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Old 23 March 2015, 02:14 PM   #121
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Omega is trying too hard to be Rolex. That is why I like their vintage watches better.

I would have a Speedy over a Daytona. I would have a vintage Connie or De Ville over a vintage DJ. Omega was just way cooler in the 60's.
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Old 23 March 2015, 03:00 PM   #122
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This is just one example of many... This watch is roughly $7,500 brand new...then you walk out of the AD to this...terrible. This is why people ask, "Why didn't you buy a Rolex?"
You missed the entire point of my post. You have fun buying from a boutique and I'll buy from a trusted seller or LNIB at the depreciated price or close to it.
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Old 23 March 2015, 03:08 PM   #123
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Why not get both?

I have both Rolex and Omega and love both brands equally.
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Old 23 March 2015, 03:15 PM   #124
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You missed the entire point of my post. You have fun buying from a boutique and I'll buy from a trusted seller or LNIB at the depreciated price or close to it.
Ref my 'buy SMART' Swaggy post.
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Old 23 March 2015, 03:24 PM   #125
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You missed the entire point of my post. You have fun buying from a boutique and I'll buy from a trusted seller or LNIB at the depreciated price or close to it.
Buying watches at this level, I deal with AD's, not "trusted sellers"... Guys will do anything to shave a few bucks. If you have to do that to get a luxury timepiece, maybe you can't truly afford one yet...
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Old 23 March 2015, 03:34 PM   #126
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Seems like a rather silly thing to say.. My first two decent watches were Rolex's, but my third was a Speedmaster Pro Sapphire Sandwich... I love it to bits.

Buy what you like - nothing wrong with the right Omega even if they are considered 'beneath' Rolex.

The same could be said for 'why buy Rolex if you can afford Patek'... Plenty of reasons to buy one instead of a Patek.
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Old 23 March 2015, 03:37 PM   #127
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I like Omega, but I ask myself the same question when I go to buy one. I looked at a Speedmaster and bought a Daytona, I looked at a Seamaster Planet Ocean and bought a SubLV.
I actually bought my Daytona first, but still bought a speedy. I actually prefer it as a daily wear, and it's certainly a lot more legible.

The Daytona is 'better' I suppose, but I reckon the Speedy makes a much better all round daily 'beater'.

You only know which is better (for you) after wearing for a while.. Truth be told I actually like wearing my Sub more than my daytona. There's just something about it, so usable..
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Old 23 March 2015, 03:50 PM   #128
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James Bond always wore a rolex as did the author Ian Fleming, the original rolex was an Explorer 1, in fact off screen the current Bond Daniel Craig wears a rolex NOT an omega!!!!
I never really understood the allure of this... It's just product placement.

He is only a fictional character ya'know.......

And Bond wore a Seiko in "A view to a Kill".....
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Old 23 March 2015, 03:56 PM   #129
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I never really understood the allure of this... It's just product placement.

He is only a fictional character ya'know.......

And Bond wore a Seiko in "A view to a Kill".....
what do you think about the americans who choose to wear Rolex to the moon although Omega was the "approved" watch?
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Old 23 March 2015, 04:05 PM   #130
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what do you think about the americans who choose to wear Rolex to the moon although Omega was the "approved" watch?
I think we think a lot more about it now than they did back then....
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Old 23 March 2015, 04:33 PM   #131
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the only Omega I like is the classic speedy. I like how it has remained true to the original design for 50 years. The limited editions every 6 months blah blah blah......


My brand new speedy is off for warranty service for running 37s/d slow. Even though it is not a COSC watch I would at least expect some basic QC before it leaves the factory.

Ummm....you can walk into an Omega boutique and they will regulate it right there in front of you.
Will Rolex do this?
How long would that take?


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Get what you want to look at the next decade or two. To me there really is no choice because blah blah blah....

especially can't stand nearly 50 years of bragging about being the moon watch when at least two Speedys failed on Apollo lunar missions. They use a more complex movement that has not proven more accurate, or more reliable, or needs less maintenance, and is limited in where it can be serviced. ....

I'm just kidding. Get what you like best (although everything I said is true).


Ummm...how many Rolex watches went to the moon?


Limited where it can be serviced? Like it matters to you which state the watch goes? Are you hand delivering the watch or mailing it just like you would a Rolex to an to a RSC?













