats normal to me though.

No worries...i am much more disturbed about many other things than people eating reindeer

Cultural differences can surely be hard to cope with sometimes!

Jede · 25 October 2010, 09:17 AM

Kind of an every day sight for me.. Located in Finnish Lapland, just above the Arctic Circle :)

And yes, we also eat reindeer here. And it's damn good meat, quite similar to deer and elk. So it has been for centuries, and I bet it's closest to ecological farming you can get in these conditions.

DJM · 25 October 2010, 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dreambaby

Thank you! It is very close to Valsjöbyn if you know where that is

Ah.. I see.. But 10 km, not 100 km from the border then ;-)

Sweramic · 25 October 2010, 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJM

Ah.. I see.. But 10 km, not 100 km from the border then ;-)

Oh, you're correct! Made aome mistakes in my text.. Even wrote reindeer with an "a" everywhere!

Singslinger · 25 October 2010, 10:04 AM

Great pictures Carl, thanks for sharing!

PS Your grandfather has a fiancee? Good for him!

Watchdog · 25 October 2010, 10:16 AM

Really, really interesting images/story.

Thanks for sharing.

theloxmyth · 25 October 2010, 10:27 AM

Great pics, but where's your face?!

25 October 2010, 05:07 AM	#1
Sweramic "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Europe Watch: Movies Posts: 4,531	Rolex trip to a Sápmi village in Sweden Hope you all have had a great weekend! Today, I went up into the mountains in the North of Sweden together with my sister, my grandpa and his fiancé. My grandpa knew one of the Sápmis and she invited us to watch when they were going to sort all the village's raindeers. We arrived just before they were about to start sorting and I took several pictures of it . There were almost 2,000 raindeers in the inclosure Please enjoy the little trip! It was a cloudy day, with some snow falling. This place is about 100 kilometers from the Norwegian border, and about 200 kilometers from where I live. A very old snowmobile. This is where they hang up killed raindeers. Didn't happen today though.. Instead, the choosen animals were shipped to a slaughterhouse elsewhere. An elderly man. Could this be his walker? It felt misplaced here! Here are all the raindeers. They were running around in circles and looked very stressed/freightened. The sound they did was very weird, too. The Sápmi woman said it was their "baby sound" or something.' Of course, I brought my GMT IIc with me They portioned out about 30-40 raindeers at a time into a smaller inclosure, were they sorted out each raindeer to its owner (and every owner had yet another inclosure with an exit from the sorting spot were his raindeers were). The raindeers had different necklaces or marks in the ears depending on who owned it. The grabbed the raindeers by the horns and then put them to the ground. Check this one out. He looked out of his mind! This is me! We stood outside the smaller inclosure. Trying to take a nice wristshot. Even young children were there watching. I think they find this very interesting! And so did older men and woman. Each owner had someone count every raindeer. Some of the raindeers didn't have an owner and had probably joined the big herd during summer pasture. In that case, these animals were auctioned out and three auctions occured while we were there. The cost for one animal was about 2,400 Swedish crowns (about $360). This one was one of the three: Hello there kiddo. The old man made sure everything went smooth. Raindeers which was due to transport had their horns removed to make sure that they didn't pierce eachother in the van. The last raindeer was removed. Then they sent in some more! Where the F*CK are we? Can you spot the house? On our way back to civilization! Home sweet home Nice wristshot to end the trip. Hope you enjoyed! //C

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Jede "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Real Name: Jesse Location: Finland Watch: 14060M Posts: 67	Kind of an every day sight for me.. Located in Finnish Lapland, just above the Arctic Circle :) And yes, we also eat reindeer here. And it's damn good meat, quite similar to deer and elk. So it has been for centuries, and I bet it's closest to ecological farming you can get in these conditions.

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