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I can afford Rolex and I own many of them. I also own many Omega pieces, and they are awesome - even thought I can afford Rolex. Guess what, I can afford a Daytona, yet my only chrono is a Speedmaster. Why, because I like it more.

Just because you can afford something doesn't mean there are not better, or less expensive alternatives. I can afford a Ferrari - but I don't have one because it would not be a prudent way to spend my money nor do I believe that it is $140,000 better than a Porsche 911. In that same vein, maybe some don't feel that a Sub is $4,000 better than a Planet Ocean.....and guess what, it is not. I own both and love both, but my PO was half the cost with nearly all the quality.

Omega makes a GREAT product and is a company with significant history in horology. Most people on this earth could only dream of owing an Omega timepiece and your friend is going to make you ponder such an acquisition because it is not a Rolex. Oy freakin' vay. Rolex is great, Omega is great, simple as that. Buy what you want and what you like - guess all of us who can afford Patek should be ashamed of buying a Rolex.....
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Old 23 March 2015, 05:16 PM   #132
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Ummm....you can walk into an Omega boutique and
Ummm...how many Rolex watches went to the moon?

more than you think, and some of them still work.


http://rolexblog.blogspot.com/2008/0...iii-story.html

http://rolexblog.blogspot.com/2009/1...auctioned.html
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Old 23 March 2015, 05:38 PM   #133
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Now, THAT's a beautiful blue dial. Love the "pie pan" design. IMO, it has a little more flair and is more unique looking compared to the blue Rolex DJs and OPs.
The new Globemaster in blue is a winner in my eyes. Wonder what the RRP will be when it's available.
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Old 23 March 2015, 05:44 PM   #134
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Buying watches at this level, I deal with AD's, not "trusted sellers"... Guys will do anything to shave a few bucks. If you have to do that to get a luxury timepiece, maybe you can't truly afford one yet...
I am not sure as to whether this is a 'trolling' comment or not......

People who have money generally know how not to waste it paying full price for items they have no need too........
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Old 23 March 2015, 05:57 PM   #135
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I am not sure as to whether this is a 'trolling' comment or not......

People who have money generally know how not to waste it paying full price for items they have no need too........
You beat me to it. Most people who have loadsamoney have it for a reason and usually that involves not being stupid.
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Old 23 March 2015, 06:40 PM   #136
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Buying watches at this level, I deal with AD's, not "trusted sellers"... Guys will do anything to shave a few bucks. If you have to do that to get a luxury timepiece, maybe you can't truly afford one yet...
If you are happy to take maximum depreciation on your purchases go right ahead.
You are the buyer.
Once I decide on an item I shoot for the beat deal I can get.

Am I in the minority?
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Old 23 March 2015, 07:53 PM   #137
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If you are happy to take maximum depreciation on your purchases go right ahead.
You are the buyer.
Once I decide on an item I shoot for the beat deal I can get.

Am I in the minority?


No...not here.

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Old 23 March 2015, 09:00 PM   #138
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I sold my Bi-Metalic Sub when I noticed that every man and his dog was wearing either a genuine or fake one. A bit like Apple, if everyone tells you that you need an Iphone you will always get a queue of Sheep lining up to get one and don't listen to anyone that says Rolex is a good investment! If you buy anything at the wrong price you will always loose big time!!
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Old 23 March 2015, 09:28 PM   #139
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If you are happy to take maximum depreciation on your purchases go right ahead.
You are the buyer.
Once I decide on an item I shoot for the beat deal I can get.

Am I in the minority?
Nope. Teach a man to go to an ADs and he buys a nice Rolex, teach a man to buy smart and buys a nice collection.
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Old 23 March 2015, 09:46 PM   #140
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The new Globemaster in blue is a winner in my eyes. Wonder what the RRP will be when it's available.
Off topic. Here:
"Prices for the stainless steel model start at CHF 6.300 Swiss Francs"
http://www.fratellowatches.com/omega-globemaster/

And then OPs question. Like said here many times. Buy the one that speaks to you. I have 5 modern Omegas and several vintage ones.
The reason I don`t (yet) have a Rolex is simple. There are very few models that speaks to me. DJII and GMT master are only ones currently and sooner or later one or both of them will find they way to me.
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Old 23 March 2015, 09:52 PM   #141
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I offer as well the best value for the money in meteorite dial watches as well as the one that makes the most sense for the material. It would be a shame to refuse to buy this because it's "only an Omega"...

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Old 25 March 2015, 12:31 PM   #142
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negative.

The GMT may have been worn but UNDER his space suit, NOT on the surface of the suit. All the pics of the GMT rolex were on the rolex bracelet, and under the spacesuit.


The Omega used quite a large strap, the SEB12100030, so the watch would fit.



The Omega speedmaster was the ONLY FLIGHT QUALIFIED watch by NASA, not rolex, not longines,
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Old 25 March 2015, 12:41 PM   #143
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So you can be pretentious enough to start a thread like this?
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Old 25 March 2015, 01:21 PM   #144
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Omega is trying too hard to be Rolex. That is why I like their vintage watches better.
Disagree. Omega is doing it's own thing.

Omega is focusing on anti-magnetic movements and it's own certification process. Rolex is not.

Omega is focusing on ceramics. Rolex is not.

Omega is coming out with vintage-inspired models. Rolex is not.

Whether you think any of these things are positive or not, I don't think you can say that Omega is trying to be Rolex. Trying to compete with Rolex? Yes. Trying to be Rolex? Hell no!

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Old 25 March 2015, 01:38 PM   #145
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because omega is becoming rolex and rolex is becoming omega

case in point rolex black bezel and rubberb
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Old 25 March 2015, 08:10 PM   #146
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This isn't becoming a ticking contest.....is it?

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Old 25 March 2015, 08:52 PM   #147
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Disagree. Omega is doing it's own thing.



Omega is focusing on anti-magnetic movements and it's own certification process. Rolex is not.



Omega is focusing on ceramics. Rolex is not.



Omega is coming out with vintage-inspired models. Rolex is not.



Whether you think any of these things are positive or not, I don't think you can say that Omega is trying to be Rolex. Trying to compete with Rolex? Yes. Trying to be Rolex? Hell no!



James Bond was famous for wearing a Rolex. Now omega sponsors James Bond, right down to the Dr No nato strap they just introduced.

Omega is trying to be Rolex in the way that Hublot is trying to be AP. They are trying to to be Rolex in the way that Tudor is trying to be Omega. They are trying to position themselves to compete in the same market at the same price points.

Rolex is doing work in anti-magnetism. It's not their end-all because they already have reliable, in-house movements. Rolex is about evolution, not revolution.

Rolex is not focusing on ceramics? Really? I guess coco Chanel is the big innovator in that space.

I think you could say nearly every Rolex model is vintage inspired. How about the Orange hand Explorer II or the no date sub?


Omega is reacting to everything that Rolex does, and Rolex barely acknowledges that Omega exists. That's just how it is.

I have 2 omegas and 1 Rolex, so that's not just some hater opinion.
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Old 25 March 2015, 09:04 PM   #148
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Looking at the watches, I don't get the impression that either brand is trying to copy the other in any way. Styling is, by and large, totally different. Omega uses mostly display backs now and has a decorated movement; Rolex largely doesn't. Omega is focusing on fully ceramic cases; Rolex doesn't make them. Omega is focusing on antimagnetic tech and coaxial escapements; Rolex is not. Omega releases new models at a relatively fast pace; Rolex is glacial by comparison. Omega likes commemorating events with limited editions; Rolex does not. Omega mixes vintage inspired designs with the totally new; Rolex focuses on refining the same vintage designs it's used for decades.

Aside from their incidentally being the two biggest names in luxury watches, why are people trying so hard to see these brands in terms of each other?
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Old 26 March 2015, 01:19 AM   #149
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These Omega vs Rolex threads drive me nuts sometimes.

Anyone who just makes a blanket statement along the lines of "dude just buy a Rollie" is a tool and knows nothing of watches.

They are also the same people that tend to give the proud, informed members of this community a bad name.

My advice is get the Omega if it's what you like and a new friend as well.
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Old 26 March 2015, 01:22 AM   #150
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Buying watches at this level, I deal with AD's, not "trusted sellers"... Guys will do anything to shave a few bucks. If you have to do that to get a luxury timepiece, maybe you can't truly afford one yet...
If you think of Omega and Rolex as "luxury timepieces" you can't afford a luxury timepiece.







See, I can be pretentious, too.
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